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On August 02 2011 13:14 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
Maybe a little... but as with everything in life, there is no black and white, they are all subtle shades of grey.
I agree with this, which is why I would shy away from applying perjorative labels to people who aren't that different from everyone else.
On August 02 2011 13:14 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
These particular girls are way up there on the whore-o-meter and those guys are way up there on the pathetic-o-meter. In my books.
They're less subtle and more explicit about the same arrangement most people make. If that makes them pathetic/whores in your book then that's well and good, but I felt that it was important to point out there's an element of the pot calling the kettle black when we all engage in similar gender roles to some degree.
On August 02 2011 13:19 Shiragaku wrote:
Well we may be able to look into this issue similarly as a sweat shop, but not as extreme.
And how exactly would you do that? These women are getting paid to have romantic getaways and fancy dinners with men that society typically deems attractive (nonphysically for the most part, of course). Any comparison to poverty-level manual labor is utterly wrong,
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On August 02 2011 13:15 sunprince wrote:
So the closest gender reversal would be attractive but socially awkward older men offering to take you on romantic getaways and fancy dinners with the expectation of sex, which isn't such a bum deal.
either way it's pretty bad for the college student regardless of gender.
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Props for the One Piece banner. I tried to look down but my brain wouldn't let me stop looking at One Piece, which saved me from actually seeing the pictures. ;D
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On August 02 2011 13:15 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:06 Z3kk wrote:
I would never be able to bring myself to do this T__T
This is flat-out prostitution from what I was able to glean. :[ Keep in mind that desptie the 'creepy' bias the author tries to impose, wealth is generally considered a highly attractive male trait in our society (plenty of women genuinely feel attraction towards overweight and ugly, but successful men). So the closest gender reversal would be attractive but socially awkward older women offering to take you on romantic getaways and fancy dinners with the expectation of sex, which isn't such a bum deal. Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:14 Nutype wrote:
You just affirmed his point. Thank you, and understand what hes saying before relying next time. Hes being sarcastic Sarcasm carries poorly over the internet, but as far as I can tell it was meant as a serious expression of sympathy towards the 'poor girls'. In which case his point is that women have a hard time making money, and my response is that this is false.
Im not gonna get in an argument with you, but many many people can understand sarcasm on the internet perfectly well. Wether it translates poorly or not, it is up to the individual to figure it out. Thats all im gonna say.
On topic, I wonder how many people will actually admit to this if/when they marry. I'd say if they dont, they know full well its basically prostitution.
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On August 02 2011 13:04 Intox wrote:
Creepy... I think it is prostitution, I mean your trading money for sex, theres no getting around it.
Good thing Norway has a free school system, lessens the need for such desperate actions
Sounds like it's good to come from the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. Who pays for the education?
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This is not a new problem.
I remember being shocked in 2006 when I read a French newspaper that was saying that 2% of female students in France had to resort to prostitution / sexy gogo dancing in clubs to finance their studies.
And public university in France is free.
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On August 02 2011 13:23 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
Yes that's true, but this isn't like that. Where are you getting the idea that the woman is attracted to the man?
My point is that wealthy men are generally considered attractive, the same way young, thin, college-educated girls with pretty smiles are generally considered attractive (right or wrong, there is an equivalence between them in our society). Does that imply you would find any such girl attractive? No, but it does mean the pool of customers you would encounter isn't as horrible as some people are making it out to be.
On August 02 2011 13:23 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
Like in prostitution, the hooker can't make judgement calls on who she wants to sleep with. She finds no attraction to the man.
That's false. Hookers, at least the ones who aren't victims of sexual slavery, don't have to accept any given customer. Within the sex industry, they regularly turn down men who they find completely repulsive or potentially dangerous.
Likewise, in this case, there's plenty of sugar daddies to choose from and there's no compulsion for any girl to accept one (barring perhaps the influence of how much he's offering to pay, but that's still a choice).
On August 02 2011 13:24 Gamegene wrote:
either way it's pretty bad for the college student regardless of gender.
You've failed to give any argument as to why.
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I'm sure many of you realize that prostitution should be legal.
1 in 6 women provide some sort of exchange regarding their sexuality for money. Don't be stupid, this happens all the time, and you probably work with someone who uses a prostitute or escort.
As my friend's mom told her daughter who wanted to quit her job to move to another city with her boyfriend, "That'll just make you a prostitute." The girl is Ivy League educated.
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Dear god.... that is somewhat funny and messed up in the same time.
Hopefully in the future i wont be retarded enough to actually fall to something as stupid as those dating sites -__-
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i thought the real reason prostitution is illegal is because some of the women are forced into it/mistreated etc... i don't see a problem with this website at all. the girls need money and older people need company. it isn't necessarily sex... and nobody is holding a gun to their head. it's not like the girls HAVE to do this... otherwise how do men pay tuition? At least in Canada employers are equal opportunity. plus.. speaking as a student, tuition sucks balls
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On August 02 2011 13:29 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:24 Gamegene wrote:
either way it's pretty bad for the college student regardless of gender.
You've failed to give any argument as to why.
changed the quote to self demonstrate.
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I'm off looking for "sugar Mommies" :p
Honestly, it's pretty fucked up that college students see the need to provide such services in order to pay off their enormous debts... I blame the ridiculously costly American education system.
As far as the moral aspect is concerned, I don't deem it wrong, since it's voluntary and mutually beneficial. btw I don't mind classic prostitution either if it is voluntary.
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On August 02 2011 13:34 aeoliant wrote:
i thought the real reason prostitution is illegal is because some of the women are forced into it/mistreated etc...
No; legalized prostitution actually results in less sexual slavery/trafficking.
The real reason prostitution is illegal is because older/unattractive/married women are threatened by it, since it would allow competition for the resources/attention of wealthy men/their husbands.
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No ones being forced to do anything here. There are no victims. What's the problem?
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On August 02 2011 13:38 sunprince wrote:
The real reason prostitution is illegal is because older/unattractive/married women are threatened by it, because it allows competition for the resources of wealthy men/their husbands.
LOL.
Such utter OMG I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING.
wow. sir you have a really amazing mind.
SUCH UTTER RIDICULOUSNESS. wow competition for resources. hahaha.
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On August 02 2011 13:38 ploy wrote:
No ones being forced to do anything here. There are no victims. What's the problem?
Kinda this, i don't see where all the hate is coming from <.<
Also i wonder how comes the guy didn't just hired a hooker... much cheaper
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I'm confused by the title of the article. Who is using who here? Are we seriously saying that poor students unable to pay their student loans are using affluent older men? It seems to me to be the other way around, affluent older men are taking advantage of the dire financial straights of the young women attending university. Or is the exchange of mutual benefit, <as the owner of the company seems to suggest> in which case the "using" is mutual.
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On August 02 2011 13:24 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:14 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
Maybe a little... but as with everything in life, there is no black and white, they are all subtle shades of grey. I agree with this, which is why I would shy away from applying perjorative labels to people who aren't that different from everyone else. Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:14 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
These particular girls are way up there on the whore-o-meter and those guys are way up there on the pathetic-o-meter. In my books. They're less subtle and more explicit about the same arrangement most people make. If that makes them pathetic/whores in your book then that's well and good, but I felt that it was important to point out there's an element of the pot calling the kettle black when we all engage in similar gender roles to some degree. Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:19 Shiragaku wrote:
Well we may be able to look into this issue similarly as a sweat shop, but not as extreme. And how exactly would you do that? These women are getting paid to have romantic getaways and fancy dinners with men that society typically deems attractive (nonphysically for the most part, of course). Any comparison to poverty-level manual labor is utterly wrong,
Oh yes, I am without a doubt blowing things out of proportion by comparing a safe and more luxurious job to a shithole in Southeast Asia. But the reason for going to the jobs are the same, financial problems.
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On August 02 2011 13:39 Gamegene wrote:
LOL.
Such utter OMG I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING.
wow. sir you have a really amazing mind.
SUCH UTTER RIDICULOUSNESS. wow competition for resources. hahaha.
How many women would like their husbands to have hotter, younger women ready to sleep with them? How many women want their husbands to invest their money, sex, and attention in other women? Ultimately, legalized prostitution creates more competition.
If you're having trouble conceptualizing this, consider the following though experiment. A male brothel with Chippendale-type male hookers opens down the street. Do you think guys (particularly married ones) living nearby would approve? Why?
On August 02 2011 13:41 Aterons_toss wrote:
Also i wonder how comes the guy didn't just hired a hooker... much cheaper
It's the same reason guys pay more for expensive escorts. Sometimes wealthy guys want classy, educated women to go on dates with.
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On August 02 2011 13:38 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:34 aeoliant wrote:
i thought the real reason prostitution is illegal is because some of the women are forced into it/mistreated etc... No; legalized prostitution actually results in less sexual slavery/trafficking. The real reason prostitution is illegal is because older/unattractive/married women are threatened by it, since it would allow competition for the resources/attention of wealthy men/their husbands.
I doubt that's the reason.
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