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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 03 2013 07:43 GMT
#81
The jackpot doesn't cost anything besides the lower amount of gold you get per match. You get about 5000 gold for tier 5, which can be achieved with just 2 wins so it's definitely worth going for.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
BByte
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland49 Posts
September 03 2013 21:24 GMT
#82
Decided to try this out a few days ago. Started with Garant since rushing seems to be the way to go for fast gold / experience. After the campaign and a few duels I spent a few euros to afford one Serious Box. At least I got 1 Pao and 1 DA out of it.

Now I'm not quite sure what to save for: Seals for boxes probably, but perhaps the expansion boxes would be better? HotV at least has a ton of potentially useful cards: Caller of the Void, Hellfire Imp and some events. From the basic set I still need more Paos / DAs, and maybe a Ravager or two. VR also has Chaos Lacerators that could be useful.

So far I've been basically been playing 4/2/1 with Garant -- not that optimal. Phrias or Xorm would be a better option for my deck composition. I also have a few 3 mana spells in the deck, but so far there has been little need of those. I suspect that will change soon enough. Could also throw Fireballs back in now that I actually managed to get a second one from a pack.

I also need to check my cards from the other factions. I have a hunch I might be able to make a playable Necro deck soonish: got Atropos yesterday and have some other uncommons / rares at least as well. Probably totally missing some of the key cards though, and of course the hero.


At very low ELO the quality of play was pretty terrible so I got the 10 win streak achievement by winning my first 10 duels. At least after hitting 500+ ELO opponents there's a chance the match will be interesting. Too bad there seems to be a ton of people just lowering their rating, got an automatic turn 0 win 3 times today.

But that's not even the worst part. What's worse is that outside of the tournaments there seems to be very little reward in winning / playing well, or rather there's no real downside to losing. It'll just keep you at lower ELO where you can also grab quick wins. In fact, playing quick games would seem to be the optimal strategy to improve your collection.

Random lockups at the end of the match (usually happens if the opponent concedes) don't really help either.

Still, does anyone know how the duel rewards are calculated? (It seems to be rather hard to find good resources for this game.) I figured that there's a bonus for remaining hitpoints when you win, and some bonus for damage dealt, but are the formulas available somewhere and are there other bonuses?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 03 2013 21:32 GMT
#83
On September 04 2013 06:24 BByte wrote:
But that's not even the worst part. What's worse is that outside of the tournaments there seems to be very little reward in winning / playing well, or rather there's no real downside to losing. It'll just keep you at lower ELO where you can also grab quick wins. In fact, playing quick games would seem to be the optimal strategy to improve your collection.


Yep, that's exactly right. At least the tournaments are there for competitive games though.

You get 25 gold per damage dealt so 500 gold for a win. There are some wrinkles to this because I think you can get more if your opponent heals and you still get 500 for defeating one of the 18hp heroes.

Other than that, there are a few other bonus categories, but you only get the highest one. Critical strike is for dealing lots of damage in one hit, overwhelming forces seems to be related to the total number of cards(creatures?) played during the game, there's something like outstanding defense that I have to assume relates to your defense, and another one or two. No one really knows how they work as there isn't any involvement from the developers of the game publicly.

Experience is easier at least. You get 100xp for each of the first two turns and 30xp for each turn after. I think it caps at 590 total. You lose the 200xp from the first two turns if you surrender, and you get a 400xp bonus for winning.

After buying a Serious Box, I'd suggest spending your future seals on the expansions. Just alternate between the two or pick the one with more cards you want. Use your gold for reinforcement and heroic packs.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
September 04 2013 00:33 GMT
#84
On September 03 2013 14:49 heartlxp wrote:
ah thanks a ton, it'll be a while before i hit the tourneys, but hope to join you all soon!


Just join (enter) Jackpot every day it's up. There's an achievement with an reward for entering like 25 of them and it costs you nothing (you don't have to play in the jackpot tourney, just need to enter)
Logic fails because we are lazy.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 04 2013 22:38 GMT
#85
hey i just read through the top decks here:

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/792606-Decklists-by-Tier

do you guys run any of those? if so, any thoughts on tier placement?

also:

when i play garant rush, it usually comes down to "do i kill that creature or deal damage and try to win asap"

what do you think are more "active" decks...where you have to think a lot

i'm really beginning to like this game, about to pick up my first serious box
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 05 2013 00:06 GMT
#86
Unfortunately the decks where you have to think a lot require a stack of epics. Like Dhamiria Slowpoke, good luck getting 4 Thrones of Renewal. Rush decks usually want 4 dark assassins, callers of the void, paos. Have fun playing Haven without Wolf Captains too. Like that tier 1 Sandalphon deck would be wonderful to play, but getting 4 Wolf Captains (or even just 3) is an insane requirement, and the deck is very bad without them.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
September 05 2013 00:18 GMT
#87
Kelthor actually has a lot of interactions/you think a lot, and does not require an epic. It's not tier 1, but it's got a lot of cute tricksy plays, and personally is my favorite hero to play.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 01:05:43
September 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#88
That's true, though I only have 2 vulture riders. 1-2 more would be nice.

I put together that Kat OTK deck they have listed and am having some fun with it. Don't have 4 paos but they're not that important. It could cost me the game against another OTK/stall deck, but oh well.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 05 2013 01:47 GMT
#89
hmm that kelthor decks looks interesting, although i'm not sure how it beats the stall decks

do you guys think the stall decks are fun to play? they seem pretty boring (i played a lot of blue in MTG, and recently realized they're pretty anti-fun for the game)

in other news....i just pulled my 3rd chaos imp lol, are these the worst epics or what?

guess i'm sticking w/ random garant for a while :D
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 05 2013 02:17 GMT
#90
The Kat OTK isn't too bad because you usually win around turn 8-10. Those Ariana mill decks and slowpoke decks that don't make any attempt to win until your library is gone are incredibly annoying though.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 02:25:43
September 05 2013 02:23 GMT
#91
The Kelthor deck used to beat the stall decks when I played him by just strategically killing your own stuff, that didn't do anything in the matchup, so you didn't get owned by the throne + tower combo. You also generously gained enrage counters while doing this, and dumping useless cards like sac altar out of your hand that wouldn't normally have a target in the matchup.(otherwise your hand would get clogged up, and you would just die)

At this point, the slow decks have moved away from relying on tower, and your basically reliant on cosmic balance and a mixture of pressure and luck.

Like I said, Kelthor not the best of decks in the current meta, just happens to be my personal favorite hero.


The blue decks in MTG are only boring when their intention is just to counter every single card their opponent players, otherwise the interaction is fun, imo. I wouldn't say that the slow/combo decks are extremely OP, but they do tend to create extremely long and dreadfully boring games. However, it does do something for the game, which is mix up the metagame, and crush the anti creature decks, making it so the field has a variety of archetypes being played instead of just aggro vs control. The combo/mill factor needs too be accounted for when deckbuilding / playing. The really slow decks are really boring to play against though, especially since you sometimes have a chance to win if they miss on drawing a sweeper/altar of shadows on just one turn.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
September 05 2013 05:56 GMT
#92
Well I've been screwing around trying to make 3-4 different factions work with the crappy cards I have, then I just decided to throw every necropolis creature I have (around 80) into a deck and run with it. Sadly it's been giving me the best results out of anything I tried....
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 05 2013 06:57 GMT
#93
hehe i keep hearing necro is OP

you can make your deck here and look for ideas if you'd like:

http://www.mmdoc.net/decks/

i think the general sentiment is:

1. start inferno
2. farm a ton
3. ?????
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#94
hey guys, i just opened my box and got my 4th pao and first DA

should i keep getting reinforcement packs with gold?

do i ever buy emilio's or the VR pack?
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
September 07 2013 03:54 GMT
#95
New code for HotV premium pack: MMDOC-H4S-THE-B3ST-FANS
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
September 07 2013 03:56 GMT
#96
On September 07 2013 10:59 heartlxp wrote:
hey guys, i just opened my box and got my 4th pao and first DA

should i keep getting reinforcement packs with gold?

do i ever buy emilio's or the VR pack?


Wow you have 4 Paos?! I've only gotten 1 so far.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 07 2013 04:42 GMT
#97
well i guess they even out the 4 chaos imps and the 6 stone skins i got lol
Loving Memory
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 05:22:57
September 07 2013 05:17 GMT
#98
So I started Necropolis, and I'm struggling with just about everything. The campaign is insane, the basic computer is insane, etc. I feel like I just end up with too many spells and too few monsters to block damage. Anyone have any advice? Is there a way for me to actually earn some cash? I only have ~5000 gold atm.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
September 07 2013 05:22 GMT
#99
On September 07 2013 14:17 Loving Memory wrote:
So I started Necropolis, and I'm struggling with just about everything. The campaign is insane, the basic computer is insane, etc. I feel like I just end up with too many spells and too few monsters to block damage. Anyone have any advice? Is there a way for me to buy another deck?


If you're super new, you could probably just make a new account for a new deck. Redeem all of the codes and you should have plenty to work with.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
September 07 2013 19:30 GMT
#100
Pretty much this ^. I wasn't aware of the codes at first so I made another account cause I figured the Necro deck kind of sucked and then realized about all the codes T_T

Helped out a bunch though.
Twitter: @KingKosi
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