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On August 02 2011 12:53 Soulish wrote:
Pretty good imo. The older men get what they want (sex), but instead of paying just another prostitute, they'll pay a woman who needs the money. Not saying prostitutes don't need the money, of course.
That somewhat sounds like you are saying that this isn't prostitution.
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The first girl in the article reminded me of Leia and Jabba the Hut.
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Damn I wish I had found out about this before I paid off my student loans. I totally would have done a GILF to pay off my debt.
Hell, I'd do a GILF for free!
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On August 02 2011 12:57 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 12:53 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
Those bitches are whores, plain and simple. Those guys are pathetic, plain and simple. It's amusing that you have a solid grasp on the evolutionary psychology behind prostitution, yet still come to your conclusions. Whores are little different from the majority of women, both today and historically, who exchange companionship and sex for financial resources. Same goes for their male customers.
Eh, I understand evolutionary science, and I have my personal morals. I split them up in such a way that you should be able to tell the difference.
I know it. I understand it. I can figure it out. But I don't like it.
Hey, it's most likely due to the fact that I am dirt poor and have been single for 2 years 
None the less, I may be sad, single, desperate and bitter, but no matter how much money I had, I would never do something like this as it violates my morals... even if it makes evolutionary sense.
You know what else makes evolutionary sense? Polygamy and rape. I can still call polygamists fucked up, and rape monstrous.
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On August 02 2011 12:57 Whoranzone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 12:53 Soulish wrote:
Pretty good imo. The older men get what they want (sex), but instead of paying just another prostitute, they'll pay a woman who needs the money. Not saying prostitutes don't need the money, of course. That somewhat sounds like you are saying that this isn't prostitution.
He is saying there isn't anything wrong with prostitution.
Which there isn't. The problem is the men and women who force others into slavery for it.
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Adding this as a backup plan if the economy turns to shit and I magically can't get a job.
Male sugar baby.
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Creepy... I think it is prostitution, I mean your trading money for sex, theres no getting around it.
Good thing Norway has a free school system, lessens the need for such desperate actions
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On August 02 2011 13:01 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
You know what else makes evolutionary sense? Polygamy and rape. I can still call polygamists fucked up, and rape monstrous.
Yes, but the point I would be making is that you're actually calling virtually all men and all women who live and have ever lived 'pathetic' and 'whores'.
Which could be a legitimate if pessimistic argument, I suppose, but you're using those terms as perjoratives rather than descriptive, which seems questionable when describing virtually all humans ever.
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On August 02 2011 13:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 12:57 Whoranzone wrote:On August 02 2011 12:53 Soulish wrote:
Pretty good imo. The older men get what they want (sex), but instead of paying just another prostitute, they'll pay a woman who needs the money. Not saying prostitutes don't need the money, of course. That somewhat sounds like you are saying that this isn't prostitution. He is saying there isn't anything wrong with prostitution. Which there isn't. The problem is the men and women who force others into slavery for it.
Well my bad then it sounded like there was actually a difference between a prostitute and those arrangements. I don't care for both I may want to add.
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On August 02 2011 13:03 stevarius wrote:
Adding this as a backup plan if the economy turns to shit and I magically can't get a job.
Male sugar baby.
I would never be able to bring myself to do this T__T
This is flat-out prostitution from what I was able to glean. :[
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Meh, creepy, but I see no reason to make it illegal. It boggles my mind why people think it is better for a woman to have to go into the illegal prostitution industry when she has no other way to make cash rather than just allowing it to become an honest, legal, and regulated job.
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Lol at the girl saying she's not a whore. Of course not you're just a girl who has sex with total strangers for cash.
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On August 02 2011 12:57 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 12:53 JediGamer wrote:
I feel so bad for these girls. Because making money as a female wasn't easy enough as is, now prostitution is a victim crime. Contemporary research indicates that women who make the same career choices as men actually do slightly better than men in terms of income. The main sources of the gender gap today are due to different choices in education/occuption as well as maternity leave, not because it's harder to be a girl. A man who majors in communication, gets a job as a secretary, and then takes off 4 years in the prime of their careers to raise children is handicapped just as badly as the typical women who do the same.
You just affirmed his point. Thank you, and understand what hes saying before relying next time. Hes being sarcastic
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I personally find this horrible and tragic and needs to be stopped completely, but not through regulation but rather through growing a strong middle class. But I am preaching to the choir and playing Captain Obvious with that statement and I do not want to turn this into a Capitalism vs non-Capitalist ideology debate.
And before we can make anymore conclusions (I am probably guilty of this) we need to get much more information. One article is not going to enlighten us 100 percent.
Also, I think we can agree that colleges need to be reformed or people need to be smarter about their degree.
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One of the professors from my uni is cited in there =D
That aside...As a student I understand that debt truly is a terrible thing. But to sell sex would be seriously degrading. Then again I'm hardline religious.
Also it's implied in the article that prostitution is legal is some spots and the first ammendment does not cover what they're doing as prostitution due to a technicality
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On August 02 2011 13:05 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:01 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
You know what else makes evolutionary sense? Polygamy and rape. I can still call polygamists fucked up, and rape monstrous. Yes, but the point I would be making is that you're actually calling virtually all men and all women who live and have ever lived 'pathetic' and 'whores'. Which could be a legitimate if pessimistic argument, I suppose, but you're using those terms as perjoratives rather than descriptive, which seems questionable when describing virtually all humans ever.
I see your point. Throwing in a little emotionally charged language there, but I was referring to these specific people in the article. While all people are like this, there are certain degrees of it that surpass the norm. This is one of those degrees. Plain prostitution is another of those degrees. And women dating assholes that are horrible to them just because they have nice cars is another one of those degrees.
But that is a PERSONAL view. I have passed over my fair share of girls because they aren't attractive to me, as I am sure I have been passed over plenty of times because I am poor as dirt. Does that make me pathetic, and those girls whores? Maybe a little... but as with everything in life, there is no black and white, they are all subtle shades of grey.
These particular girls are way up there on the whore-o-meter and those guys are way up there on the pathetic-o-meter. In my books.
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I think prostitution should be legal.
Besides I think they should fix the system that makes the school so expensive in the first place. Maybe stop fighting in 3 different wars and you have money for your own people too?
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On August 02 2011 13:06 Z3kk wrote:
I would never be able to bring myself to do this T__T
This is flat-out prostitution from what I was able to glean. :[
Keep in mind that desptie the 'creepy' bias the author tries to impose, wealth is generally considered a highly attractive male trait in our society (plenty of women genuinely feel attraction towards overweight and ugly, but successful men). So the closest gender reversal would be attractive but socially awkward older women offering to take you on romantic getaways and fancy dinners with the expectation of sex, which isn't such a bum deal.
On August 02 2011 13:14 Nutype wrote:
You just affirmed his point. Thank you, and understand what hes saying before relying next time. Hes being sarcastic
Sarcasm carries poorly over the internet, but as far as I can tell it was meant as a serious expression of sympathy towards the 'poor girls'. In which case his point is that women have a hard time making money, and my response is that this is false.
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Well we may be able to look into this issue similarly as a sweat shop, but not as extreme.
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On August 02 2011 13:15 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 13:06 Z3kk wrote:
I would never be able to bring myself to do this T__T
This is flat-out prostitution from what I was able to glean. :[ Keep in mind that desptie the 'creepy' bias the author tries to impose, wealth is generally considered a highly attractive male trait in our society (plenty of women genuinely feel attraction towards overweight and ugly, but successful men). So the closest gender reversal would be attractive but socially awkward older women offering to take you on romantic getaways and fancy dinners with the expectation of sex, which isn't such a bum deal.
Yes that's true, but this isn't like that. Where are you getting the idea that the woman is attracted to the man? Like in prostitution, the hooker can't make judgement calls on who she wants to sleep with. She finds no attraction to the man.
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