EPTGirls using wealthy men to pay off student loans - Page 7
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:10 RifleCow wrote: "Selling is legal, sex is legal, so why isn't selling sex legal?" -George Carlin Such troll logic right there. | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On August 02 2011 13:58 Gamegene wrote: So older married women engage in slut shaming as a form of social control? Hahahaha. Wow. Did it ever occur to you that it's just a natural reaction to think it's pretty damn disgusting/terrible? It's not a natural reaction; it's a socialized one. Prostitutes have been viewed differently by different societies, and have even been considered holy by some. On August 02 2011 13:58 Gamegene wrote: You're making this sound like discrimination towards prostitutes from women. Like the average housewife is trying to keep their husbands against their will. No, it's more that the average woman, married or not, would not prefer to have more competition. On August 02 2011 13:58 Gamegene wrote: also: "By contrast, younger women tend to have more positive views of both sex work or younger girls with older guys." what? At least in America, the strongest opposition to prostitution, pornography, stripping, and the like disproportionately comes from older women. The idealistic view of this is that "mothers care more about protecting their daughters" or something like that, but again, there's a certain self-interest role here. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
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EggYsc2
620 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:10 Mykill wrote: providing friendship with money... that's pretty sad for the men and is essentially being a whore for women which is wrong how... | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
I see nothing wrong with prostitution. If people are consenting to it, it doesn't do any harm so what is the problem? EDIT: Also, I think most of the shock people in this thread have expressed is less of the reaction to the prostitution. More of a general: "so this is what it has come to" feeling. | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:06 Gamegene wrote: Because we have one guy trying to rationalize prostitution when it's pretty obvious that most people believe it's just a vile thing to have in society. There's a large number of people in this thread who think there's nothing wrong with this. In fact, we seem to be in the (slight) majority. But good job on not only the argumentum ad populum, but also projecting your own views onto everybody else. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
"I only go out with girls 25 and under," says Jack By the way, how old are you?" he asks, inching closer. "Older than 25," I respond. Best fucking pickup line EVER | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:16 sunprince wrote: There's a large number of people in this thread who think there's nothing wrong with this. In fact, we seem to be in the (slight) majority. But good job on not only the argumentum ad populum, but also projecting your own views onto everybody else. I'm actually kind of surprised that more people haven't shown up with the contrary opinion. I guess the East Coast and Central must be sleeping and it's a work day... Wonder when Europe will start posting? On August 02 2011 14:17 Newbistic wrote: I think this is kind of different from prostitution due to a difference in quantity (of men fucked). "Reserved" prostitution still exists today as well for the right price. Think Shae from GoT, that still happens in RL. The most common type of reserved prostitution is done through marriage; girls marrying millionaires decades older than them for inheritance money... | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
I mean, if a prostitute said she was a prostitute because she didnt have an education, couldnt get any other "job", and needed to take care of her child as a single mother, does that make her any less of a prostitute? I don't mean to degrade or anyone, but from an ethical viewpoint, I think this is just wrong. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:19 JerKy wrote: This is gross. Personally, I see this is prostitution. I mean, regardless of WHAT you're going to use the money for, you're still getting paid to have sex with someone. I mean, if a prostitute said she was a prostitute because she didnt have an education, couldnt get any other "job", and needed to take care of her child as a single mother, does that make her any less of a prostitute? I don't mean to degrade or anyone, but from an ethical viewpoint, I think this is just wrong. She could work at minimum wage, drop out of college, and live the rest of her life in poverty if you and other Americans feel the need to press your ethics onto her... | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:19 JerKy wrote: This is gross. Personally, I see this is prostitution. I mean, regardless of WHAT you're going to use the money for, you're still getting paid to have sex with someone. I mean, if a prostitute said she was a prostitute because she didnt have an education, couldnt get any other "job", and needed to take care of her child as a single mother, does that make her any less of a prostitute? I don't mean to degrade or anyone, but from an ethical viewpoint, I think this is just wrong. On what ethics are you basing this "ethical viewpoint"? In what way is what she is doing harming anybody, or society as a whole. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:14 RifleCow wrote: I see nothing wrong with prostitution. If people are consenting to it, it doesn't do any harm so what is the problem? The majority of people (not counting people here) seem to agree that prostitution with two consenting parties should be legal and as such, most services are done as such. But much of prostitution around the world is done by the woman consensually, but she is chained to the job due to a poor economy when a pimp is not telling her to fuck or else she will receive another black eye. So the problem here is not the women who dream who whoring themselves out, but about women who are have to make money through whoring themselves or they will suffer even more. But this is from a perspective of a undeveloped nation. However, this may be misinformed but most of prostitutes in countries that legalize it seem to be women from undeveloped nations. Can't say that many women in well off nations are interested in whoring themselves. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:23 RifleCow wrote: On what ethics are you basing this "ethical viewpoint"? In what way is what she is doing harming anybody, or society as a whole. Oh she is not harming society. This happened because society was damaged. | ||
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dorout1
10 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:09 acker wrote: Craigslist used to have a section before the feds shut it down. Or so I heard. I'm pretty sure that an offshoot website should be easy enough to find on the Internet, the Internet has everything. well.. craigslist had like, hooker/prostitute arrangements. I'm talking like pulling off something like how a young dude is with a rich ass hulk hogans wife. I'm not saying shes good looking at all just saying that dude is livin it up while hes reaping in provisions probably in exchange for similar deeds these hoes are doing except, some details are different. Regardless, he keeps her happy while he live in luxury. | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote: The majority of people (not counting people here) seem to agree that prostitution with two consenting parties should be legal and as such, most services are done as such. But much of prostitution around the world is done by the woman consensually, but she is chained to the job due to a poor economy when a pimp is not telling her to fuck or else she will receive another black eye. So the problem here is not the women who dream who whoring themselves out, but about women who are have to make money through whoring themselves or they will suffer even more. But this is from a perspective of a undeveloped nation. However, this may be misinformed but most of prostitutes in countries that legalize it seem to be women from undeveloped nations. Can't say that many women in well off nations are interested in whoring themselves. These woman will still be forced into the same position whether or not prostitution is legal. In fact if prostitution is illegal then the same acts will most likely carry more danger due to the risk of its illegality. Being that women being forced into prostitution is a problem of the society itself, then the goal should not be to stop prostitution but to try to better society so that more options are open. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote: The majority of people (not counting people here) seem to agree that prostitution with two consenting parties should be legal and as such, most services are done as such. But much of prostitution around the world is done by the woman consensually, but she is chained to the job due to a poor economy when a pimp is not telling her to fuck or else she will receive another black eye. I know that you hate prostitution, but it'd really, really help if you look up the laws other countries with legal prostitution and stop stereotyping all prostitution into the same category. There are many different systems and methods of sex for cash and not all of them fit your mental image of evil. It'd be like if I assume everyone who opposes prostitution is a redneck male Puritan. It's not true and people oppose it from different factions for different reasons. On August 02 2011 14:23 Shiragaku wrote: However, this may be misinformed but most of prostitutes in countries that legalize it seem to be women from undeveloped nations. Can't say that many women in well off nations are interested in whoring themselves. Look up Amsterdam Red Light District on Wikipedia. Note that they even have a union and hold strikes. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
That said, these women are fucking whores and they need to accept it. No bullshit excuses. That kind of person (man or woman) is simply a whore and I wouldn't touch 'em with a 10 foot pole no matter what they said. I can't hold the kind of respect necessary to be in a relationship with someone for a person that has so little respect for their own body. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 02 2011 14:12 sunprince wrote: It's not a natural reaction; it's a socialized one. Prostitutes have been viewed differently by different societies, and have even been considered holy by some. No, it's more that the average woman, married or not, would not prefer to have more competition. At least in America, the strongest opposition to prostitution, pornography, stripping, and the like disproportionately comes from older women. The idealistic view of this is that "mothers care more about protecting their daughters" or something like that, but again, there's a certain self-interest role here. good fucking god get real. "Prostitutes have been considered holy by some fucked up societies" "Women don't want to be cheated on; those bitches." "Women are just being selfish, why should they want their others to be faithful." I'm just going to say this aloud: you're fucking delusional. wow i'm using the word fuck a lot today. but man, seriously it's just FRUSTRATING to hear someone tell us all about how prostitution is misunderstood and shouldn't be hated on. | ||
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