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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
March 11 2015 14:18 GMT
#11941
Congratulations Enjoy the sweet dating life :p
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
March 11 2015 19:40 GMT
#11942
Rather bleak at the moment. For the second time this year, a girl told me she doesn't want to see me any more because I'm going abroad in fall and said that I wouldn't do long distance.

I understand that they don't want to be involved with someone when the relationship is basically on a clock, but then again, I don't want to be single until September...

What's worse, the next two years won't be any different because no American / English girl will want to get seriously involved with someone who's leaving their continent / country in the foreseable future. Add to that the handicap of being German (in the US) and being European (in England) and my forecast says 30 lonely months.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44327 Posts
March 11 2015 21:12 GMT
#11943
On March 12 2015 04:40 SixStrings wrote:
Rather bleak at the moment. For the second time this year, a girl told me she doesn't want to see me any more because I'm going abroad in fall and said that I wouldn't do long distance.

I understand that they don't want to be involved with someone when the relationship is basically on a clock, but then again, I don't want to be single until September...

What's worse, the next two years won't be any different because no American / English girl will want to get seriously involved with someone who's leaving their continent / country in the foreseable future. Add to that the handicap of being German (in the US) and being European (in England) and my forecast says 30 lonely months.


That's too bad Long distance relationships are incredibly difficult, especially if there's an entire ocean in between you and her. Just be happy that they're being honest and upfront with you, rather than stringing you along and cheating on you while you're away!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
March 11 2015 21:17 GMT
#11944
I'm not looking for a long distance relationship, I want someone to be with until I move. I know that's selfish, but who I certainly don't want to be single for the next two and a half years.
iVolty
Profile Joined March 2015
United States21 Posts
March 11 2015 21:22 GMT
#11945
My situation at the moment kind of .... sucks for lack of better words. I currently have no job because its been unbelievable trying to get one for various reasons. No car and no real way to contact anyone anymore since my phone has just broken beyond repair. I've tried to date but it never lasts long due to the fact that I really can't do much of anything. So to say my dating luck has not been the best in the last few years haha.
"Does it matter if I put this in my jug or not? Get it? Jug or not?"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44327 Posts
March 11 2015 21:26 GMT
#11946
On March 12 2015 06:17 SixStrings wrote:
I'm not looking for a long distance relationship, I want someone to be with until I move. I know that's selfish, but who I certainly don't want to be single for the next two and a half years.


Yeah I get it. It's an odd middle ground for someone... to try and be in a relationship that you know is destined to end soon. Wanting more than just random hookups but knowing that you can't be in it for the long run; it's a weird level of commitment to ask of someone, but it's your situation and it's unfortunate. I don't envy you
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 12 2015 02:45 GMT
#11947
On March 11 2015 18:15 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 16:27 chaos22 wrote:
Long time lurker but I feel I need to get something off my chest. it all started over four years ago I meant a women on a website called pof. At the time she was knocked up and having a baby. While her past relationships have been really tough on her. I got to know her and we even went on a few dates. Her son was born and over time I got to know him (I was a little scared being a nerd and all I didn't know how to act towards someone else's kid).

Last year this women and I went camping for 10 days with her whole family, that may of been one of the highlights of my life. After three years I figured maybe it was time to ask her out. She then had a melt down and didn't talk to me for 3 months. iv always let her re enter my life. After 4 years of holding hands once and her 4 friends with benefits later. Our first time having sex I just found out I am going to be daddy. she told me that a week before I went and saw her she slept with someone else. unsure of what to think of this women and my future with her. she says she is going to have my baby and after 4 years of interesting history, am unsure if I can ever date her or marry her the pain that iv been put through has been rather rough.

This kid didn't have anything to do with what she or I have done. so am going to stand in front of this shit fan and see how it turns out. I won't turn my back on my kid. I just wish her and I would of worked out differently.


That story sounds a lot like a trap baby. Meaning she got pregnant by one of these other 'friends' but there is no way she want's them to be the father. Not sure how benefits work in Canada but the timing sounds close to when her benefits (for being pregnant/a new mother) would lapse also.

It's a reasonably common technique in the US to maintain government support. The woman usually has social issues (often stemming from childhood abuse) that prevent her from forming a 'normal' relationship so they float from one asshole to another keeping a 'good' guy on the line. When the benefits are about to run out they go and get pregnant from whoever they can (or whichever preferred genetic donor they can lure in) then randomly sleep with the good guy and tell him it's his kid.

From that point they can't really lose. Many 'good' guys just presume it's theirs (the woman usually doesn't openly admit to sleeping with someone else so close) and take the responsibilities. Some 'good' guys know it's probably not theirs and they take care of it anyway. Both groups usually try to work out a relationship with the mom but without help/counseling their is usually not a lot of hope.

The other option is getting it tested, which I would do unless you are absolutely sure you want to take care of this child regardless. Which would mean a lot of legal bullshit (not exactly sure how much in Canada).

If it's not yours I say get as far away as possible. Change you number shut down facebook whatever you have to do to keep her from contacting you.

If it is your kid (you've had it tested or decided you don't care who got her pregnant) you should fight for parental rights. That kid will need you if it is going to have a chance. Chances are she won't want you around for anything more than to be her manservant so a relationship has almost 0 chance of working.

If you decide you have to try to make it work, get help/counseling. It's not going to happen without it, you'll just be torturing yourself and setting the kid up to grow up in a negative household. imo.

TLDR: Get the kid paternity tested, decide what you would do with either result. If you pick trying to 'make it work' you will need at least semi-professional help


Get the kid partenity test 100%.

Don't try to "make it work" if you are not the father run away, if you are take responsability but do not pursue a relationship with what seems to be a massive slut (sorry) and brutally unstable woman. Not worth it.

In general never ever let a woman boss you around or disrespect you repeteadly.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 12 2015 03:30 GMT
#11948
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 03:46:53
March 12 2015 03:46 GMT
#11949
On March 12 2015 12:30 Najda wrote:
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?


Try to setup something else and if she says no again and doesn't seem to be trying to get a working timeframe for another date then just forget about her. She could be telling the truth afterall.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
March 12 2015 04:14 GMT
#11950
On March 12 2015 06:17 SixStrings wrote:
I'm not looking for a long distance relationship, I want someone to be with until I move. I know that's selfish, but who I certainly don't want to be single for the next two and a half years.


Why do you need a relationship anyway. Why aren't you happy with yourself. I know being in a relationship is cool, however, when you are in one you can/can't do certain things, and when you are single you can/can't do other certain things. What I mean with that is, why don't you just see the situation you are right now and what you'll be in the future, and instead of trying to "figh it" so to speak, you try to just get what you can from it.

If you absolutely need to be in a relationship, depending on your age, there may be girls that would accep traveling with you, but they aren't common, and seing your post history on this thread, i don't think that's something you'd want yourself.



On March 12 2015 12:30 Najda wrote:
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?


It's to early to judge in my opinion. i usually trust what people say at first, and the fact that after the first date she was the one to message you saying that she'd love to hang out again is a good sign. So yeah, try to set up another date, if she says she can't that particular day say another day, if she says she can't well..then you can start forgetting about her.

On March 12 2015 06:22 iVolty wrote:
My situation at the moment kind of .... sucks for lack of better words. I currently have no job because its been unbelievable trying to get one for various reasons. No car and no real way to contact anyone anymore since my phone has just broken beyond repair. I've tried to date but it never lasts long due to the fact that I really can't do much of anything. So to say my dating luck has not been the best in the last few years haha.



What do you mean you can't "do much of anything"?

If i were you, i'd try to get a part time job, while i can get a real job (idk if thats possible for you in your situation, maybe the reasons that you can't get a job would apply to the part time job too).

You can buy a cheap phone for like.. 50 dollars? and its going to be shitty, but it will at least have internet access i think. So, i don't know what else to say since i don't fully know your situation, but my advice would be either: do what i recommended to sixtrings, or, if you really want a relationship, just keep trying, a lot of people had dates before the cellphone existed
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 12 2015 04:54 GMT
#11951
Girl I thought I loved fucked two guys behind my back.

Well, least I didn't fuck it up this time. Back to square one, let's see if I get anywhere before spring break.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 12 2015 07:08 GMT
#11952
On March 12 2015 12:30 Najda wrote:
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?

In my experience "I'm tired" is the give up sign. If you wanted to go on a date with someone being a little tired wouldn't stop you. If she was really tired the text would have more info like no sleep last night or worked a double or something.

But her texting you first after the date is an really good sign. Try for another meet up. If you get the silent treatment or some kind of weak excuse to not move on.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 12 2015 07:27 GMT
#11953
They should start teaching girls how to say "I'm not interested" in kindergarten. It infuriates me when girls play games.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 12 2015 07:46 GMT
#11954
Why not set up another date? If she blows you off she blows you off.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 12:36:36
March 12 2015 12:32 GMT
#11955
On March 12 2015 16:27 bloodwhore~ wrote:
They should start teaching girls how to say "I'm not interested" in kindergarten. It infuriates me when girls play games.



Yeah, I don't get it.

Remember when I told you guys how badly I struck out with the kidney-snatcher? It's been a while, so I don't expect you to.
At any rate, even she, who was so obviously uninterested gave me the 'this was so nice, let's totally do it again' routine at the end of the night. Of course I have never spoken to her again.

It's so weird to me, I don't find that polite, it's just insincere and a bit cravenly.

On March 12 2015 13:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Girl I thought I loved fucked two guys behind my back.

Well, least I didn't fuck it up this time. Back to square one, let's see if I get anywhere before spring break.


Good riddance and great attitude to have!

A buddy of mine went out with a girl from England who then fucked a guy in the bathroom of a restaurant while she was having dinner with my buddy.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 12 2015 13:45 GMT
#11956
On March 12 2015 04:40 SixStrings wrote:
Rather bleak at the moment. For the second time this year, a girl told me she doesn't want to see me any more because I'm going abroad in fall and said that I wouldn't do long distance.

I understand that they don't want to be involved with someone when the relationship is basically on a clock, but then again, I don't want to be single until September...

What's worse, the next two years won't be any different because no American / English girl will want to get seriously involved with someone who's leaving their continent / country in the foreseable future. Add to that the handicap of being German (in the US) and being European (in England) and my forecast says 30 lonely months.


I went to college and had a German exchange student as my roommate who was also in my same major. I introduced him to a girl who was also in business, and even though he went back to Frankfurt at the end of the semester, the girl followed and they're now engaged. Anything can happen.
Hey! How you doin'?
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32054 Posts
March 12 2015 13:48 GMT
#11957
On March 12 2015 12:30 Najda wrote:
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?

people who short hand bad are not worth your time. you should strongly consider driving a couple hours out into the woods with her and abandoning her for good measure
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
March 12 2015 14:06 GMT
#11958
I agree; I generally try and avoid women who type like that shitty poser I used to buy weed from in high school
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 12 2015 21:51 GMT
#11959
On March 12 2015 22:48 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 12:30 Najda wrote:
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?

people who short hand bad are not worth your time. you should strongly consider driving a couple hours out into the woods with her and abandoning her for good measure


Other than that one instance she always uses proper grammar and even punctuation so I think I'll let it slide.

I texted her today saying we should hang out this evening, she said she was busy studying, I asked when a good time for her was and she replied she'd be done with her tests next Wednesday and we can do something then. We'll see what happens when Wednesday roll around but at this point I'm not getting my hopes up.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 12 2015 22:01 GMT
#11960
On March 12 2015 22:48 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 12:30 Najda wrote:
Is this girl worth any more effort or should I just move on?

Quick summary of events:

Went out with a girl last Wednesday, date went pretty well. She texts me 20 minutes after saying she had a lot of fun and would love to meet up again, we agree Monday would be best. I text her Friday and we talk for a little.

Then Monday I text to confirm and she says she's not sure, she's pretty tired and will let me know. I just say I'll be busy then but let me know and we might be able to hang out later in the evening. She later texts that she's too tired and is just heading home, so I say we'll hang out some other time then.

Today around noon I ask her if she had plans for the day, she doesn't respond until 6:30 and says "my phone was dead all day my b" so I just responded "it happens" two hours later (was playing Dota and forgot). Move on? Try to set up another date?

people who short hand bad are not worth your time. you should strongly consider driving a couple hours out into the woods with her and abandoning her for good measure

Bahahaha. Masculine clarity at its finest!

In all seriousness, blow her off for a few days, and then give her one last shot (presuming that you're into her).
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