EPTCan you only work 3 tiles out from a city still?
Is wide just straight up better than tall in this game like Endless Legends?
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
Can you only work 3 tiles out from a city still? Is wide just straight up better than tall in this game like Endless Legends? | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10135 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 25 2016 01:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote: This game is so different than Civ 5 I don't even know where to start with how to optimally build up cities/districts, how many cities is good, or what distances you ought to construct cities from one another Can you only work 3 tiles out from a city still? Is wide just straight up better than tall in this game like Endless Legends? I think that the distinction of wide vs tall boils down to the availability of good city sites. If there's a good expansion spot (fresh water, luxuries/strategic resources, high production), you should take it. Settling shit cities in the middle of nowhere probably isn't a good idea unless you're capped out in your main cities and don't have much to do. Beyond that, I think that expansion should be done in multiples of four given that that is how luxuries are distributed across the empire (ie you need 1 of a given luxury for every four cities that you have). I will say this however: my best starts are the ones where I'm able to conquer a neighbor within the first hundred turns. The boost that you get from the extra territory and infrastructure is huge. As for district order, you got me. I'm still figuring that one out. Campuses and holy sites are both very strong for their own reasons and are good picks for your initial districts. You eventually will need an industrial zone in every city. Commercial hubs are also critical for getting your money going -- particularly if you plan on fielding a large military. You can pass on encampments for as long as you have two of whatever strategic resource that you need. You need a good number of theater districts -- and especially a couple early -- to power your social policy teching. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On October 25 2016 01:35 Godwrath wrote: Overlapping is important, rather than pure wide, to max out those policies bonus with adyacent, or 6 tiles away from each city. Other than that, it's just cogs all the way, and from there you add what you need. Production is a pita this game, and builders being limited doesn't help one single bit (and it's annoying as fuck imo). yea the builders being limited is extremely frustrating i did a cultural victory without truly knowing what i was doing since the game is still quite different from civ 5, there is a lot of subtility to master, specially when it comes to the first district emissary for the city state is an awesome mecanic imo at my first try diplomacy was useless the whole game for me | ||
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Yurie
12005 Posts
Theater ones are also more useful for them, so the extra slot could be used for that and trying to get all the great works one can to fill them up. Really like their concept since if they hit their curve they grow faster than anybody else. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On October 24 2016 23:12 xDaunt wrote: What's really strong are the timing/upgrade rushes using swordsmen or knights. Basically you build a lot of archers for defense and 3-4 warriors. Critically, you have to save your gold for the upgrades. Your third city should be dropped near iron so that you can mine it. Once iron is online, upgrade your warriors to swordsmen and go kill your neighbor. If no iron is nearby, then build heavy chariots and prepare go for the stirrups tech to upgrade them to knights. What's your army comp? I'm still doing the old Civ V ratio of 8:1ish ranged vs. melee, but I noticed the battering ram unit let's your melees attack through the city defense. Versus cities with difficult terrain, it takes a really long time to get all my archers set up so they can siege at once, just like in V, but there's no city bombardment without ancient walls so early war in general is easier. Also feel like the AI should be spamming way more units. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 25 2016 04:59 zulu_nation8 wrote: What's your army comp? I'm still doing the old Civ V ratio of 8:1ish ranged vs. melee, but I noticed the battering ram unit let's your melees attack through the city defense. Versus cities with difficult terrain, it takes a really long time to get all my archers set up so they can siege at once, just like in V, but there's no city bombardment without ancient walls so early war in general is easier. Also feel like the AI should be spamming way more units. About 3:2 range to melee, plus a battering ram. The archers aren't really there to attack the cities so much as to kill the enemy army. Swordsmen with a battering ram make taking cities almost trivial. And if you aren't seeing enough unit spam, try immortal. I outright die in about half my starts from either barb spam or a really nasty and early AI DoW. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On October 25 2016 07:38 xDaunt wrote: And if you aren't seeing enough unit spam, try immortal. I outright die in about half my starts from either barb spam or a really nasty and early AI DoW. Barb horses are soooooo OP! | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Any ideas? | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On October 25 2016 08:30 Orcasgt24 wrote: So I cannt load a game at all. It just stays at the screen with my leaders info forever. Any ideas? I have this problem too, it takes forever (like 10 mins) but it will eventually load if I wait long enough. Not sure what's wrong though. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On October 25 2016 08:30 Orcasgt24 wrote: So I cannt load a game at all. It just stays at the screen with my leaders info forever. Any ideas? yeah this only started happening today for me, takes about 10 mins, sometimes i can alt tab out edit: could be a problem with windows defender, try adding CivilizationVI.exe or the entire civ 6 folder to its exclusions list https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/5951id/psa_if_you_use_windows_defender_and_civ6/ | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 25 2016 08:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I really hope Firaxis finds a way to fix the wave of Missionaries the AI starts sending out in the early mid game it is insane and is almost impossible to stop in a sense. Either give Apostles, & Inquisitors more strength in home territory or something. Yeah, I agree. I abandoned my previously mentioned Arabia game just because dealing with the missionary and apostle spam was a chore. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Anyway I too had problems with games loading until I added it to Windows Security Essentials(im a W7 guy still), loaded really fast afterwards. Having a lot of fun so far though, great to experiment with districts and I think ill just go for a domination victory with someone or something. It also feels like that the AI is stronger at King difficulty then it was in Civ 5 (I could handle Immortal in civ 5) but I think that probably has to do with me not knowing wtf to do(appearently massive expansion is nice too). Feel like Warmongering is more fun too. Definitely have high hopes for this game, likely will also have some great mods. time to watch some Marbozir or some shit before going to bed lol. Also barbs, barbs are a fuckton more annoying at the start then they were in Civ5(mostly because the AI took care of them). | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8788 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
So much for peaceful expansion far away from rivals. Five cigs are acting like All Aztec All The Time. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 25 2016 09:56 Danglars wrote: Epic Pangaea as scythians. I fight a defensive war with slingers against early tag team England/Congo. Little bit of gold from peace. Not even ten turns later, its Germany/Brazil. This time I take Pedro's capital. But before his ally makes peace, here comes Greece/Arabia. And for some reason Japan too. I have zero infrastructure, two districts, barely breaking even on gold (pillage & sue for peace gpt keeping it up), and falling way behind in science. So much for peaceful expansion far away from rivals. Five cigs are acting like All Aztec All The Time. The AI civs are definitely very aggressive against players. You basically are forced to play the early conqueror game because you have no choice but to invest heavily in a military. If you don't put those units to use, you'll just fall behind. | ||
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