The Big Programming Thread - Page 30

On December 27 2010 16:55 Craton wrote:
The vast majority of my work right now (.NET intern) deals with ASP.NET (I hate stateless programming so very, very much). A lot of what I do is fairly simplistic, but rather a pain in the ass to accomplish in the stateless world. Lots of converting legacy ASP to .NET, too.

Example:
Imagine you have an inventory system to keep track of your company's hardware (computers, printers, etc), including who is responsible, where it is, what it is, and so forth; it's all stored in a SQL Server DB. It's my job to make admin-accessible forms/pages so that someone could come in and get a nice chart-view of everything and make edits. Database design/modifications may or may not be required for any of what I do; it depends on what they want added or changed. If it's just straight convert old X to new X, it's usually doable in a few hours.

It's pretty easy on paper and even easier for an experienced programmer, but glhf if you're still an ASP.NET novice. There are lots of ways to accomplish this, but actually doing it efficiently (so you're not whacking against the server/DB all the time) and in a way that's easily modified or read by someone else is a challenge in and of itself. I think a lot of introductory .NET jobs involve migrating old systems to .NET, so this is as good a place to start as any.

If you do decide to play with ASP.NET, learn the page life-cycle well. Also get intimately familiar with how/when data is (or isn't) persisted. That alone will take awhile to get used to (I'm still working on it after a number of months).

On December 27 2010 22:11 decaf wrote:
I just felt like pointing out that some of the languages you posted aren't programming languages. Btw, there isn't even C on that list.. :S

On December 27 2010 21:04 KaiserJohan wrote:


Did you have any experience working with databases or functional languages before? Finishing my last year of CS and I have no idea what they'll expect of you as a new CS graduate. Besides from studies, in the past year I've been fiddling with C# and win32 (I really don't like MFC or CLI syntax but I guess I'll have to learn it >.<).

On December 28 2010 01:05 tofucake wrote:

So...what are they? Tools used in conjunction with "real" programming languages?

On December 28 2010 01:05 tofucake wrote:

So...what are they? Tools used in conjunction with "real" programming languages?

On December 30 2010 05:24 hegl wrote:
Hi guys, this feels so basic that i'm a bit embarrassed, but anyways:
i've been programming as a hobby for some time, and am now learning it from the scratch in the university. one thing is driving me nuts though, as i am toying abit around with pointers. (this is C btw ):

void bar(char *foo)
{
  foo[0] = 'd';
  foo[1] = 'e';
  foo[2] = 'f';
  printf("%s\n", foo);
}

int main()
{
  char foo[4] = "abc";
  printf("%s\n", foo);
  bar(foo);
  printf("%s\n", foo);
}

this is working like i want it too, it prints:
abc
def
def

however, if i use this instead:

void bar(char *foo)
{
  foo = "def";
  printf("%s\n", foo);
}

the output is
abc
def
abc

and, on top of things, if i use this:

void bar(char *foo)
{
  foo = "def";
  foo[0] = 'd';
  foo[1] = 'e';
  foo[2] = 'f';
  printf("%s\n", foo);
}

the programm crashs.

thanks for your help

On December 28 2010 03:07 decaf wrote:

I don't know, I would call some of them description language. For instance html, you describe web pages with it, but you can't program anything with this language. Most people don't know the difference anyways so it doesn't matter.

On December 30 2010 06:01 mmp wrote:
Craton, do you just want to pull out the first row after the ordering? It's a little unclear from what you've presented what your query is intending to do (I'm just a PHP amateur).

item_id | item_name  | misc. columns | Checked Out By
1 | C# Reference Book | < etc etc etc > | Joe Smith
1 | C# Reference Book | < etc etc etc > | Billy Bob

On December 30 2010 06:15 Craton wrote:


Right now I get something like:

item_id | item_name  | misc. columns | Checked Out By
1 | C# Reference Book | < etc etc etc > | Joe Smith
1 | C# Reference Book | < etc etc etc > | Billy Bob

It's the same book, but it has been checked out (and back in) by Billy Bob and then checked out again by Joe Smith.

Actually now that I think about I probably just need a where clause about the check-in date being null. Of course I can't test that because someone broke the DB server again, but it should be sufficient.