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On June 01 2005 13:35 StarN wrote: silly american school system... it should be more like korea where the teachers beat the kids without even thinking twice about it.
you acutally want / like that system???
the bus driver went to far he should have waited for the deputy to come and then it would have been over with.
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I think the fact that the busdriver, after being punched multiple-times, by not fighting back, shows that his intentions for restraining the kids were not just acts of aggravation.
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rofl this discipline shit was so wack.. even though these kids were only 14 or so.. i was expecting something far more serious for the bus driver to get up and hit them. In brooklyn this shit would be laughed at.. the fucking bus driver would laugh at being called a "fucker" and probably call them it back.. I've seen adults get fucked up for downtalking kids before.. this vid was so.. weak
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K just watched it, and that busdriver has probably got sued for all his money. You guys say that's right? lol grow up, you have to deal with shit like that, hes the adult there just because they are annoying him and shit doesn't give him the right to do that. Just ignore those little hell demons.
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On June 01 2005 15:30 InSideOut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2005 13:35 StarN wrote: silly american school system... it should be more like korea where the teachers beat the kids without even thinking twice about it. you acutally want / like that system??? the bus driver went to far he should have waited for the deputy to come and then it would have been over with.
Can you seriously tell me Korean kids aren't 100x more respectful than American kids with a straight face?
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On June 01 2005 14:34 Eniram wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2005 14:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote: something you guys arent taking into consideration is this took place in Florida, they do things differently down there. When a punk 15 year old kid is acting like a faggot to a Bus driver, wearing his uniform probably been doing the job for like 45 years and its a hot florida day, he isnt going to take shit.
Blatantly disrespecting a 66 year old professionally attired bus driver in the Florida hear with no regard for his pleas to obide the law can result in a slap, big deal? dont think so. Um excuse me, but who are you to say how Floridians act? EDIT: Wait, aren't you from Florida? Still, its not good to just define a whole group of people like that.
I think your trying to say i generalized an entire states behavior, when in fact my quote is extremely vague and indirect, i never say anything that can be pinned as "generalization" because all i said was "they do things differently down there" that is so vague i love it. Do what differently? Down where? What am i even talking about? = direct verbal refutation.
HOWEVER what i intended to say was that they handle discipline differently GENERALLY than say a northern parenting couple from Beaverton Oregon. In florida its more typical to find a parent or adult who figures if a kid is being a jack ass he will get hurt. Is this 100%? Of course not, is this a rule? Of course not. Is it possible t find this ANYWHERE ELSE? of Course it is. Im making a comment on a stereotypical belief that is generally true. You also tried to hit my credibility, im not going to engage in a "i know more" battle because of "X" amount of time spent in a place or "X" amount of experience but i am fully qualified to speak on what i have realized to be true through EXPERIENCE.
/end incdomination
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On June 01 2005 15:54 randomKo_Orean wrote: WTF
no fuckign respects, these fucking parents from US are bunch of dipshits. They'll defend the kids by saying it's my kid, and you suck or something.
only in america...
shit, who the fuck tells the 50year + senior to let them off the bus with attitude. I'da fucking killed them or something... And the little kids shoulda been charged and beaten up, not the bus driver.
"These boys are the victims and they have been from day one," Kirshy said. "The fact they got arrested was a mistake. That's clear."
BULLSHIT No, i'm sure things similar to this happens in everyother country.
BTW, what in god's name are you talking about {88}iNcontroL.
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little arrogant this kids have learned nothing yet about respect and if he doesntsoon hes gonna get his ass beaten hardcore at secondary school
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This is a fucking kids bus driver, if you cant handle kids dont drive a bus full of them MORON!!!
Yeah the kids are obnoxious and probably deserved to be slapped but you live in a sue-happy country, its silly to do that, just fucking show the tape to the school and they will get expelled that will hurt 10 more than the slap he gave to the prick.
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He should have beaten the fuck out of that little shit.
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On June 01 2005 11:23 Tien wrote: I fully endorse this type of violence.
I hate those prepubescent kids. Agreed, although Control's post reflects my own thoughts better.
Anyone who says "that's wrong, they don't know any better" is going to be one shitty parent.
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On June 01 2005 13:37 Tien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2005 13:24 WildCard wrote: rofl that kid was a fucking pussy tho, when that bus driver turned around he shuolda just fucked him up so bad Internet warrior. Im sure at the tender age of 13, the age when you are growing your pubic hairs, you were able to take on adults that weighed 100+ pounds more than you were. I remember reading somewhere here that people's balls get 10x bigger behind a computer screen.
And I'll never stop saying it until it proves untrue.
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Let me know when you'll shake the hand of a bus driver for hitting your kid Zia.
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On June 01 2005 17:13 imRadu wrote: Let me know when you'll shake the hand of a bus driver for hitting your kid Zia.
My kid? Any child I have will grow up with a brain and discipline so he can be ahead of the children his age, something my parents never did for me. I was a brat growing up. When I look back, I really really wish I could just go back in time and cause myself as much pain as I knew I was causing others. I'm not even slightly worried about any child I have acting up at that age. But if he/she pulls the same shit those kids in the video did, and the bus driver takes action, the only thing I could possibly do is tell him/her "You'd better be glad I wasn't there when it happened."
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On June 01 2005 11:30 taeWook wrote: the bus driver didnt hit them first. the kid wouldnt calm down, he cussed at the driver, and challenged the driver. imo, when a kid does that to you, and talking wont settle him down, you have to use some force. of course this goes back to the issue of child abuse, but i wont go there. yes, otherwise the kids grow up and think that they can do what ever they want. They really need to get slapped sometimes. Im glad that I did get slapped sometimes!
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Everyone supporting the kids needs to get a fucking clue. Who gives a shit if they got a little bruise from the bus driver? Do you realize how much hell they're going to cause to other people if they're allowed to abuse other people without consequences?
And do you honestly think the deputy was going to teach them a lesson? Or the school board? Do you really think the kids are afraid of being suspended or expelled? Do you really think their parents will care enough to make a difference? The next time they feel like pissing other people off, are they going to restrain themselves out of fear of punishment, because of what the deputy, school board, or their parents did to them (if they did anything at all)? Hah, yeah right.
At that age, there's only 3 things that are going to prevent those kids from misbehaving: empathy, conscience, and/or fear of punishment. Obviously no realistic action is going to teach them empathy or develop their conscience (who would make the effort to do it, if it's even possible at this age?), so the only option left is to leave them in fear of the consequences. And taking action the way the bus driver did is the only way to instill that fear.
Remember, a LOT of people will be impacted by these kids as they grow up. Raising a little shit into the world will cause hell to a lot of other people, and may even cost some people their lives (e.g. drunk driving). For the good of the people that those kids will interact with in the future, I say they need to be punished, in a way that will make them afraid of screwing up in the future. Unfortunately, our pussy laws prevent this from being done effectively, but at least the bus driver gave it his best shot (without using excessive force) and may have left a lasting impression.
These kids NEED to be traumatized: they need to fear the consequences of pissing other people off. At their age, it's the only way they'll learn.
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It's still a matter between you and your kid and not the driver and your kid and you know it zia  I am not questioning your parental skills, i question your reply where you say
Anyone who says "that's wrong, they don't know any better" is going to be one shitty parent.
because it's obvious that you support the driver's actions. Bus driver drives the bus and you are the one who educates your kid after seeing the video mkay?
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Nevermind, Bill put my brain into text.
And I didn't need to see the video in order to understand why I need to educate my kid.
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The fact that the kids might be irresponsible little brats that will grow up to be assholes, is irrelevant. Its not the bus drivers job to discipline the kids. That's up to the parents after they've been notified of the happening and shown the tape.
He should take them off the bus, but only if they interfere with his ability to perform his duty.
The bus driver has no authority in any matter that isn't related to safety of the kids, and in the case of emergency.
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