EPTGirls using wealthy men to pay off student loans - Page 6
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t3tsubo
Canada682 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
Yeah, that is definitely not the reason. I see what he is getting at, and it's not completely wrong, but he is way too focused on this idea. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
It is the reason. Old puritanical beliefs, lead by women and misinformation about how prostitution can be safe and good for both sides. | ||
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Mordoc
United States162 Posts
Whether it's Whores are paid by the hour, can have a high volume of clients in a given day, and it's based on money, not on who the individual actually is. There's no feeling involved and the entire interaction revolves around a sexual act," or First of all, I don't engage with a high volume of people, instead choosing one or two men I actually like spending time with and have decided to develop a friendship with them. And while sex is involved, the focus is on providing friendship. It's not only about getting paid." But even then, it's prostitution without 90% of the bad of prostitution. The way I see, it isn't illegal because you're having sex for money, but because of the dangers to the women (and men), the abuse that goes on in these relationships (both with the prostitute, the client, and the 'pimp' or web-site owner, and the other crimes that are often committed in these sorts of environments (drugs, violence). Correct me if I am wrong. So I see it as much better (and more clever) than 'traditional' prostitution; though the women (and men) engaging on these sort of encounters are most certainly prostitutes. | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On August 02 2011 13:45 mprs wrote: I doubt that's the reason. The strongest opponents to prostitution are usually women, particularly older, married women. Likewise, these are the same groups who are most prone to engaging in slut-shaming as a form of social control, and are the most critical of stripping or younger girl/older men relationships. By contrast, younger women tend to have more positive views of both sex work or younger girls with older guys. Historically as well, slut-shaming has been primarily driven by other women, even if it's been enforced at times. The Victorian/Puritanical views our society holds on sex is primarily driven by women, not men. I'm well aware that the ostensible reasons given are different, but the presence of the conflict of interest is quite apparent. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 13:43 sunprince wrote: How many women would like their husbands to have hotter, younger women ready to sleep with them? How many women want their husbands to invest their money, sex, and attention in other women? Ultimately, legalized prostitution creates more competition. If you're having trouble conceptualizing this, consider the following though experiment. A male brothel with Chippendale-type male hookers opens down the street. Do you think guys (particularly married ones) living nearby would approve? Why? It's the same reason guys pay more for expensive escorts. Sometimes wealthy guys want classy, educated women to go on dates with. "Cheating is a bad thing!" Well no fuck. I just find it really funny how you talk about prostitutes and spouses like competing businesses. | ||
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Jaxtyk
United States600 Posts
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On August 02 2011 13:50 Gamegene wrote: "Cheating is a bad thing!" Well no fuck. Even if there's no cheating involved, it's still harder for women to find a husband if the guys have more attractive (and functionally cheaper) options available. On August 02 2011 13:50 Gamegene wrote: I just find it really funny how you talk about prostitutes and spouses like competing businesses. Sexual competition is a biological concept, not a business one, but yes, there are some (humorous) similarities. | ||
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
But hopefully in the future prostitution will become safer for all those involved. You're not going to stop it. Might as well protect your citizens. | ||
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EggYsc2
620 Posts
 maybe ill get lucky LOL | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
I don't see anything wrong with this as long as there's stuff in place to prevent abuse to both parties...like laws. I'm in favor of legalizing and regulating prostitution, of course, so my viewpoint is biased. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 13:50 sunprince wrote: The strongest opponents to prostitution are usually women, particularly older, married women. Likewise, these are the same groups who are most prone to engaging in slut-shaming as a form of social control, and are the most critical of stripping or younger girl/older men relationships. By contrast, younger women tend to have more positive views of both sex work or younger girls with older guys. Historically as well, slut-shaming has been primarily driven by other women, even if it's been enforced at times. The Victorian/Puritanical views our society holds on sex is primarily driven by women, not men. I'm well aware that the ostensible reasons given are different, but the presence of the conflict of interest is quite apparent. Okay lol more nonsense from you I see. So older married women engage in slut shaming as a form of social control? Hahahaha. Wow. Did it ever occur to you that it's just a natural reaction to think it's pretty damn disgusting/terrible? You're making this sound like discrimination towards prostitutes from women. Like the average housewife is trying to keep their husbands against their will. Give me a break. also: "By contrast, younger women tend to have more positive views of both sex work or younger girls with older guys." what? | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
But if the girls and guys are doing this legally, then why even discuss the legality of prostitution in the first place in this thread? | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:01 Shiragaku wrote: But if the girls and guys are doing this legally, then why even discuss the legality of prostitution in the first place in this thread? Because what's legal now could become illegal later. Because this technically is prostitution through a loophole, some people might want the loophole closed and some people might want it expanded or some people might want it completely open. Therefore, this thread exists for opinions. Meh, who am I kidding, this thread exists for a fight to the death between internet warriors. I can feel the black hole drawing people in as I type... Let Mortal Kombat begin! | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:01 Shiragaku wrote: Oh yes, one thing to remember is that most prostitutes in countries with legal prostitution are foreigners. So I think if we are going to use this case to debate to talk about the legality of prostitution, we may want to move away from this topic since college girls whoring themselves seems to be less common compared to a brothel. But if the girls and guys are doing this legally, then why even discuss the legality of prostitution in the first place in this thread? Because we have one guy trying to rationalize prostitution when it's pretty obvious that most people believe it's just a vile thing to have in society. IGNORING HIM BACK ON TOPIC: Shit man I'm just going to put this out there right now: browsing through the website some of those girls were pretty hot. Probably baiting for some middle aged dude though (brrrRR). | ||
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dorout1
10 Posts
On August 02 2011 12:16 Nothingtosay wrote: You shouldn't feel cheated there are plenty of older rich women who would do the same for you. Please tell me where to find these older women you speak of. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:08 dorout1 wrote: Please tell me where to find these older women you speak of. Craigslist used to have a section before the feds shut it down. Or so I heard. I'm pretty sure that an offshoot website should be easy enough to find on the Internet, the Internet has everything. | ||
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
that's pretty sad for the men and is essentially being a whore for women | ||
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