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On January 27 2017 03:32 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2017 03:23 AbouSV wrote:On January 27 2017 03:05 fluidrone wrote:ok, fine.. i'll play my part and retort.. #poster sigh# .. because i think it is of some importance to better get my point across (important for me that is): i stated that i have kids + Show Spoiler +(i stated it because i think it is important to give that piece of information, i not only am raising my kids, but have had ample opportunities to see all my friends have kids (or not), numerous occasions to see/confront/be confronted by other parents (which i have to abide by/respect in their differences for my kid's sake/comfort/etc) and that anyone with kids will be changed considerably (whether they admit it or not) from living through this event + Show Spoiler +furthermore we alll have to learn how to live with this new state of being (meaning you are not the same after your second kid, you evolve from them existing/etc .. it doesn't stop at having a baby but rather gets to be more and more a challenge (if you want to be a part of their upbringing and not leave it to other people...)) .. and therefore that teens/young adults with no such experience are incapable of being truthful/insightful about how they should/would react" if confronted with "any type of suspicion" towards someone taking care of said children... i never said anything about how i went about it (if indeed anything of the sort happened to me/anyone i know etc) or even what i feel about it, i never even commented on the actual hentai business .. i said "any" type of "dangerous/unwanted" information showcasing the person in question in a negative light (what we would perceive as dangerous for our child) could/would trigger the parents into feeling that they should "intervene" / change their trust into distrust/fear and that obviously no one would then let their children be cared for by that person any further. Anything will trigger parents into fearing for their children (again, that is if you do give a f ck about them, but lets put that aside) .. this reaction might be or deemed unreasonable (and it might well be unfounded even) but we are far from being build/made only of rational thoughts.. and when it comes to our kids, we are the very definition of psychotically inept at being reasonable. Now do please continue typing about it and debating abstracts.. it'll keep you busy. Sorry for being not funny in this often constructively fun thread  Because you have kids means you know how each and every new parent goes through? Unfortunately, I know and have seen way too many 'parents' behaving exactly the same with their new child as they do with people they ramble with (which are usually not good friends anyway). Parental instinct (even from the mother) is not a automatic as usually stated. Also, most of you have a weird definition of who you consider your friends °° You don't need to agree 100% with your friends on everything.
Not agreeing of course, else it's boring.
But barely knowing them, felling insecure around them, thinking they might hurt you or your family, this is what I was referring to.
On January 27 2017 09:22 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2017 03:23 AbouSV wrote:On January 27 2017 03:05 fluidrone wrote:ok, fine.. i'll play my part and retort.. #poster sigh# .. because i think it is of some importance to better get my point across (important for me that is): i stated that i have kids + Show Spoiler +(i stated it because i think it is important to give that piece of information, i not only am raising my kids, but have had ample opportunities to see all my friends have kids (or not), numerous occasions to see/confront/be confronted by other parents (which i have to abide by/respect in their differences for my kid's sake/comfort/etc) and that anyone with kids will be changed considerably (whether they admit it or not) from living through this event + Show Spoiler +furthermore we alll have to learn how to live with this new state of being (meaning you are not the same after your second kid, you evolve from them existing/etc .. it doesn't stop at having a baby but rather gets to be more and more a challenge (if you want to be a part of their upbringing and not leave it to other people...)) .. and therefore that teens/young adults with no such experience are incapable of being truthful/insightful about how they should/would react" if confronted with "any type of suspicion" towards someone taking care of said children... i never said anything about how i went about it (if indeed anything of the sort happened to me/anyone i know etc) or even what i feel about it, i never even commented on the actual hentai business .. i said "any" type of "dangerous/unwanted" information showcasing the person in question in a negative light (what we would perceive as dangerous for our child) could/would trigger the parents into feeling that they should "intervene" / change their trust into distrust/fear and that obviously no one would then let their children be cared for by that person any further. Anything will trigger parents into fearing for their children (again, that is if you do give a f ck about them, but lets put that aside) .. this reaction might be or deemed unreasonable (and it might well be unfounded even) but we are far from being build/made only of rational thoughts.. and when it comes to our kids, we are the very definition of psychotically inept at being reasonable. Now do please continue typing about it and debating abstracts.. it'll keep you busy. Sorry for being not funny in this often constructively fun thread Because you have kids means you know how each and every new parent goes through? Unfortunately, I know and have seen way too many 'parents' behaving exactly the same with their new child as they do with people they ramble with (which are usually not good friends anyway). Parental instinct (even from the mother) is not a automatic as usually stated. Also, most of you have a weird definition of who you consider your friends °° The question was what would you do. Not what would bad parents do. Of course some wouldn't give a shit, but they should.
Sure. I was only referring to the point that having a child changes anyone to the point that note having a child make answering this question questionable, but having at least one automatically rend you able to be a lucid judge. ('Lucid', not 'good')
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i said quite the opposite .. i said that when you have a kid .. you become incapable of being rational when it comes to that kid .. and that this experience is difficult if not impossible to have any other way.
Of course that is not the end of it just the beginning, some do "come back" from it when they realize just how hard it hit them, but many don't or realize it and go into denial because of the implications it would have to face such truths.
i am (again) not saying that having children grants power, i am saying that it takes away one's control.
Once you realize that fact about yourself you are arguably better equipped to deal with this. Never having these types of "by product" introspective experiences allows for some sort of abstraction to take place but bypasses the issue completely by not knowing about it, is my point (sorry if that was unclear).
To put it simply:
One often sees the world mainly through one's own introspective journey or lack of, and it is easier / too easy to judge when you are a third party.. but probably the most important part is knowing that you need that introspection, whatever you decide/decided to do on such important issues as raising up kids
Do not mock the guy who can't manage to swim through the river to the other side when you have not attempted yourself.. try to help him! That is easy to get, no?
What is harder to get, is once you are on the other side of the river:
if you are, tell the people who have not attempted how you got there.. that how you got there was YOUR solution and is not the only solution, just that it worked out for you "that way" because "that's what you were confronted with and that's how you "reacted".
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there's a whole lot of history proving you wrong. mainly, that not all parents go borderline paranoid when it comes to their children safety.
sure you might have a point in that a 3rd person pov opinion is not worth as much as a 1st hand experience, but to deny history and claim that over-protection is the only thing one must/will feel when becoming a parent is being delusional. A recent study found that US families have poorer familial relations than other industrialized nations:
Amicable relationships were most prevalent in England, with 75 percent of parents reporting harmonious ties with their grown-up kids. In Spain, 63 percent reported positive relationships, in Germany, 49 percent, and in the United States, 51 percent.
As a fairly new dad, I find this study shudder inducing. Here’s more:
American families were more than twice as likely as those living anywhere else to have so-called disharmonious relationships, or those defined by strong negative feelings, such as disagreement and tension, without any strong positive feelings, including feelings of closeness and amicability. stance on overparenting, different article: Abstract
Intensive mothering, which fits within neo-liberal notions of individual responsibility and risk management, and is based on middle-class ideals, is widely accepted as the ‘proper’ mode of child rearing. Intensive mothering ideology also intersects culturally with expanding notions of risks to children's wellbeing and increasing portrayals of parents as risk factors in their children's lives. State-driven interventions aimed at promoting intensive mothering practices and maximising child outcomes target young and low-income mothers as particular risk groups. This study explored the experiences of young, low-income mothers with intensive parenting advice and educational programmes that focused on child cognitive development. Intensive mothering expectations, and the mandated programmes that promoted them, were experienced as a prescriptive and regulative force in participants’ lives, and age and social class intersected to influence these experiences. Despite this, participants negotiated their own self-perceptions regarding motherhood by resisting, to some extent, the internalisation of intensive mothering ideals, and critiquing the validity of the advice. As a result, the guilt and self-discipline that often accompany intensive mothering for older middle-class mothers were largely absent for this group. Findings also suggest that the provision of basic needs is a potentially more effective policy direction for improving child and maternal well-being than the current neo-liberal focus on risk targeting, education and surveillance. can only find the full research under pay-walls or in snippets from different magazines but it goes to show that what you're advocating does not come naturally or instinctively to new parents but is fairly new imposed trend.
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Lucid was indeed not the right term.
I do get your point, and already did. My mistake was to misread your post as also implying {having children} => {changing behaviour} (as in, always).
Also, props for posting twice in a row without spoilers.
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On January 27 2017 21:29 xM(Z wrote:there's a whole lot of history proving you wrong. mainly, that not all parents go borderline paranoid when it comes to their children safety. sure you might have a point in that a 3rd person pov opinion is not worth as much as a 1st hand experience, but to deny history and claim that over-protection is the only thing one must/will feel when becoming a parent is being delusional. Show nested quote +A recent study found that US families have poorer familial relations than other industrialized nations:
Amicable relationships were most prevalent in England, with 75 percent of parents reporting harmonious ties with their grown-up kids. In Spain, 63 percent reported positive relationships, in Germany, 49 percent, and in the United States, 51 percent.
As a fairly new dad, I find this study shudder inducing. Here’s more:
American families were more than twice as likely as those living anywhere else to have so-called disharmonious relationships, or those defined by strong negative feelings, such as disagreement and tension, without any strong positive feelings, including feelings of closeness and amicability. stance on overparenting, different article: Show nested quote +Abstract
Intensive mothering, which fits within neo-liberal notions of individual responsibility and risk management, and is based on middle-class ideals, is widely accepted as the ‘proper’ mode of child rearing. Intensive mothering ideology also intersects culturally with expanding notions of risks to children's wellbeing and increasing portrayals of parents as risk factors in their children's lives. State-driven interventions aimed at promoting intensive mothering practices and maximising child outcomes target young and low-income mothers as particular risk groups. This study explored the experiences of young, low-income mothers with intensive parenting advice and educational programmes that focused on child cognitive development. Intensive mothering expectations, and the mandated programmes that promoted them, were experienced as a prescriptive and regulative force in participants’ lives, and age and social class intersected to influence these experiences. Despite this, participants negotiated their own self-perceptions regarding motherhood by resisting, to some extent, the internalisation of intensive mothering ideals, and critiquing the validity of the advice. As a result, the guilt and self-discipline that often accompany intensive mothering for older middle-class mothers were largely absent for this group. Findings also suggest that the provision of basic needs is a potentially more effective policy direction for improving child and maternal well-being than the current neo-liberal focus on risk targeting, education and surveillance. can only find the full research under pay-walls or in snippets from different magazines but it goes to show that what you're advocating does not come naturally or instinctively to new parents but is fairly new imposed trend.
Articles with no links? You're getting lazy.
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Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask.
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On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask.
The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation.
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On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation.
Ha!
So naturally, my next question is:
Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread?
Hahaha!
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On January 28 2017 10:33 Frudgey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation. Ha! So naturally, my next question is: Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread? Hahaha!
That's a trick question--you already are 
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On January 28 2017 11:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 10:33 Frudgey wrote:On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation. Ha! So naturally, my next question is: Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread? Hahaha! That's a trick question--you already are
gg wp!
In the true spirit of the thread, I have a stupid question. Why don't humans perform cannibalism? I feel like we could solve both over population and hunger issues all in one fell swoop.
Thoughts?
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On January 28 2017 13:16 Frudgey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 11:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 10:33 Frudgey wrote:On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation. Ha! So naturally, my next question is: Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread? Hahaha! That's a trick question--you already are gg wp! In the true spirit of the thread, I have a stupid question. Why don't humans perform cannibalism? I feel like we could solve both over population and hunger issues all in one fell swoop. Thoughts?
Oh... I'm sorry to tell you this. Humans *are* cannibals. We raise non-human eaters as livestock. It's really super easy, you give them colored paper and they'll do anything you tell them to. If you don't eat people--well, there's only one reason that is the case 
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On January 28 2017 13:16 Frudgey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 11:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 10:33 Frudgey wrote:On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation. Ha! So naturally, my next question is: Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread? Hahaha! That's a trick question--you already are gg wp! In the true spirit of the thread, I have a stupid question. Why don't humans perform cannibalism? I feel like we could solve both over population and hunger issues all in one fell swoop. Thoughts?
"solving overpopulation" you mean killing people on purpose to eat them? do you really need explanation why you do not want it?
More interesting question is, why we do not eat already dead people. It seems irrational, all this adorement of dead bodies looks mostly like another religious nonsense. But most animals also dont eat their own kind, why? Maybe because it is not good for you. My biology friends tell me they would never eat human flesh even if they didnt consider it immoral and thats because of health issues - simply but, a human is the most likely carrier of things bad for humans. Of special concern are prion diseases, recently discussed here.
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On January 28 2017 13:16 Frudgey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 11:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 10:33 Frudgey wrote:On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation. Ha! So naturally, my next question is: Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread? Hahaha! That's a trick question--you already are gg wp! In the true spirit of the thread, I have a stupid question. Why don't humans perform cannibalism? I feel like we could solve both over population and hunger issues all in one fell swoop. Thoughts?
More diseases, killing people being normal is bad for everyone, preparing your own meat, etc. The list is large.
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On January 28 2017 17:23 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 13:16 Frudgey wrote:On January 28 2017 11:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 10:33 Frudgey wrote:On January 28 2017 09:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 28 2017 09:14 Frudgey wrote:
Where's a good place to plug my YouTube Channel?
I do a lot of multiplayer StarCraft, some Fire Emblem, and some other let's plays. I know I could plug it anywhere, but I want to plug it to potentially the "correct" target audience. I realize that there's probably better places to ask, but I'm very clueless about this kind of stuff hence why I'm posting here.
Mods, feel free to delete this post if this isn't the place to ask. The correct answer to all marketing questions is: everywhere you can afford until you hit market saturation. Ha! So naturally, my next question is: Is it okay to shamelessly plug my YouTube channel in this thread? Hahaha! That's a trick question--you already are gg wp! In the true spirit of the thread, I have a stupid question. Why don't humans perform cannibalism? I feel like we could solve both over population and hunger issues all in one fell swoop. Thoughts? More diseases, killing people being normal is bad for everyone, preparing your own meat, etc. The list is large.
Yeah I'm under the impression there is a reason that we feel disgusted by eating humans. Diseases and viruses and whatnot can result spread that way I think, in a way that isn't as big a deal when you eat other species. I think.
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Putting more thought into it, I see why we don't practice cannibalism.
That said, I still think we could use dead bodies for something. Like instead of cremating or burying our dead, why don't we try to use them for fertilizer or something.
So I guess the question is, how much would things change if we valued practicality over sentimentality?
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ashes is good fertilizer albeit acidic; you can balance it out with your pee though and grow organic+bio veggies.
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Who's the most popular/best NFL player to make it to the Superbowl, suit up to play, then ride the pine the whole game?
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Rogers as third string during Favre's 2007 season with the Packers sort of counts, though they fell just short of making it to the Super Bowl.
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