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WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
August 02 2011 05:30 GMT
#141
So a lot of people would agree on what essentially prostitution.

If I were in those girl's shoes, I wouldn't have sex for money. Fact is, I would never have sex with anyone unless I am devoted to that person in a relationship, regardless of how attractive that person is.

Though my thoughts might be biased because I have never had any financial problems ever and is fine being a virgin.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:35:13
August 02 2011 05:31 GMT
#142
On August 02 2011 14:30 Gamegene wrote:

"Prostitutes have been considered holy by some societies"
"Women don't want to be cheated on; those bitches."
"Women are just being selfish, why should they want their others to be faithful."

I'm just going to say this aloud: you're fucking delusional.


I can't comment on the bottom two, but the first one is completely, utterly accurate for "fucked up societies" in Europe and Asia. Maybe if you paid attention in high school world history...

This is the first time I've heard of feudal Japan, China, Great Britain, and Hellenistic Greece described as "fucked up", incidentally. Just off the top of my head.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 02 2011 05:31 GMT
#143
to be honest most of the guys sound pretty okay, i just want to note a couple of things

- it's may or may not be prostitution, that's a graaay area

- the guy saying that he fantasized about making the web site since he was really shy and awkward in school made me sad

- the guys don't seem like such jerks, although i think donating would be preferable to this.

and some of the girls did it to themselves, huge credit card debts etc. honestly i don't mind the website, both parties are somewhat satisfied and it's if it's prostitution at least it's of somewhat quality. just make sure people don't murdered or go missing through the site
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 02 2011 05:35 GMT
#144
On August 02 2011 14:31 acker wrote:
I can't comment on the bottom two, but the first one is completely, utterly accurate for "fucked up societies" in Europe and Japan. Maybe if you paid attention in high school world history...

This is the first time I've heard of feudal Japan, Great Britain, and Hellenistic Greece described as "fucked up", incidentally. Just off the top of my head.


Does it make it OKAY because they're in europe and japan? Golly gee wizz I sure am sorry to not realize that prostitution had been validated since it was ever so revered ago once upon a time.
That's not a real argument when it's the 21st century.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:37:24
August 02 2011 05:35 GMT
#145
On August 02 2011 14:35 Gamegene wrote:
Does it make it OKAY because they're in europe and japan? Golly gee wizz I sure am sorry to not realize that prostitution had been validated since it was ever so revered ago once upon a time.
That's not a real argument when it's the 21st century.


Just commenting on your knowledge of world history. If you want to talk ethics, start making a post.

One way or another, it's quite clear that your hatred of prostitution isn't natural; it's social.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
August 02 2011 05:36 GMT
#146
saying you pay these girls for humanitarian reasons is completely oxymoronic. if it was charity it would be, but getting any kind of service or anything at all in return makes it business, and in this case a really sick business.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 02 2011 05:36 GMT
#147
On August 02 2011 14:28 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote:
The majority of people (not counting people here) seem to agree that prostitution with two consenting parties should be legal and as such, most services are done as such. But much of prostitution around the world is done by the woman consensually, but she is chained to the job due to a poor economy when a pimp is not telling her to fuck or else she will receive another black eye.


I know that you hate prostitution, but it'd really, really help if you look up the laws other countries with legal prostitution and stop stereotyping all prostitution into the same category. There are many different systems and methods of sex for cash and not all of them fit your mental image of evil.

It'd be like if I assume everyone who opposes prostitution is a redneck male Puritan. It's not true and people oppose it from different factions for different reasons.


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote:
However, this may be misinformed but most of prostitutes in countries that legalize it seem to be women from undeveloped nations. Can't say that many women in well off nations are interested in whoring themselves.


Look up Amsterdam Red Light District on Wikipedia. Note that they even have a union and hold strikes.

Geez...I feel as if you were giving me something to argue against.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
August 02 2011 05:37 GMT
#148
On August 02 2011 14:35 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:31 acker wrote:
I can't comment on the bottom two, but the first one is completely, utterly accurate for "fucked up societies" in Europe and Japan. Maybe if you paid attention in high school world history...

This is the first time I've heard of feudal Japan, Great Britain, and Hellenistic Greece described as "fucked up", incidentally. Just off the top of my head.


Does it make it OKAY because they're in europe and japan? Golly gee wizz I sure am sorry to not realize that prostitution had been validated since it was ever so revered ago once upon a time.
That's not a real argument when it's the 21st century.


You have yet to make any argument as to why prostitution should be considered abhorrent beyond your own personal reaction to the practice. Please, give us reasons and stop making baseless, angry, claims or there is no debate and your just rambling.
hohoho
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:45:23
August 02 2011 05:40 GMT
#149
On August 02 2011 14:36 Shiragaku wrote:
Geez...I feel as if you were giving me something to argue against.


I'm not writing a novel on different legislation different countries write for prostitution, nor am I writing one for the varied kinds of systems that exchange sex for cash. Not when people with PhDs in the subject have done so for me.

If you honestly wanted to do research on the issue, I've given you info and Wikipedia has easy info and references on what I've said. If not, you weren't going to change your mind regardless of whatever I post. But I assure you, not all prostitution is like the vision running through your head, and differs based on laws. Not all prostitution even involves pimps.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#150
On August 02 2011 14:35 acker wrote:
Just commenting on your knowledge of world history. If you want to talk ethics, start making a post.


-_-
Sorry I didn't realize that I had to know about foreign cultures and world history when I comment on prostitution. I'm also going to apologize in advance not having covered prostitutes in history class. MY BAD. + Show Spoiler +


And honestly I'm just going to say this now rather than later: I used to think it was just an industry that had the misfortune of being related to sex, but actually reading account from prostitutes made me do a complete 180 on the issue. I remember reading this article last year and it quite disturbing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/2010/07/100730_sandra_newman.shtml

"it's like being raped for money"
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
August 02 2011 05:47 GMT
#151
On August 02 2011 14:30 Gamegene wrote:
good fucking god get real.

"Prostitutes have been considered holy by some fucked up societies"
"Women don't want to be cheated on; those bitches."
"Women are just being selfish, why should they want their others to be faithful."

I'm just going to say this aloud: you're fucking delusional.

wow i'm using the word fuck a lot today. but man, seriously it's just FRUSTRATING to hear someone tell us all about how prostitution is misunderstood and shouldn't be hated on.


"I don't like prostitution and anyone who disagrees with me is delusional."

You're a fucking idiot. You haven't advanced a single argument that actually debates the issues. Stay out of the thread if you're just gonna demonize anyone who disagrees with your puritanical values.
Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
August 02 2011 05:47 GMT
#152
The key word is in the title: Using.
저그 화이팅
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#153
On August 02 2011 14:40 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:36 Shiragaku wrote:
Geez...I feel as if you were giving me something to argue against.


I'm not writing a novel on different legislation different countries write for prostitution, nor am I writing one for the varied kinds of systems that exchange sex for cash. Not when people with PhDs in the subject have done so for me.

If you honestly wanted to do research on the issue, I've given you info and Wikipedia has easy info and references on what I've said. If not, you weren't going to change your mind regardless of whatever I post. But I assure you, not all prostitution is like the vision running through your head, and differs based on laws. Not all prostitution even involves pimps.

I love how you assume all these things about me...especially when I focused on one aspect of prostitution. You are basically putting words into my mouth.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
August 02 2011 05:50 GMT
#154
On August 02 2011 14:48 Shiragaku wrote:
I love how you assume all these things about me...especially when I focused on one aspect of prostitution. You are basically putting words into my mouth.


I think he makes the assumption because prostitution is one of those topics that people have very strong feelings about. It is controversial which makes it good for an argument, but very rarely do people ever get convinced of anything.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 06:05:14
August 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#155
On August 02 2011 14:48 Shiragaku wrote:
I love how you assume all these things about me...especially when I focused on one aspect of prostitution. You are basically putting words into my mouth.


If you have complaints on prostitution AS A WHOLE due to philosophy or religion, then you have yet to post on it. If you are aware that multiple systems of prostitution exist, multiple different types of legislation exist, and do not all fit your posted image of evil, you have yet to show it. I replied exactly to your post, which was entirely on exploitation of women by pimps and slavery, as well as some extremely ignorant viewpoint on "undeveloped nations" like The Netherlands. Here, I'll quote your post for you:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote:
The majority of people (not counting people here) seem to agree that prostitution with two consenting parties should be legal and as such, most services are done as such. But much of prostitution around the world is done by the woman consensually, but she is chained to the job due to a poor economy when a pimp is not telling her to fuck or else she will receive another black eye. So the problem here is not the women who dream who whoring themselves out, but about women who are have to make money through whoring themselves or they will suffer even more. But this is from a perspective of a undeveloped nation. However, this may be misinformed but most of prostitutes in countries that legalize it seem to be women from undeveloped nations. Can't say that many women in well off nations are interested in whoring themselves.
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
August 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#156
Can't say I'm surprised. Pretty sad to sell yourself just to climb out of debt though.
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
August 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#157
IS IT PROSTITUTION?


Yes it is prostitution. Still, they are all adults, not like they are teenagers. Many other countries have wayyyy more "f-ed up" situations like teenagers wanting to by Gucci bags and selling their bodies for it. That's way more gg
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
August 02 2011 05:59 GMT
#158
How is this not prostitution? How does she say that its not prostitution... Lol she exchanged sex for money.

I know her intentions were er.. at the right place perhaps but still... You can't say thats not prostitution. Whats done is done
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
August 02 2011 06:00 GMT
#159
The dude that made this site is a genius, so much easy money. There are plenty of ways to make money, this is just a really easy way for woman to make money, and it is way safer than prostitution.
Artosis: "I don't trust hyenas."
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 06:00:26
August 02 2011 06:00 GMT
#160
I can't wait to be old and super rich and sleep with a different 19 yr old girl every day of the week. God bless capitalism.
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