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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 26 2017 14:20 GMT
#11561
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 26 2017 14:47 GMT
#11562
This discussion seems pretty weird. Porn watchers tend to be less or equally likely to commit immoral sex acts as the normal population, and if it's your friend it's just not going to happen.
Suppose your friend did plan to do something. You're not giving him your kid forever, it's babysitting. If your friend had trouble controlling his urges, fear of hurting your family or losing the friendship would probably be worse, right? If he knows that you know about his preferences, then that's even less likely he'll do something. There are so many things working to not let him do anything.
Is your friend a really shitty friend and a rapist? If not, there's pretty much nothing to worry about.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 14:56:30
January 26 2017 14:50 GMT
#11563
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 26 2017 15:00 GMT
#11564
On January 26 2017 23:12 Acrofales wrote:
Really, TM? A moral crusade against Hentai? Because penis-tentacled octopi raping schoolgirls isn't sufficiently fantastic? Why does xMZ have to defend "his" Hentai in any case? It's a rather bizar form of porn, but so are about a billion other fetishes out there. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong to jacking off to Hentai. Nor is there to jacking off to bondage porn, feet, or smelling panties. It's none of it my cup of tea, but if it turns you on, why the hell not. There's a very very long way between Hentai and molesting children.


Last time jimmieC and I discussed the virtues of porn XMZ brought up Kansas state sexual assault laws to help him define what non-deviant sex was. Just curious what he will bring up this go around.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 26 2017 15:13 GMT
#11565
This thread has been surprisingly sexual as of late
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 26 2017 15:57 GMT
#11566
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 26 2017 16:14 GMT
#11567
Well I mean at times it did look like stuff that only mad physicists or mathematicians could be aroused by
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
January 26 2017 16:20 GMT
#11568
On January 27 2017 00:00 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2017 23:12 Acrofales wrote:
Really, TM? A moral crusade against Hentai? Because penis-tentacled octopi raping schoolgirls isn't sufficiently fantastic? Why does xMZ have to defend "his" Hentai in any case? It's a rather bizar form of porn, but so are about a billion other fetishes out there. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong to jacking off to Hentai. Nor is there to jacking off to bondage porn, feet, or smelling panties. It's none of it my cup of tea, but if it turns you on, why the hell not. There's a very very long way between Hentai and molesting children.


Last time jimmieC and I discussed the virtues of porn XMZ brought up Kansas state sexual assault laws to help him define what non-deviant sex was. Just curious what he will bring up this go around.
was better than your preferred scapegoat - the imagination(lol).

hentai is not mine; i can barely sit through a normal cartoon(took me 5 attempts to finish the BFG) except southpark(but that's probably because of all the assholery going on there).
i used the word out of ignorance on cartoon genres most likely(?). people were talking about children and jerking of to and hentai is weird porn and characters in there look way underage so yea ...
were they talking about regular snow white like cartoons?; that would be pretty fucked up. at least hentai is porn of sorts...

JimmiC did bring up a valid point though - ones age. at 15 i'd probably leave the brat alone in the house; i think he'll be fine at ~12yrs too.
"we" (6, 5 and 3.5yr olds) were left alone in the house for ~6-8hours while parents were at work; babysitting was not invented.
sometimes we burned things down or escaped through a window and go outside but nothing major happened(occasionally a neighbor would come to check on us for couple minutes). IT"S FINE!, stop pampering.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 26 2017 17:04 GMT
#11569
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 26 2017 17:10 GMT
#11570
On January 27 2017 02:04 JimmiC wrote:
I was reading the other day that Russia is getting very close to decriminalizing domestic violence. I also know that the States is moving towards making abortion illegall again.

Is it not strange to have the world moving backwards? Is this a minor trend of a little pendulum swing back before it heads forward again or is this a real trend that could move forward?

It has the potential to be both, depending on how the future plays out. Big trends are nothing more than several small battles going one way or the other, after all. That's why we must not give up the fight.
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 26 2017 17:16 GMT
#11571
On January 27 2017 02:04 JimmiC wrote:
I was reading the other day that Russia is getting very close to decriminalizing domestic violence. I also know that the States is moving towards making abortion illegall again.

Is it not strange to have the world moving backwards? Is this a minor trend of a little pendulum swing back before it heads forward again or is this a real trend that could move forward?


The hate Islam and Christians has for the west is the same--its trying to bring things back to the pre-civil rights era.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22675 Posts
January 26 2017 17:31 GMT
#11572
On January 27 2017 02:04 JimmiC wrote:
I was reading the other day that Russia is getting very close to decriminalizing domestic violence. I also know that the States is moving towards making abortion illegall again.

Is it not strange to have the world moving backwards? Is this a minor trend of a little pendulum swing back before it heads forward again or is this a real trend that could move forward?

As you said the pendulum tends to swing back and forward. And yes if we stop fighting the world will move backwards. Which is why people need to fight(vote) so the pendulum can be swung forwards again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 26 2017 17:37 GMT
#11573
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 26 2017 17:42 GMT
#11574
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 26 2017 17:47 GMT
#11575
Here in France we have the Visual Analogue Scale, which is still a scale of 1 to 10, except the patient doesn't give you a number from 1 to 10 but places his pain on a linear, numberless scale.
Here is an example of one ; you have the 1-10 scale on the doctor's side, and linear scale on the patient's side.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18483 Posts
January 26 2017 17:59 GMT
#11576
On January 27 2017 02:42 JimmiC wrote:
With realizing I'm taking this down the political rabbit hole, my apologies.


Has there been any research or work done on measuring actual pain? It seems like the only thing is doctors and health care professionals asking "on a scale of 1-10" which to me is a awful system.

Pain is pretty subjective. What for one person is "merely a flesh wound" for another is unbearable. So it's kinda hard. There's probably neurological studies (but it's not something I know much about), but the ethics are going to be rather tricky, so I'd expect most neurological studies on pain to be done on labrats, which are not quite the same as humans, of course.
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 18:14:17
January 26 2017 18:05 GMT
#11577
ok, fine.. i'll play my part and retort.. #poster sigh# .. because i think it is of some importance to better get my point across (important for me that is):

i stated that i have kids + Show Spoiler +
(i stated it because i think it is important to give that piece of information, i not only am raising my kids, but have had ample opportunities to see all my friends have kids (or not), numerous occasions to see/confront/be confronted by other parents (which i have to abide by/respect in their differences for my kid's sake/comfort/etc)
and that anyone with kids will be changed considerably (whether they admit it or not) from living through this event + Show Spoiler +
furthermore we alll have to learn how to live with this new state of being (meaning you are not the same after your second kid, you evolve from them existing/etc .. it doesn't stop at having a baby but rather gets to be more and more a challenge (if you want to be a part of their upbringing and not leave it to other people...))
.. and therefore that teens/young adults with no such experience are incapable of being truthful/insightful about how they should/would react" if confronted with "any type of suspicion" towards someone taking care of said children...

i never said anything about how i went about it (if indeed anything of the sort happened to me/anyone i know etc) or even what i feel about it, i never even commented on the actual hentai business ..
i said "any" type of "dangerous/unwanted" information showcasing the person in question in a negative light (what we would perceive as dangerous for our child) could/would trigger the parents into feeling that they should "intervene" / change their trust into distrust/fear and that obviously no one would then let their children be cared for by that person any further.

Anything will trigger parents into fearing for their children (again, that is if you do give a f ck about them, but lets put that aside) .. this reaction might be or deemed unreasonable (and it might well be unfounded even) but we are far from being build/made only of rational thoughts.. and when it comes to our kids, we are the very definition of psychotically inept at being reasonable.

Now do please continue typing about it and debating abstracts.. it'll keep you busy.
Sorry for being not funny in this often constructively fun thread
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
January 26 2017 18:23 GMT
#11578
On January 27 2017 03:05 fluidrone wrote:
ok, fine.. i'll play my part and retort.. #poster sigh# .. because i think it is of some importance to better get my point across (important for me that is):

i stated that i have kids + Show Spoiler +
(i stated it because i think it is important to give that piece of information, i not only am raising my kids, but have had ample opportunities to see all my friends have kids (or not), numerous occasions to see/confront/be confronted by other parents (which i have to abide by/respect in their differences for my kid's sake/comfort/etc)
and that anyone with kids will be changed considerably (whether they admit it or not) from living through this event + Show Spoiler +
furthermore we alll have to learn how to live with this new state of being (meaning you are not the same after your second kid, you evolve from them existing/etc .. it doesn't stop at having a baby but rather gets to be more and more a challenge (if you want to be a part of their upbringing and not leave it to other people...))
.. and therefore that teens/young adults with no such experience are incapable of being truthful/insightful about how they should/would react" if confronted with "any type of suspicion" towards someone taking care of said children...

i never said anything about how i went about it (if indeed anything of the sort happened to me/anyone i know etc) or even what i feel about it, i never even commented on the actual hentai business ..
i said "any" type of "dangerous/unwanted" information showcasing the person in question in a negative light (what we would perceive as dangerous for our child) could/would trigger the parents into feeling that they should "intervene" / change their trust into distrust/fear and that obviously no one would then let their children be cared for by that person any further.

Anything will trigger parents into fearing for their children (again, that is if you do give a f ck about them, but lets put that aside) .. this reaction might be or deemed unreasonable (and it might well be unfounded even) but we are far from being build/made only of rational thoughts.. and when it comes to our kids, we are the very definition of psychotically inept at being reasonable.

Now do please continue typing about it and debating abstracts.. it'll keep you busy.
Sorry for being not funny in this often constructively fun thread

Because you have kids means you know how each and every new parent goes through?
Unfortunately, I know and have seen way too many 'parents' behaving exactly the same with their new child as they do with people they ramble with (which are usually not good friends anyway). Parental instinct (even from the mother) is not a automatic as usually stated.

Also, most of you have a weird definition of who you consider your friends °°
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 26 2017 18:32 GMT
#11579
On January 27 2017 03:23 AbouSV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 03:05 fluidrone wrote:
ok, fine.. i'll play my part and retort.. #poster sigh# .. because i think it is of some importance to better get my point across (important for me that is):

i stated that i have kids + Show Spoiler +
(i stated it because i think it is important to give that piece of information, i not only am raising my kids, but have had ample opportunities to see all my friends have kids (or not), numerous occasions to see/confront/be confronted by other parents (which i have to abide by/respect in their differences for my kid's sake/comfort/etc)
and that anyone with kids will be changed considerably (whether they admit it or not) from living through this event + Show Spoiler +
furthermore we alll have to learn how to live with this new state of being (meaning you are not the same after your second kid, you evolve from them existing/etc .. it doesn't stop at having a baby but rather gets to be more and more a challenge (if you want to be a part of their upbringing and not leave it to other people...))
.. and therefore that teens/young adults with no such experience are incapable of being truthful/insightful about how they should/would react" if confronted with "any type of suspicion" towards someone taking care of said children...

i never said anything about how i went about it (if indeed anything of the sort happened to me/anyone i know etc) or even what i feel about it, i never even commented on the actual hentai business ..
i said "any" type of "dangerous/unwanted" information showcasing the person in question in a negative light (what we would perceive as dangerous for our child) could/would trigger the parents into feeling that they should "intervene" / change their trust into distrust/fear and that obviously no one would then let their children be cared for by that person any further.

Anything will trigger parents into fearing for their children (again, that is if you do give a f ck about them, but lets put that aside) .. this reaction might be or deemed unreasonable (and it might well be unfounded even) but we are far from being build/made only of rational thoughts.. and when it comes to our kids, we are the very definition of psychotically inept at being reasonable.

Now do please continue typing about it and debating abstracts.. it'll keep you busy.
Sorry for being not funny in this often constructively fun thread

Because you have kids means you know how each and every new parent goes through?
Unfortunately, I know and have seen way too many 'parents' behaving exactly the same with their new child as they do with people they ramble with (which are usually not good friends anyway). Parental instinct (even from the mother) is not a automatic as usually stated.

Also, most of you have a weird definition of who you consider your friends °°


You don't need to agree 100% with your friends on everything.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 27 2017 00:22 GMT
#11580
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