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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
February 27 2016 10:27 GMT
#3301
This method works in the current patch https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/revoking-privilegia-by-1530.910305/
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 27 2016 10:39 GMT
#3302
On February 27 2016 19:27 nimbim wrote:
This method works in the current patch https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/revoking-privilegia-by-1530.910305/

man i wanna try that.
thats fucking silly
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-27 21:37:30
February 27 2016 21:34 GMT
#3303
I tried it, could have went better but i was tired.
hardest part is forcing the union on poland tbh.

then hoping muscovy doesnt blob too hard

if you can pass the first 2 reforms before reformation id wager you need 125 provinces to be able to remove and re-add to revoke by 1530 or earlier.

you start with 50 or so so thats kinda tough i think
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 27 2016 22:40 GMT
#3304
fuck regencies.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-29 20:07:27
February 29 2016 19:12 GMT
#3305
Rigans rule the world.

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I underestimated just how powerful tier 3 admin efficiency is - I probably took 2000 dev in the last 20 years - but still, fuck regencies.
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
March 01 2016 23:41 GMT
#3306
Congratz. Nice CN names too! And speaking of hating the game sometimes, I just wasted 15 years tanking max call for peace but the goddamn inheritance didn't trigger.
Banishment
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany102 Posts
March 02 2016 01:01 GMT
#3307
I tried the Lithuania thingy, several times..... Its hard as fuck.

First you need to hope that poland doesnt ally bohemia if so: Restart. Tons of other stuff too which ran ruin your early game. Claiming poland is the easy part though. Afterwards, you have to hope that you can crush muscovy (guy is stronger than you, there is a chance he allies the Ottomans....) AND you can become emperor. I managed to become emperor in one game, muscovy was alive and kicking though. Last game i crushed muscovy, everything looks finde but i cant become emperror. Bohemia ate a part of hungary and refuses to vote for anybody but himself, the palatinate had somebody else voting for him and so on..... The palatinate gets elected immediately chooses a seventh elector after trier got annexed and now has 4 electors voting for him. There is NO WAY youre going to beat them if they are allied with the electors. Youre not part of the HRE, mind you. You basically have to hope for an aggressive or very weak austria that ALSO DOESNT FUCKING GET BURGUNDIAN INHERITANCE which happened in another game.....

All in all its a tiresome act to make this work. Everything must go according to plan. I made a couple of mistakes in the first few runs, but the last one was just me being unlucky.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 01:31:30
March 02 2016 01:28 GMT
#3308
On March 02 2016 08:41 nothingmuch wrote:
Congratz. Nice CN names too! And speaking of hating the game sometimes, I just wasted 15 years tanking max call for peace but the goddamn inheritance didn't trigger.

inheritance is frustrating, sometimes it fires in the weirdest situations too (Burgundy crushing England with +50 warscore)

First you need to hope that poland doesnt ally bohemia if so: Restart.

Will Hungary not accept a CtA against Poland even if you promise them land?

If you're going for optimality then yeah should restart if Poland ally Bohemia but Lithuania starts with enough dev to outright beat Pol+Bohemia at game start with correct fights I imagine (Lith ~40k, Pol+vassals 25k early game, Bohemia with 20k~)

Assuming that Muscovy DOWs Novgorod first year, dogpile scenarios should favor you too
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 02 2016 05:34 GMT
#3309
On March 02 2016 10:28 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 08:41 nothingmuch wrote:
Congratz. Nice CN names too! And speaking of hating the game sometimes, I just wasted 15 years tanking max call for peace but the goddamn inheritance didn't trigger.

inheritance is frustrating, sometimes it fires in the weirdest situations too (Burgundy crushing England with +50 warscore)

Show nested quote +
First you need to hope that poland doesnt ally bohemia if so: Restart.

Will Hungary not accept a CtA against Poland even if you promise them land?

If you're going for optimality then yeah should restart if Poland ally Bohemia but Lithuania starts with enough dev to outright beat Pol+Bohemia at game start with correct fights I imagine (Lith ~40k, Pol+vassals 25k early game, Bohemia with 20k~)

Assuming that Muscovy DOWs Novgorod first year, dogpile scenarios should favor you too

but with 3 advisors + your starting army you're in the negative bad.

you cant even get hungary to help you since you always get rival'd by them

luckily i restart until poland or bohemia rival each other since poland has high enough relations with you, you can probably ally 2 of their rivals and still get it.
also not for certain but im sure poland still gets the "we need a jaglieon!" thing even if youre a player, cause it never fails they get my dynasty, just dont pu you obviously
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
March 02 2016 13:40 GMT
#3310
On March 02 2016 10:28 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 08:41 nothingmuch wrote:
Congratz. Nice CN names too! And speaking of hating the game sometimes, I just wasted 15 years tanking max call for peace but the goddamn inheritance didn't trigger.

inheritance is frustrating, sometimes it fires in the weirdest situations too (Burgundy crushing England with +50 warscore)


Yeah, in my Novgorod campaign Burgundy full occupied France at the start of the game and I was already looking forward to an interesting western Europe, but then inheritance triggered (pre 1450) and gave all that tasty land to... Bohemia. Made for some nice coring costs throughout that region (not that I cared, was going for Frozen Assets). I like the randomness of MTTH but with events that have such an early expiration date it's really annoying when you streamline all your efforts into something that just doesn't happen due to RNG.

On a happier note: next expansion announced- Mare Nostrum! Maybe they'll finally be able to make naval warfare interesting/fun/predictable and the AI not completely horrible at it.
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
March 02 2016 15:40 GMT
#3311
On March 02 2016 10:01 Banishment wrote:
I tried the Lithuania thingy, several times..... Its hard as fuck.

Afterwards, you have to hope that you can crush muscovy (guy is stronger than you, there is a chance he allies the Ottomans....) AND you can become emperor.


Er in what world is Muscovy stronger than PLC ? Not to mention that you can easily ally Novgorod or the Hordes.
Muscovy can only ally Ottomans if they share you as a rival so that is entirely in your hands too.

Becoming Emperor is always somewhat tricky because you can't influence when the Emperor dies (my last HRE game he took an eternity to die and with some bad luck on my part made me miss the inheritance) and if he gets called to the defense of the empire and wins there's no way to get any electors on your side (maybe not even with vassalizing).

The early diplomatic situation should present no problems at all, only awesome opportunities- 3 Interregnums in close proximity and Lithuania has the most development (which decides whose heir gets on the throne in case of several marriages) in Europe. Also you should be able to ally Austria, making any early wars trivial.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 03 2016 05:46 GMT
#3312
On March 03 2016 00:40 nothingmuch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:01 Banishment wrote:
I tried the Lithuania thingy, several times..... Its hard as fuck.

Afterwards, you have to hope that you can crush muscovy (guy is stronger than you, there is a chance he allies the Ottomans....) AND you can become emperor.


Er in what world is Muscovy stronger than PLC ? Not to mention that you can easily ally Novgorod or the Hordes.
Muscovy can only ally Ottomans if they share you as a rival so that is entirely in your hands too.

Becoming Emperor is always somewhat tricky because you can't influence when the Emperor dies (my last HRE game he took an eternity to die and with some bad luck on my part made me miss the inheritance) and if he gets called to the defense of the empire and wins there's no way to get any electors on your side (maybe not even with vassalizing).

The early diplomatic situation should present no problems at all, only awesome opportunities- 3 Interregnums in close proximity and Lithuania has the most development (which decides whose heir gets on the throne in case of several marriages) in Europe. Also you should be able to ally Austria, making any early wars trivial.

I didnt have any trouble getting emperor, it was surviving with your shitty income + the poland war draining you thats hard.

in my most recent game i tried 3-4 times to beat PLC as Muscovy/russia but god damn its hard
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
March 03 2016 11:12 GMT
#3313
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there are very few problems in this game that cannot be solved by no-CBing granada
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
March 03 2016 19:14 GMT
#3314
Granada and Byzantium are just begging to be noCb'ed. Easy prey, hardly any AE with anyone of consequence, great location for future expansion- all for 200 Adm/75 Dip ? Yes, please!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14060 Posts
March 03 2016 23:40 GMT
#3315
On February 27 2016 13:17 SKC wrote:
Is that the protectorate abuse one? I dont remember if he recorded the first eu4 one with the infinite money and exiled troops exploit.

They were one and the same. The exiled troops were able to loot in china without being able to take any damage therefore tearing apart china way too early. Also infinite money and manpower from mission list abuse.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 04 2016 00:00 GMT
#3316
On March 04 2016 08:40 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 13:17 SKC wrote:
Is that the protectorate abuse one? I dont remember if he recorded the first eu4 one with the infinite money and exiled troops exploit.

They were one and the same. The exiled troops were able to loot in china without being able to take any damage therefore tearing apart china way too early. Also infinite money and manpower from mission list abuse.

I was thinking of this one, where he starts by going to the americas:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-three-mountains-a-ryukyu-aar.709144/
But yeah there is no video of it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 04 2016 08:17 GMT
#3317
so without some sort of abuse like that three mountains must be impossible right?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
March 04 2016 15:49 GMT
#3318
Depends on your definition of "abuse". There's such a huge scale of (for lack of a better word) "legitness" from no trucebreak/overextension and not abusing the stupidity of the AI over "accidental computer crashes" in various cases of comet/shitty heir/recency etc. to abusing bugs/missions or even using the console/hacks whatever.

Obviously The Three Mountains is the hardest achievement by quite a large margin so it's probably impossible without some "tricks".
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
March 04 2016 20:36 GMT
#3319
Depends on whether you 1tag or do it as a normal WC as well. Normal WC should be doable without too much abuse.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
March 05 2016 11:08 GMT
#3320
Well, I still have not seen 1.15 TTM (domination or one-tag), though of course domination is possible

Overseas core nerf really did shaft all the non-reduced core cost tags though.
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