EPTI dunno, i think the visions of Rocket is awesome but he is in the wrong team. I really love the Arma games for what they are, but Arma 3 with its current state in beta has still the same issues like before. The developers cant seem to fix it. The AI is really lacking still due to the heavy focus upon easy scripting. Weird gameplay like not beeing able to jump, you can only climb over which also looks really weird. There is no real fluid animations like modern games have today. Everything is so scripted in the Arma games. The only stuff that its good is the realism and scale of the game. They are 10 years behind in everything else.
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Avean
Norway449 Posts
I dunno, i think the visions of Rocket is awesome but he is in the wrong team. I really love the Arma games for what they are, but Arma 3 with its current state in beta has still the same issues like before. The developers cant seem to fix it. The AI is really lacking still due to the heavy focus upon easy scripting. Weird gameplay like not beeing able to jump, you can only climb over which also looks really weird. There is no real fluid animations like modern games have today. Everything is so scripted in the Arma games. The only stuff that its good is the realism and scale of the game. They are 10 years behind in everything else. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
There was so much fucking hype for the game, and now it looks like they're not really getting much interest anymore :/ | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
AI, UI and other aspects of that engine are borderline broken or so hard to repair, that it destroys the strength of the developers, which lie in creativity and not in grinding stupid repairs. It's such a shame, i'd be pumped to play this if it wasn't such a messy game. Which was fine for DayZ mod for a while, but that's it then. | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On September 11 2013 05:57 matiK23 wrote: Once again Destiny was right, but of course all the fanboys on r/dayz all lashed out on him. you wanna flesh this out a bit? destiny is pretty much incorrect on everything always, but it's really not fun or informative if you're going to post on teamliquid telling me to go to reddit if I want to comprehend your meaning. | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
On September 11 2013 06:10 TheExile19 wrote: you wanna flesh this out a bit? destiny is pretty much incorrect on everything always, but it's really not fun or informative if you're going to post on teamliquid telling me to go to reddit if I want to comprehend your meaning. Basically he created this whole thread on reddit saying rocket was going nowhere with this project and how they're not focusing on fixing bugs and instead designing clothes and playing with aesthetics which should be one of the last things debs should be doing. Then the hive mind goes ape shit saying its in beta, destiny responds to everyone and eventually rages, resulting in a ban from the subreddit. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On September 11 2013 06:17 matiK23 wrote: Basically he created this whole thread on reddit saying rocket was going nowhere with this project and how they're not focusing on fixing bugs and instead designing clothes and playing with aesthetics which should be one of the last things debs should be doing. Then the hive mind goes ape shit saying its in beta, destiny responds to everyone and eventually rages, resulting in a ban from the subreddit. Who really takes Destiny seriously though? His strategy is usually to create drama and yell louder than the other guy. And Reddit: just a site for casuals to discuss things, please don't think any posts there are authoritative. Please don't look at them as a hub for rational thought (although they aren't exempt of it) and instead as just a popular topic site. Edit: grammar. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Aside from that, I would be interested to see how many people bought Arma II because they wanted to play Arma II or because they wanted to play DayZ, and furthermore of those people who bought it for DayZ, who bothered to play Arma II for any length of time. I figure that the numbers should be around 30% (Arma II) and 70% DayZ, and the second statistic to be about 5%. God I just feel that although some people say the zombie genre is 'dying out', that it is far stronger than ever before and people are DESPERATE for good games to come out with zombies. It seems that games who get it right like L4D and Resi 4 are adored by the public. It sucks that the last good film with zombies was 28 days later or possibly .Rec. I haven't played the last of us but I have plans to play it, but I really enjoyed TWD, had a certain amount of fun with dead island...and I just feel there is so much more to be done!!!! My desire for there to be a standalone dayz or at least something that has fast zombies + good atmosphere + realistic experience is almost as high as my desire for a new shenmue game (which anyone who has checked my blogs will know is a very intense desire). | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On September 11 2013 06:47 sc4k wrote: Sounds like he was right on that though. Aside from that, I would be interested to see how many people bought Arma II because they wanted to play Arma II or because they wanted to play DayZ, and furthermore of those people who bought it for DayZ, who bothered to play Arma II for any length of time. I figure that the numbers should be around 30% (Arma II) and 70% DayZ, and the second statistic to be about 5%. God I just feel that although some people say the zombie genre is 'dying out', that it is far stronger than ever before and people are DESPERATE for good games to come out with zombies. It seems that games who get it right like L4D and Resi 4 are adored by the public. It sucks that the last good film with zombies was 28 days later or possibly .Rec. I haven't played the last of us but I have plans to play it, but I really enjoyed TWD, had a certain amount of fun with dead island...and I just feel there is so much more to be done!!!! My desire for there to be a standalone dayz or at least something that has fast zombies + good atmosphere + realistic experience is almost as high as my desire for a new shenmue game (which anyone who has checked my blogs will know is a very intense desire). Roger on that. I don't know if it still exists, but the funnest zombie game experience I have ever had was CS:Source with the Zombie mod script on. The one where the humans would have to make barricades with the furniture and then stun the zombies (who were hit-point buffed players as well, wielding only a knife) away as they tried to dismantle it. I've been looking for something similar to that with more polish (as it is just a mod script - no new models, etc.) since then but nothing ever came. Some of my best zombie game memories are from that and it is quite sad when you think about it as I have played most zombie-related games since. None of them were close to emulating that psychological dread and terror of the unknown but Day Z was close (because of player killers, not the zombies too). | ||
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spacemonkeyy
Australia477 Posts
As a community we all bitch and moan about how games are released before they are finished and then we pay money for expansion sets which are more finished products. So what if they take a bit more time- no one wants to play a slightly improved DayZ mod. | ||
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
On September 11 2013 06:47 sc4k wrote: Sounds like he was right on that though. Aside from that, I would be interested to see how many people bought Arma II because they wanted to play Arma II or because they wanted to play DayZ, and furthermore of those people who bought it for DayZ, who bothered to play Arma II for any length of time. I figure that the numbers should be around 30% (Arma II) and 70% DayZ, and the second statistic to be about 5%. God I just feel that although some people say the zombie genre is 'dying out', that it is far stronger than ever before and people are DESPERATE for good games to come out with zombies. It seems that games who get it right like L4D and Resi 4 are adored by the public. It sucks that the last good film with zombies was 28 days later or possibly .Rec. I haven't played the last of us but I have plans to play it, but I really enjoyed TWD, had a certain amount of fun with dead island...and I just feel there is so much more to be done!!!! My desire for there to be a standalone dayz or at least something that has fast zombies + good atmosphere + realistic experience is almost as high as my desire for a new shenmue game (which anyone who has checked my blogs will know is a very intense desire). i bought arma 2 for dayz, and i found an amazing game called arma 2!! | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
I still find it more then questionable that they're working on that graphics engine, it's causind more problems than it actually offers. This game, should it ever come out, might still have a chance though, as none of the other zombie games has been really successfull so far. | ||
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gTank
Austria2559 Posts
On November 11 2013 20:05 TigerKarl wrote: So meanwhile we've hard that they're still working on this. I still find it more then questionable that they're working on that graphics engine, it's causind more problems than it actually offers. This game, should it ever come out, might still have a chance though, as none of the other zombie games has been really successfull so far. What? L4D, Dead Island or even Zombies in Call of Duty don't ring a bell? (not to mention all the indie games) | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On November 11 2013 20:30 gTank wrote: What? L4D, Dead Island or even Zombies in Call of Duty don't ring a bell? (not to mention all the indie games) He's talking about zombie survival games obviously (War Z, Nether, ...). | ||
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Excludos
Norway8063 Posts
On November 11 2013 20:30 gTank wrote: What? L4D, Dead Island or even Zombies in Call of Duty don't ring a bell? (not to mention all the indie games) Those are all games where the zombies could have been switched out with clowns, and you'd have the exact same game. I refuse to believe you've ever tried dayz if those are the games you're comparing it to | ||
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gTank
Austria2559 Posts
I refuse to believe that this should be more fun than playing "clown" games (which is a stupid argument to begin with)- | ||
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On November 11 2013 20:30 gTank wrote: What? L4D, Dead Island or even Zombies in Call of Duty don't ring a bell? (not to mention all the indie games) Those are not zombie survival games but FPS games with zombies.... Play DayZ (or watch some game play) you'll understand  If you want difference i will tell you this. In Dead island, l4d, cod zombie => You shoot or you die (because you know... Zombie) In DayZ => If you shoot, you die :p => Because sound attracks them and they kill you. Stopped following this for a while. Do we have an estimated realse date ? | ||
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Excludos
Norway8063 Posts
On November 11 2013 23:11 FFW_Rude wrote: Those are not zombie survival games but FPS games with zombies.... Play DayZ (or watch some game play) you'll understand If you want difference i will tell you this. In Dead island, l4d, cod zombie => You shoot or you die (because you know... Zombie) In DayZ => If you shoot, you die :p => Because sound attracks them and they kill you. Stopped following this for a while. Do we have an estimated realse date ? No, nothing yet. Which is why this game is becoming a source of frustration rather than excitement atm. | ||
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