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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
If I were in those girl's shoes, I wouldn't have sex for money. Fact is, I would never have sex with anyone unless I am devoted to that person in a relationship, regardless of how attractive that person is. Though my thoughts might be biased because I have never had any financial problems ever and is fine being a virgin. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:30 Gamegene wrote: "Prostitutes have been considered holy by some societies" "Women don't want to be cheated on; those bitches." "Women are just being selfish, why should they want their others to be faithful." I'm just going to say this aloud: you're fucking delusional. I can't comment on the bottom two, but the first one is completely, utterly accurate for "fucked up societies" in Europe and Asia. Maybe if you paid attention in high school world history... This is the first time I've heard of feudal Japan, China, Great Britain, and Hellenistic Greece described as "fucked up", incidentally. Just off the top of my head. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
- it's may or may not be prostitution, that's a graaay area - the guy saying that he fantasized about making the web site since he was really shy and awkward in school made me sad - the guys don't seem like such jerks, although i think donating would be preferable to this. and some of the girls did it to themselves, huge credit card debts etc. honestly i don't mind the website, both parties are somewhat satisfied and it's if it's prostitution at least it's of somewhat quality. just make sure people don't murdered or go missing through the site | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:31 acker wrote: I can't comment on the bottom two, but the first one is completely, utterly accurate for "fucked up societies" in Europe and Japan. Maybe if you paid attention in high school world history... This is the first time I've heard of feudal Japan, Great Britain, and Hellenistic Greece described as "fucked up", incidentally. Just off the top of my head. Does it make it OKAY because they're in europe and japan? Golly gee wizz I sure am sorry to not realize that prostitution had been validated since it was ever so revered ago once upon a time. That's not a real argument when it's the 21st century. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:35 Gamegene wrote: Does it make it OKAY because they're in europe and japan? Golly gee wizz I sure am sorry to not realize that prostitution had been validated since it was ever so revered ago once upon a time. That's not a real argument when it's the 21st century. Just commenting on your knowledge of world history. If you want to talk ethics, start making a post. One way or another, it's quite clear that your hatred of prostitution isn't natural; it's social. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:28 acker wrote: I know that you hate prostitution, but it'd really, really help if you look up the laws other countries with legal prostitution and stop stereotyping all prostitution into the same category. There are many different systems and methods of sex for cash and not all of them fit your mental image of evil. It'd be like if I assume everyone who opposes prostitution is a redneck male Puritan. It's not true and people oppose it from different factions for different reasons. Look up Amsterdam Red Light District on Wikipedia. Note that they even have a union and hold strikes. Geez...I feel as if you were giving me something to argue against. | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:35 Gamegene wrote: Does it make it OKAY because they're in europe and japan? Golly gee wizz I sure am sorry to not realize that prostitution had been validated since it was ever so revered ago once upon a time. That's not a real argument when it's the 21st century. You have yet to make any argument as to why prostitution should be considered abhorrent beyond your own personal reaction to the practice. Please, give us reasons and stop making baseless, angry, claims or there is no debate and your just rambling. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:36 Shiragaku wrote: Geez...I feel as if you were giving me something to argue against. I'm not writing a novel on different legislation different countries write for prostitution, nor am I writing one for the varied kinds of systems that exchange sex for cash. Not when people with PhDs in the subject have done so for me. If you honestly wanted to do research on the issue, I've given you info and Wikipedia has easy info and references on what I've said. If not, you weren't going to change your mind regardless of whatever I post. But I assure you, not all prostitution is like the vision running through your head, and differs based on laws. Not all prostitution even involves pimps. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:35 acker wrote: Just commenting on your knowledge of world history. If you want to talk ethics, start making a post. -_- Sorry I didn't realize that I had to know about foreign cultures and world history when I comment on prostitution. I'm also going to apologize in advance not having covered prostitutes in history class. MY BAD. + Show Spoiler + And honestly I'm just going to say this now rather than later: I used to think it was just an industry that had the misfortune of being related to sex, but actually reading account from prostitutes made me do a complete 180 on the issue. I remember reading this article last year and it quite disturbing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/2010/07/100730_sandra_newman.shtml "it's like being raped for money" | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:30 Gamegene wrote: good fucking god get real. "Prostitutes have been considered holy by some fucked up societies" "Women don't want to be cheated on; those bitches." "Women are just being selfish, why should they want their others to be faithful." I'm just going to say this aloud: you're fucking delusional. wow i'm using the word fuck a lot today. but man, seriously it's just FRUSTRATING to hear someone tell us all about how prostitution is misunderstood and shouldn't be hated on. "I don't like prostitution and anyone who disagrees with me is delusional." You're a fucking idiot. You haven't advanced a single argument that actually debates the issues. Stay out of the thread if you're just gonna demonize anyone who disagrees with your puritanical values. | ||
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Mr. Nefarious
United States515 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:40 acker wrote: I'm not writing a novel on different legislation different countries write for prostitution, nor am I writing one for the varied kinds of systems that exchange sex for cash. Not when people with PhDs in the subject have done so for me. If you honestly wanted to do research on the issue, I've given you info and Wikipedia has easy info and references on what I've said. If not, you weren't going to change your mind regardless of whatever I post. But I assure you, not all prostitution is like the vision running through your head, and differs based on laws. Not all prostitution even involves pimps. I love how you assume all these things about me...especially when I focused on one aspect of prostitution. You are basically putting words into my mouth. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:48 Shiragaku wrote: I love how you assume all these things about me...especially when I focused on one aspect of prostitution. You are basically putting words into my mouth. I think he makes the assumption because prostitution is one of those topics that people have very strong feelings about. It is controversial which makes it good for an argument, but very rarely do people ever get convinced of anything. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:48 Shiragaku wrote: I love how you assume all these things about me...especially when I focused on one aspect of prostitution. You are basically putting words into my mouth. If you have complaints on prostitution AS A WHOLE due to philosophy or religion, then you have yet to post on it. If you are aware that multiple systems of prostitution exist, multiple different types of legislation exist, and do not all fit your posted image of evil, you have yet to show it. I replied exactly to your post, which was entirely on exploitation of women by pimps and slavery, as well as some extremely ignorant viewpoint on "undeveloped nations" like The Netherlands. Here, I'll quote your post for you: + Show Spoiler + On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote: The majority of people (not counting people here) seem to agree that prostitution with two consenting parties should be legal and as such, most services are done as such. But much of prostitution around the world is done by the woman consensually, but she is chained to the job due to a poor economy when a pimp is not telling her to fuck or else she will receive another black eye. So the problem here is not the women who dream who whoring themselves out, but about women who are have to make money through whoring themselves or they will suffer even more. But this is from a perspective of a undeveloped nation. However, this may be misinformed but most of prostitutes in countries that legalize it seem to be women from undeveloped nations. Can't say that many women in well off nations are interested in whoring themselves. | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
IS IT PROSTITUTION? Yes it is prostitution. Still, they are all adults, not like they are teenagers. Many other countries have wayyyy more "f-ed up" situations like teenagers wanting to by Gucci bags and selling their bodies for it. That's way more gg | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
I know her intentions were er.. at the right place perhaps but still... You can't say thats not prostitution. Whats done is done | ||
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Zirith
Canada403 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
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