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Godwrath
Spain10165 Posts
On October 26 2016 05:08 zulu_nation8 wrote: According to reddit the district cost does not depend on how many cities you have. https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/5947kp/civ_vi_mechanics_how_district_production_cost/ So teching, outside of beelining is actually unrewarding. Interesting. | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Or as her citizens call it ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VXZyMZu.jpg) Then Greece declares I better not get cozy with the dear city Just before denouncing me for it (same turn) Buddies with another and dow in five turns The reckless provocation of setting a city-state free and their citizens being grateful! | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
For those attempting an archer to x-bow rush, it's important to get a trader asap early and have the 1/2 upgrade cost policy before doing so. There are a lot of negotiation bugs where you can get the AI to make trades vastly in your favor by changing your offer and hitting "what would make this work." It's not a big issue since you can choose not to exploit it, but I do hope they change it back to the old system where a resource is always 240 gold and decreases depending on what they think of you. I'm fairly certain REXing is impractical since barbs spawn way more often and building/buying a settler decreases your population, and early growth is always king. Though having a bigger empire is almost always better for cultural victories. I haven't found any wonders worth building, I built stonehenge in my first few games but have managed to found a religion, usually the last one, everytime without it. Petra is still strong but I can't imagine slow building it. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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iaretehnoob
Sweden741 Posts
edit: dead to warrior rush :D | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On October 26 2016 04:36 xDaunt wrote: Yeah, this is basically my experience. The only possible hitch with this strategy is getting access to iron. Strategic resources are very scarce in Civ 6. Rome is perfect for this build because you don't need the iron. I'm honestly happy that strategic resources are more scarce in the game. It makes for a more interesting game if you ask me | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On October 26 2016 21:07 WindWolf wrote: I'm honestly happy that strategic resources are more scarce in the game. It makes for a more interesting game if you ask me I mostly agree, though it sucks when you get neither Iron nor Nitrate anywhere close, it really sets you back in the midgame. There should be a tiny bit more of those. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
In Civ5 you could make them pretty good by buffing the normal tiles with buildings and then the bonus tiles make the city. Also AI is so useless, i dont know how someone can be happy with that work. I had a chess board with a build in microchip like 20 years ago that could play chess good enough to keep me entertained, noone can tell me my PC cant do calculations for competent AI army movement (much less complex than chess) in under a second. And its not better in economics or diplomacy or teching. I hope they dont pull a beyond earth and just say "meh whatever cu next game". | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On October 27 2016 01:48 LaNague wrote: they need to buff ocean tiles, its like plains that you cant build stuff on -.- In Civ5 you could make them pretty good by buffing the normal tiles with buildings and then the bonus tiles make the city. Also AI is so useless, i dont know how someone can be happy with that work. I had a chess board with a build in microchip like 20 years ago that could play chess good enough to keep me entertained, noone can tell me my PC cant do calculations for competent AI army movement (much less complex than chess) in under a second. And its not better in economics or diplomacy or teching. I hope they dont pull a beyond earth and just say "meh whatever cu next game". They won't. They'll fix problems in patches, the usual Civ way. Too much prestige riding on this. BE was toast before release. And most of the changes this time are generally quite good/interesting, once the AI stuff gets fixed. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On October 27 2016 01:48 LaNague wrote: noone can tell me my PC cant do calculations for competent AI army movement (much less complex than chess) in under a second. I agree that the ai could be better in civ but i don't think this is true. Chess is a much easier game to create an ai and people have worked on it since 50ies. We had ai for chess which could beat absolute best players in the world because it is one of the simpler games in the domain. I am not a good rts player but even i could beat any non-cheating ai in any game i have played so far. Civ has different maps, different techs and different army compositions in every single game while pursuing different agendas for ai players, so it is by no means an easy task. Pattern matching is much harder when you have so many stuff going around. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
I also don't like how weak the natural wonders are, I haven't looked through the complete list but most of the ones I found only gives bonuses to adjacent tiles. One important thing to note about districts is that the initial adjacency bonus cannot be increased later, once the district is placed, that's all the bonus it will get. I thought that I could give additional bonuses to my industrial districts by border popping and mining adjacent tiles. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18442 Posts
On October 27 2016 01:48 LaNague wrote: they need to buff ocean tiles, its like plains that you cant build stuff on -.- In Civ5 you could make them pretty good by buffing the normal tiles with buildings and then the bonus tiles make the city. Also AI is so useless, i dont know how someone can be happy with that work. I had a chess board with a build in microchip like 20 years ago that could play chess good enough to keep me entertained, noone can tell me my PC cant do calculations for competent AI army movement (much less complex than chess) in under a second. And its not better in economics or diplomacy or teching. I hope they dont pull a beyond earth and just say "meh whatever cu next game". You're wrong. Civ AI has to work with incomplete information, and the search space is larger than for chess even with complete information. I guess the AI could cheat and use complete information (what the player is doing and what all other AIs are doing) to make it a bit more competent, and that would still be a better solution than the extra settlers and production it gets, but it still doesn't solve the search space problem. Probably the best way to do AI for a game like Civ is to have it simply learn from the players, but that requires thousands and thousands of games to train the system to get a remotely decent AI. And it would need a multitude if you want the AI to play differently for every civ and take proper advantage of its UA/UU and have traits, etc. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On October 27 2016 02:28 zulu_nation8 wrote: One important thing to note about districts is that the initial adjacency bonus cannot be increased later, once the district is placed, that's all the bonus it will get. I thought that I could give additional bonuses to my industrial districts by border popping and mining adjacent tiles. Really? That sucks. Does it also mean it can't get decreased? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
About traders, it's highly efficient to fill up your trade route slots asap and to also have a monster capital, so that each trader you send to the capital from your expansions will grant those expos a huge boost in food/production/gold based on those values in the capital. In my first game I thought that those bonuses are what you bring to the city you send your trader to like in V. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 27 2016 03:14 zulu_nation8 wrote: About traders, it's highly efficient to fill up your trade route slots asap and to also have a monster capital, so that each trader you send to the capital from your expansions will grant those expos a huge boost in food/production/gold based on those values in the capital. In my first game I thought that those bonuses are what you bring to the city you send your trader to like in V. Well fuck me. | ||
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