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Wow the shit i'm reading here is about equally as bad as the developers behind the standalone.
Everyone loved the potential the mod always had. Yet they decided to use the same fucking broken game engine for their standalone and they still can't solve all the retarded Problems that automatically Comes with that game engine.
They had all the trust in the world to design something really cool, to create a working game. But instead they went for the easy Money grabs and Keep developing against a unclimable wall, that is this horrible game engine, that will never allow them to live up to their own creativity.
Now you can Keep arguing your shitty elitism and random hating. the fuck do i care about a game that should have been great.
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The thing about DayZ mod is that it was fucked up beyond belief and had no right being as fun as it was. Standalone is almost as fucked up but it's missing the magic that makes you want to keep playing despite the problems. Some people may think the games are very similar, but to me they're quite different. People say the same about Dark Souls vs Dark Souls II, but I think the fist one is an all time classic while the second one is forgettable.
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The whole discussion reminds me of a comment I read on the steam forums recently. People were arguing about a game that got released and had some bugs in it. At one point of the posters stated how anyone could expect a game to be free of bugs at release. This comment just blew my mind. I don't understand how the gaming community changed so much to a point where it's totally tolerable for developers to release products that just aren't working the way they should be but still taking the full price for them. If they buy the latest model from BMW or Ford, is the level of toleration the same?
To get back to the topic: I am in no way connected to the DayZ franchise whatsoever. I bought the standalone initially when it was released cause the mod for Arma II (I think) was looking like fun on streams and I didn't want to trouble myself with installing mods etc. Then I played the standalone for a couple of hours and decided that it just wasn't ready for the mases. Now, after watching some streams again, I decided to give it another try. However, I did not notice any difference from like last year (?!). Zombies are still walking through walls, hitboxes are random and the performance is abysmal. I can only speak for myself but I find this completely untolerable. Crowdfunding is a nice way to get some help developing your product but if there is no notable difference from the inital release to 8-12 months later, I just think somebody is abusing the system. I mean common, Zombies are walking through walls...
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At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant
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On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant
Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished.
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just got the game.. PM me if you'd like to try and play together...hard to enjoy this when you have no friends to play with ...will be so much better when there is vehicles / faster ways of transportation lol
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On August 18 2014 13:08 GGzerG wrote:
just got the game.. PM me if you'd like to try and play together...hard to enjoy this when you have no friends to play with ...will be so much better when there is vehicles / faster ways of transportation lol
Yes. This game isn't very enjoyable as a solo experience atm. Get some friends together  Unfortunately I am on the wrong continent to join you 
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WELL ........ if you would like to play some DayZ on NA and do some survivalmode roleplaying and killing zombies let me know, I have been doing pretty good
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On August 18 2014 12:20 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished.
Keep drinking the kool aid.
I wouldn't be bitching if anything meaningful had been added since they released it. Still no vehicles, still easy as fuck to hack, and rocket is already bailing and no base building in sight.
I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right?
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On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 12:20 Excludos wrote:On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished. Keep drinking the kool aid. I wouldn't be bitching if anything meaningful had been added since they released it. Still no vehicles, still easy as fuck to hack, and rocket is already bailing and no base building in sight. I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right?
I'm going to be pretty upset if DayZ doesn't move forward, it has so much potential....people really hack a lot on DayZ though?
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On August 20 2014 06:39 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:On August 18 2014 12:20 Excludos wrote:On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished. Keep drinking the kool aid. I wouldn't be bitching if anything meaningful had been added since they released it. Still no vehicles, still easy as fuck to hack, and rocket is already bailing and no base building in sight. I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right? I'm going to be pretty upset if DayZ doesn't move forward, it has so much potential....people really hack a lot on DayZ though?
There was a rash of hacked infinite magazines, there is still some duping. I haven't actually seen a hacker yet. Battle-eye is banning across Arma 2 to Arma 3 now so get caught on one, get banned from everything.
Also DayZ is moving forward right now, just people that complain about it not moving forward are stuck in their own confirmation bias, and tend to cherry pick a lot.
And several people almost seem to be mad that people somehow enjoy the game.
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On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:
I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right?
I've been trying to come up with a response for the bolded insanity for a couple of minutes now, but I think you just might be a lost cause. I could mention microtransactions, practically fraudulent steam releases and slow, ugly gameplay but somehow I imagine you'll wrap it into me being a fanboy and not someone who's played them both and knows just how misguided your opinion is.
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On August 20 2014 08:48 TheExile19 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:
I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right?
I've been trying to come up with a response for the bolded insanity for a couple of minutes now, but I think you just might be a lost cause. I could mention microtransactions, practically fraudulent steam releases and slow, ugly gameplay but somehow I imagine you'll wrap it into me being a fanboy and not someone who's played them both and knows just how misguided your opinion is.
I'll admit that was an exaggeration. I stand by it being worse than the Vanilla mod though.
I got rolled up in the hype and coming from playing Epoch I was expecting a hell of a lot more. If some random dudes from the internet can make a mod as great as that I thought surely updates to the stand alone would come quickly from Bohemian.
They have stupid stuff like rag doll physics/horiculture prioritized before vehicles/base building/decent zombie ai. Today on epoch my group stole a rival clans base that was built around a castle and quickly began to refortify it. They tried to attack us with their clan and we called in our allies to help fight. There was a friendly fire accident between two friendly groups and now they are fighting. Politics/basebuilding makes the game a hell of a lot more fun. If all you can do is run around on the coast playing TDM for the next year+ while bohemian does fuck all with the game I can't see many people sticking around.
Btw Rockets road map has missed the first update by over 2 months at this point according to the DayZ wiki.
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On August 20 2014 07:26 Body_Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 06:39 GGzerG wrote:On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:On August 18 2014 12:20 Excludos wrote:On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished. Keep drinking the kool aid. I wouldn't be bitching if anything meaningful had been added since they released it. Still no vehicles, still easy as fuck to hack, and rocket is already bailing and no base building in sight. I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right? I'm going to be pretty upset if DayZ doesn't move forward, it has so much potential....people really hack a lot on DayZ though? There was a rash of hacked infinite magazines, there is still some duping. I haven't actually seen a hacker yet. Battle-eye is banning across Arma 2 to Arma 3 now so get caught on one, get banned from everything. Also DayZ is moving forward right now, just people that complain about it not moving forward are stuck in their own confirmation bias, and tend to cherry pick a lot. And several people almost seem to be mad that people somehow enjoy the game.
This is pretty much what the last two pages have boiled down to. Someone hating the game, someone else responding saying they don't, and the first poster hating on poster nr 2 simply because he's liking it.
Seriously, go through the last couple of pages, look at all the posts with personal attacks and name calling, and see what they all have in common: They don't like this game.
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On August 20 2014 19:32 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 07:26 Body_Shield wrote:On August 20 2014 06:39 GGzerG wrote:On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:On August 18 2014 12:20 Excludos wrote:On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished. Keep drinking the kool aid. I wouldn't be bitching if anything meaningful had been added since they released it. Still no vehicles, still easy as fuck to hack, and rocket is already bailing and no base building in sight. I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right? I'm going to be pretty upset if DayZ doesn't move forward, it has so much potential....people really hack a lot on DayZ though? There was a rash of hacked infinite magazines, there is still some duping. I haven't actually seen a hacker yet. Battle-eye is banning across Arma 2 to Arma 3 now so get caught on one, get banned from everything. Also DayZ is moving forward right now, just people that complain about it not moving forward are stuck in their own confirmation bias, and tend to cherry pick a lot. And several people almost seem to be mad that people somehow enjoy the game. This is pretty much what the last two pages have boiled down to. Someone hating the game, someone else responding saying they don't, and the first poster hating on poster nr 2 simply because he's liking it. Seriously, go through the last couple of pages, look at all the posts with personal attacks and name calling, and see what they all have in common: They don't like this game.
Who is name calling? People are mad about how slow the development has been. 8 months after the release and nothing done. They haven't even kept up with their road map. Just because it's an alpha doesn't mean it gets to sit and stagnate like it has. That's pretty understandable IMO.
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You were promised nothing. There was a big fat warning text on the game's steam page. I don't see the problem. Buying games that are still under development is a risk. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. But you have nobody to blame other than yourself if you're mad now.
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The only people that seem to be mad in this thread are the 3-4 of you that actually enjoy this game in the current state. Anytime someone else points out how unacceptable it is for the game to be where it is after two years of work, the few of you immediately start making personal attacks and spamming about how great the game is and how we're all just blind.
I give the 3-4 of you props for how devoted you are to this game, though. While the rest of us realize that the game is in terrible shape and hope for the developers to get their act together and improve it, you sit here praising it and saying the developers are doing great. Let's just hope they don't listen to people like you, otherwise the game still won't be finished a decade from now.
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On August 21 2014 04:47 Khalum wrote:
You were promised nothing. There was a big fat warning text on the game's steam page. I don't see the problem. Buying games that are still under development is a risk. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. But you have nobody to blame other than yourself if you're mad now.
So because it's an early release your not allowed to be unhappy with progress? Rocket put out a development road map which seems like a promise.
KSP is a pre release done properly. Fairly steady progress in all areas of a game built from nothing with much much smaller dev team.
Meanwhile DayZ was close to being finished as a mod it just needed touching up. 8 months later it's still worse than the vanilla. Last patch they added sharpening sticks and making fires. If anything the standalone has only gone backwards.
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On August 21 2014 06:17 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:47 Khalum wrote:
You were promised nothing. There was a big fat warning text on the game's steam page. I don't see the problem. Buying games that are still under development is a risk. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. But you have nobody to blame other than yourself if you're mad now. So because it's an early release your not allowed to be unhappy with progress? Rocket put out a development road map which seems like a promise. KSP is a pre release done properly. Fairly steady progress in all areas of a game built from nothing with much much smaller dev team. Meanwhile DayZ was close to being finished as a mod it just needed touching up. 8 months later it's still worse than the vanilla. Last patch they added sharpening sticks and making fires. If anything the standalone has only gone backwards.
What exactly is better about DayZ the modded version for arma2 ? The only thing I really would need at this point is a reliable vehicle so traveling is easier....At this point I hate to say it but I hate playing a running simulator... I love this game but I really want vehicles...should I just play the arma 2 mod? Is it that much better?
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On August 21 2014 04:14 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 19:32 Excludos wrote:On August 20 2014 07:26 Body_Shield wrote:On August 20 2014 06:39 GGzerG wrote:On August 19 2014 15:32 tokicheese wrote:On August 18 2014 12:20 Excludos wrote:On August 18 2014 11:50 tokicheese wrote:
At what point is enough enough? I play epoch all the time and it has everything I could ever want from DayZ. I can build amazing bases, shit loads of action from AI missions both dynamic and static and there are alliances between clans and massive unscripted clan wars.
Meanwhile the stand alone is a steaming pile of shit. Somehow it went backwards from the mods. Even Origins was 1000x better than the stand alone its a total joke.
It's like a fucking fashion game. All they release are shitty new skins. I saw a post on reddit about the "new fall line of clothing". That sure makes up for having 2 guns and a glitcher and easier to hack version of a fucking mod >.> Meanwhile vehicles are no where in sight, crafting is basically never going to happen at this point. GG bohemian you got my $20 but it won't happen again....... /rant Yeah. I also think enough is enough. These rants are boring as shit. This is the same game, mind you, that the developers specifically told people NOT to buy because it is nowhere near ready. The reason you can buy it at all is because there are thousands upon thousands of people who disagrees with you. Yet you buy an unfinished game, expect it to be polished, then go on a forum to rant about how the game isn't finished. Keep drinking the kool aid. I wouldn't be bitching if anything meaningful had been added since they released it. Still no vehicles, still easy as fuck to hack, and rocket is already bailing and no base building in sight. I bought KSP on early access and they have not been sitting twiddling there thumbs. I have played the game for less than a year and an incredible amount of progress has been made with a career mode being introduced with budgets, science, reputation, and contracts not mention all the optimization. Meanwhile DayZ standalone is still worse somehow than vanilla dayz mod maybe even worse than Warz... But with even rocket ditching the product I'm sure it's such a good sign right? I'm going to be pretty upset if DayZ doesn't move forward, it has so much potential....people really hack a lot on DayZ though? There was a rash of hacked infinite magazines, there is still some duping. I haven't actually seen a hacker yet. Battle-eye is banning across Arma 2 to Arma 3 now so get caught on one, get banned from everything. Also DayZ is moving forward right now, just people that complain about it not moving forward are stuck in their own confirmation bias, and tend to cherry pick a lot. And several people almost seem to be mad that people somehow enjoy the game. This is pretty much what the last two pages have boiled down to. Someone hating the game, someone else responding saying they don't, and the first poster hating on poster nr 2 simply because he's liking it. Seriously, go through the last couple of pages, look at all the posts with personal attacks and name calling, and see what they all have in common: They don't like this game. Who is name calling? People are mad about how slow the development has been. 8 months after the release and nothing done. They haven't even kept up with their road map. Just because it's an alpha doesn't mean it gets to sit and stagnate like it has. That's pretty understandable IMO.
I said read through the last couple of pages for a reason..not for you to guess otherwise.
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