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Empyrean
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Initial_H.C.
Canada560 Posts
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
That said, Get a degree, I have one and I dont regret it in the slightest, it makes any career change or choice that much easier to attain. Your resume looks prettier, and even if the job you are applying for has nothing to do with your degree, having a degree pretty much says "hey, Im not stupid, and I am responsible" | ||
jackarage
Canada104 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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AppLeCheesE
33 Posts
On January 05 2011 12:27 Empyrean wrote: Of course, you do have to take into consideration the vast number of people who didn't go to college and also failed. Basically what it comes down to is this: if you are hard working, have a good work effort, and are willing to sacrifice, then you will be successful whether or not you go to university. Even that isn't true. What should be taken from your words is: "Nothing is certain". Everyone in a way is unique, some people are capable of operating and live successful, fulfilling lives while those same type of people; live a horrible life. | ||
ziggurat
Canada847 Posts
University can be very valuable. But go there with a plan. Take something that will teach you employable skills. Lots of people have gone to school in philosophy or geography or whatever and ended up wasting time with no real career benefits. Many people feel (and I agree) that there is currently a "higher education bubble": http://washingtonexaminer.com/node/470261 | ||
teh leet newb
United States1999 Posts
(Source: http://www.earnmydegree.com/online-education/learning-center/education-value.html) | ||
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Empyrean
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
However, There are tons of people out there who are successful with not having degree under their belt who are living a comfortable lifestyle. My parents did live a comfortable lifestyle without having a degree for 10 years( reason I say did is because the economy has yet to pick up thus we are still struggling). I knew people whose friends, with no degree, live a nice life from their own business (pressure washing cleaning company, lawn mowing business, etc.) You need to realize, as most have said, that YOU decide how comfortable YOUR lifestyle will be. If you work hard, you will find a way to be happy. You just need to find a way. That is the hard part. There are option available always. Always. If you feel that having a degree is the way to go but you can't, then put a hold on your life till you built a strong foundation (obviously last resort and confident with your decision). Better to have your units in position and ready then to just rush in to the base uncoordinated. | ||
GiantEnemyCrab
Canada503 Posts
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Empyrean
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
It is still possible to get an "ok" job without any sort of tertiary education depending on the country you live in. The good thing about American schools is that you can drop out and come back again to school as long as you give your school a good reason. Don't worry about stopping school as long as you have a legitimate reason. Other alternatives are getting certified for other fields(I.T related) or other specializations(technical, culinary schools) that you have to look into yourself. | ||
stalking.d00m
213 Posts
Having an University degree is like having a high school degree now, everyone has one and it's a bare requirement to achieve for almost any job that is not based on minimum wage. It is EXACTLY the same way here in India. I think Asia is a lot more competitive than people think. Everybody is doing masters here and that too in multiple fields! Ok back to the question- No and Yes. The degree is not required to be successful in life IF you are aiming to do something different, something unorthodox but if you are going to opt for normal jobs then a degree is a must for getting a decent job. That's the way the world is. The safest possible route is to go to university and study. Yeah, no drugs or booze just really focus on studies. There's no point in going to university if you planning on partying 24/7. | ||
InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
If you have the money and genuinely want to explore intellectual avenues, then liberal arts degrees are awesome for that. The point of liberal arts programs are not to provide technical training, but to shape you into a better rounded person. Even if the degree is not applicable to your field of employment, they can set you up for a number of reasonably decent careers in fields like education and human resources. International relations, with a language, is another great field if you are interested in languages, and you will always be highly employable in that even though it is a liberal arts degree. It is possible to work hard and get ahead with no degree, but you will need to have a drive and work ethic that really sets you apart from your peers. You can make a decent living in manufacturing, the service industries, and other fields, but you will have no room for career advancement, unless you have the means and exceptional drive to start your own business. The majority of small businesses lose money and fail within the first year, so it is a large risk and dependent on your entrepreneurial ability. From my experience as an engineer in the manufacturing industry, a non college graduate with 4 years of experience will make about the same as a new college graduate, but a college graduate with 5 years of experience will make far more then a non college graduate with 10 years of experience. Another thing to look at is the type of work you can expect to do as a college graduate versus as a non college graduate. Do you want to work behind a desk, or do you prefer work with your hands and body? Manual labor/service industry jobs are often hard and exhausting, so it is an important distinction to consider. I know I would last about 10 minutes as a construction worker. You will spend a huge portion of your adult life doing your job, so make sure to set yourself up for something you will enjoy. | ||
dreamsmasher
816 Posts
also its a great time to network, make friends, and think about what you want to do with your life. | ||
Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
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Abstinence
United States328 Posts
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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
If you want to go to school, do it, it can be rewarding. But choose a useful major. | ||
AppLeCheesE
33 Posts
Consider your values; you cannot have everything you want. Even Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and other uber-billionaires are incapable of it; since they used their early years to secure their fortunes. Which of course required them working their asses off; struggling emotionally because of insecurities and depression which were a result of never experiencing the finer things in life; including: travel, relationships (friends+sexual), entertainment, food and relaxation. Unless of course, they enjoyed the power. So why not, invest the remaining time you have; and live life to the best of your abilities. Don't take the realism negatively, I mean it because you seem like an honest person; as supported by your willingness to give up opportunity to support people you care about. It is admiral of someone in your position. | ||
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