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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Copy machines are for the new kids pfff | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
And to the guy who implied that the people who enjoyed the story are unintelligent - that's such a silly and arrogant statement it almost made me lol. For someone who apparently holds himself out to be very smart, you would think you'd put more thought into a statement like that. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
zombies Then the Illuminati (Taggart's final position is the worst in the game) get thrown in and Adam and the game thinks nothing of it. In terms of the canon, they really are the deus ex machina between 3 and 1. Anyways, here's the guy who designed the bosses. Surprise! He didn't play DX1. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
The bosses did feel very disconnected from the rest of the gameplay. | ||
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PizzaParty
Canada169 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Now if someone in RL goes into a bar and starts killing people with 2 blades they will blame it on Deus Ex 3 :D | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
I enjoyed the game a lot, and it felt surprisingly like the original, although no where near as deep. I wasn't a huge fan of how shooting handled, but then I almost never did it so that was kind of irrelevant. I was really disappointed at how much space every gun takes up, and how you have almost no room for ammo (when ammo is sparse to begin with)... again, I didn't really shoot except during boss fights, but still annoying. The skyline is hilariously bad at points (one point a helicopter comes across it and it looks like something from the 1998 xD), but given how the rest of the game looks it was easy for me to ignore. The story was a disappointment. I think it was really hard for me to believe the story went where it did given what Adam knew. He seems like he's blindly wandering around and he just happens to get enough out of people to know where to go next (like the go to Hong Kong bit, that was just dumb). I suppose it's the passive vs active participant thing- it never really feels like Adam is controlling his destiny, he's just going wherever the tides take him. I don't know, despite all its flaws, I found it very enjoyable. Kind like Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl in that respect. Also, getting the pacifist achievement makes you do some potentially really crappy things. Early game spoiler: + Show Spoiler + Everyone gave me a bunch of crap for saving no one during the breakin at Safir. I guess there were a few scientists I could have saved if I had been shooting. Very late game spoiler: + Show Spoiler + I gave up trying to save Malik without killing anyone: it is very possible to do so, but the freaking bot makes it very dicey- the one time I got close I couldn't find the last guy I hadn't knocked out immediately, and that was enough to screw me over. If you just run straight to the elevator, Malik gets executed in front of you as you ride up the elevator. That was gut wrenching. Also, near the end it gets pretty dumb. You don't have to play all that stealthy, just alert the nearest guard, then knock them out as they run up to you one by one. If they split apart enough, you can just hide behind cover and pop out until one of them runs out of ammo, sprint up to that guy when they're reloading, and knock him out. This strategy might explain how I zoomed through the game. xD Oh, also one of the Shanghai sidequests pissed me off: + Show Spoiler + You can pay 5000 credits to get Tong's guys to stop harassing Jaya. If you do, Tong's guy gives you a Praxis kit for no reason, and Jaya disappears from her apartment and you never hear from her again. This is really lazy writing in my opinion- either let Jaya disappear (with something at her apartment to indicate she fled) and have no Praxis kit at all, or have her express gratitude with the Praxis kit and not have Tong's guy give it to you. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 20 2011 20:19 Jibba wrote: Your posting history doesn't prove me wrong. The story didn't just become bad when they introduced + Show Spoiler + zombies Then the Illuminati (Taggart's final position is the worst in the game) get thrown in and Adam and the game thinks nothing of it. In terms of the canon, they really are the deus ex machina between 3 and 1. Anyways, here's the guy who designed the bosses. Surprise! He didn't play DX1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i9YbSkOW7sU#! That's all very nice, but I don't see where you supported your position that people who enjoyed the story are unintelligent. You just gave your opinion that the story is bad. Are intelligent people necessarily turned off by "obviousness"? Why? Also please point to the past posts of mine that show a lack of intelligence. Love when people assume that those who disagree with them aren't smart. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:47 zer0das wrote: Well I just beat the game on the hardest difficulty, got the pacifist achievement. Finished it in 26.7 hours, which seemed really short. I did pretty much every side quest I ran across too, I don't think I missed more than 2-3. I enjoyed the game a lot, and it felt surprisingly like the original, although no where near as deep. I wasn't a huge fan of how shooting handled, but then I almost never did it so that was kind of irrelevant. I was really disappointed at how much space every gun takes up, and how you have almost no room for ammo (when ammo is sparse to begin with)... again, I didn't really shoot except during boss fights, but still annoying. The skyline is hilariously bad at points (one point a helicopter comes across it and it looks like something from the 1998 xD), but given how the rest of the game looks it was easy for me to ignore. The story was a disappointment. I think it was really hard for me to believe the story went where it did given what Adam knew. He seems like he's blindly wandering around and he just happens to get enough out of people to know where to go next (like the go to Hong Kong bit, that was just dumb). I suppose it's the passive vs active participant thing- it never really feels like Adam is controlling his destiny, he's just going wherever the tides take him. I don't know, despite all its flaws, I found it very enjoyable. Kind like Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl in that respect. Also, getting the pacifist achievement makes you do some potentially really crappy things. Early game spoiler: + Show Spoiler + Everyone gave me a bunch of crap for saving no one during the breakin at Safir. I guess there were a few scientists I could have saved if I had been shooting. Very late game spoiler: + Show Spoiler + I gave up trying to save Malik without killing anyone: it is very possible to do so, but the freaking bot makes it very dicey- the one time I got close I couldn't find the last guy I hadn't knocked out immediately, and that was enough to screw me over. If you just run straight to the elevator, Malik gets executed in front of you as you ride up the elevator. That was gut wrenching. Also, near the end it gets pretty dumb. You don't have to play all that stealthy, just alert the nearest guard, then knock them out as they run up to you one by one. If they split apart enough, you can just hide behind cover and pop out until one of them runs out of ammo, sprint up to that guy when they're reloading, and knock him out. This strategy might explain how I zoomed through the game. xD Oh, also one of the Hong Kong sidequests pissed me off: + Show Spoiler + You can pay 5000 credits to get Tong's guys to stop harassing Jaya. If you do, Tong's guy gives you a Praxis kit for no reason, and Jaya disappears from her apartment and you never hear from her again. This is really lazy writing in my opinion- either let Jaya disappear (with something at her apartment to indicate she fled) and have no Praxis kit at all, or have her express gratitude with the Praxis kit and not have Tong's guy give it to you. Erm, what? You can save the hostages at the start. That has nothing to do with you not wanting to kill people or not. If you explored all the rooms, you can hardly miss it. As for Malik, you can save her very easily. There are 2 crucial things you need to do. First, sprint and knock out the two heavy gunners. Second, take out the robot; EMP grenade works wonders. The rest is cake and you can just slowly finish them off. And by Hong Kong, you mean Shanghai? | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:58 Doodsmack wrote: That's all very nice, but I don't see where you supported your position that people who enjoyed the story are unintelligent. You just gave your opinion that the story is bad. Are intelligent people necessarily turned off by "obviousness"? Why? Also please point to the past posts of mine that show a lack of intelligence. Love when people assume that those who disagree with them aren't smart. I'm not going to fight a war that is not mine, and I'm not going to write an essay on the subject, but here are my 2 cents. Jibba might be a bit blunt, but I can understand where he is coming from. I find people who have good critical thinking abilities will likely see more holes/flaws in the story, making it less enjoyable. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
People who play since the mid 90's and have tried all the great FPS / hybrid when they were released know why this game doesn't deserve to be a "classic". It doesn't bring enough content and new concepts compared to Dx1. Overall i think it is a common problem with sequels. Good/Great games but nothing revolutionnary. | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
My second playthrough I'm on hard, and trying to get ghost on every mission, but also not concerned about killing, so lots of silenced sniper shots to the head. A playthrough my friend did, and I'm considering trying is the "I'm Adam Jenson, bitch" playthrough, where you always take the most direct straight forward way, killing everyone who tries to stop you. No need to hack, only a few needed conversations, no need to get all those crazy augs that get you into various places, just straight up killing everyone in your way. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On September 21 2011 04:22 Fishball wrote:Erm, what? You can save the hostages at the start. That has nothing to do with you not wanting to kill people or not. If you explored all the rooms, you can hardly miss it. I think you're talking about a different part of the game. Not talking about the factory... Also, whoops, Hong Kong, Shanghai... eh, shows how much I pay attention. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On September 21 2011 04:38 Shiladie wrote: I did my first playthrough to screw around on the easy difficulty while doing a non-lethal run. It was amazingly fun to knock out everyone in a building and drag them all into the air vents. My second playthrough I'm on hard, and trying to get ghost on every mission, but also not concerned about killing, so lots of silenced sniper shots to the head. A playthrough my friend did, and I'm considering trying is the "I'm Adam Jenson, bitch" playthrough, where you always take the most direct straight forward way, killing everyone who tries to stop you. No need to hack, only a few needed conversations, no need to get all those crazy augs that get you into various places, just straight up killing everyone in your way. That's the playthrough I'm doing right now, although I do still do a bit of sneaking here and there, but mostly just to get into a better defensive position to start picking people off. Just running and gunning does NOT work on the hardest difficulty (which this run is on). On September 21 2011 04:54 zer0das wrote: I think you're talking about a different part of the game. Not talking about the factory... Also, whoops, Hong Kong, Shanghai... eh, shows how much I pay attention. It's impossible, I even tried sprinting to the locations I knew people were gonna get shot, but it's a scripted event, you can't influence it. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On September 21 2011 04:54 zer0das wrote: I think you're talking about a different part of the game. Not talking about the factory... Also, whoops, Hong Kong, Shanghai... eh, shows how much I pay attention. Ah, you mean the earliest stage of the game. Hmm, that I'm not sure. I've killed all of them, and I've also tried skipping them. I think they still bitch how you couldn't save anyone at all. Hell you couldn't even save yourself  | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On September 21 2011 05:04 deth2munkies wrote:It's impossible, I even tried sprinting to the locations I knew people were gonna get shot, but it's a scripted event, you can't influence it. Not terribly surprised... but pretty dumb. There's at least two that I can think of that should be saveable easily. | ||
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FacelessVoid
United States408 Posts
On September 21 2011 04:22 Fishball wrote: And by Hong Kong, you mean Shanghai? And by Shanghai, you mean Hengsha? | ||
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
I'm gonna buy Deus Ex on Steam and I'm not sure if that Augmented Edition is worth the $10. Ty in advance. o_o | ||
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ProjectVirtue
Canada360 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:43 Hoon wrote: What's up with the Augmented Edition? I'm gonna buy Deus Ex on Steam and I'm not sure if that Augmented Edition is worth the $10. Ty in advance. o_o i don't have the artbook, but i thoroughly enjoy listening through the OST, Icarus in particular is my favorite track on the album for obvious reasons. | ||
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:47 ProjectVirtue wrote: i don't have the artbook, but i thoroughly enjoy listening through the OST, Icarus in particular is my favorite track on the album for obvious reasons. Well an artbook and an OST doesn't feel like it's worth 10 bucks. <_< I bought noly the game. Downloading it now, thanks for the advice tho. d: My Electric Circuits teacher challenged me to finish the game before he does. I'll do my best this weekend. :D | ||
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