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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 14 2016 01:46 GMT
#3261
yes, you get massive -IA from heretic princes so after reformation its a real pain to pass reforms

[image loading]

backwards tech - the game
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 14 2016 01:54 GMT
#3262
On February 14 2016 10:46 419 wrote:
yes, you get massive -IA from heretic princes so after reformation its a real pain to pass reforms

[image loading]

backwards tech - the game

i did it but you have to force convert everyone, even declaring wars on their allies during truces to convert them.

and eating 1-2 provinces out of big countries but keeping them alive is a good strat, so you can force convert later
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 14 2016 09:47 GMT
#3263
i think im gonna give up on germany

every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
February 14 2016 11:46 GMT
#3264
On February 14 2016 18:47 arb wrote:
i think im gonna give up on germany

every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl


I would do a Brandenburg -> Prussia -> Germany run. The beginning can be a bit tricky, but once you form Prussia you should be set to be able to form Germany
mind mind mind mind mind mind
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 14 2016 12:26 GMT
#3265
On February 14 2016 20:46 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 18:47 arb wrote:
i think im gonna give up on germany

every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl


I would do a Brandenburg -> Prussia -> Germany run. The beginning can be a bit tricky, but once you form Prussia you should be set to be able to form Germany

Once you form Prussia you'll roll everyone with your space marines.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 13:06:11
February 14 2016 13:04 GMT
#3266
Could use some advice. Here's the map. Goal is to form Italy - for this I will need to have a straight chain of provinces from Italy to Anatolia, thus Austria (allied to PLC / GBR) and Tuscany (allied to France) are non-negotiable targets eventually. I think my 4th idea group choice is pretty critical. I failed snowballing due to mismanaging some coalitions, so I'm not at a point where I can comfortably roll European majors - in addition France and Russia had incredibly strong performances this game. I'm allied to PLC so I'm a defensively OK position, but need to start picking off some Italian objective soon:

[image loading]

Najd, Liang, U-Tsang, and Syria are vassals. I will probably consume Liang first.

me: ~103 regiments / 111 FL
Russia: ~148 regiments
France: ~128 regiments
PLC: ~139 regiments
Austria: ~67 regiments
Tuscany: ~50 regiments

Here are the choices. Current picks are religious / influence / administrative.

diplomatic:

+ finish off vassal feed jobs in fewer wars, extra diplomat so I can double annex vassals.

offensive:

+ solid all around mil group

defensive:

+ lets me gouge morale, a bit more early power than offensive

quantity:

+ I need force limits. I can comfortably afford to full merc on my current FL but that only works for bashing low-tech scrubs.
+ nice policy with religious (10 morale 2.5 disc)
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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
February 14 2016 13:32 GMT
#3267
Since you want the extra forcelimit and need to fight a lot of western tech enemies, offensive seems like the obvious choice. The only downside I see is that it will take a while to fill a mil idea group with indian tech.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
February 14 2016 17:13 GMT
#3268
On February 14 2016 08:55 arb wrote:

you cant really do shit if france unions austria the hre is usually a lost cause

you can wait till the 30yw starts, and in themean time force convert everyone you can, if you get enough as catholic i think they proclaim the diet of wein and makes catholic the religion

but with austria force unioned its basically a done game lol


Well it's still rather early in the game and I am allied to France and do some good colonializing because spain and portugal didn't bother for some reason.
I also think that Austria might want to break free at some point because they are also very strong. Ottomans and Commonwealth are also quite powerful so Austria can potentially find some good allies.
Respect my authoritah!!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 15 2016 00:13 GMT
#3269
On February 14 2016 20:46 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 18:47 arb wrote:
i think im gonna give up on germany

every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl


I would do a Brandenburg -> Prussia -> Germany run. The beginning can be a bit tricky, but once you form Prussia you should be set to be able to form Germany

so far ive vassal fed anhalt a bunch of provinces, vassal'd the teuts, annexed pom and have pretty good control in northern germany

unsure of ideas, ive went influence -> offensive(its only 1510 or so) been keeping emperor to avoid unlawful territory, so im probably gonna hold off on making prussia for a while.

im thinking influence offensive maybe defensive for the army tradition, quality and quantity.
then the other ideas idk
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 01:33:51
February 15 2016 10:09 GMT
#3270
Think i'll actually make germany this time, done a lot of vassal feeding, and making austria return cores to vassals so i can really austria so make sure no one coalitions me

good shit.

only lacking 2 cores, 1 austria has the other is cologne with no allies, and my vassal bavaria has the other 2.

probably feed augsburg and then annex and that'll be that

[image loading]

finally managed to do it, coalitioned by everyone but im sure with france i can beat all of them so whatever

sitting at 128~ FL and 90 Army tradition which is cool af.
only took like 50 tries
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 16 2016 19:54 GMT
#3271
I forgot just how broken Western techgroup can be. Trying One Faith run with Riga. Really explosive start, manage to grab every single Baltic trade province, and Sjalland:

[image loading]

and yeah, Novgorod is my vassal.

?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 19:47:50
February 20 2016 19:45 GMT
#3272
[image loading]

Overseas core discount + permanent claims = tearing up India disgustingly fast

without administrative efficiency, I can eat 100 development for 150 ADM

Mughal flavor events are pretty great too
?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 20 2016 22:38 GMT
#3273
pls tell me youre gonna do that rofl
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Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
February 21 2016 02:58 GMT
#3274
Playing Jianzhou, just annexed Haixi and Yeren, got warned by Ming (1455). What the hell do I do now?
8
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 21 2016 08:54 GMT
#3275
On February 21 2016 11:58 Schmieds wrote:
Playing Jianzhou, just annexed Haixi and Yeren, got warned by Ming (1455). What the hell do I do now?

attack someone who isnt mings neighbor
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
February 22 2016 01:06 GMT
#3276
On February 21 2016 04:45 419 wrote:
[image loading]

Overseas core discount + permanent claims = tearing up India disgustingly fast

without administrative efficiency, I can eat 100 development for 150 ADM

Mughal flavor events are pretty great too


How did you manage to switch to one of the required cultures? All provinces of said cultures are in asia afaik ?
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3271 Posts
February 22 2016 01:24 GMT
#3277
On February 14 2016 20:46 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 18:47 arb wrote:
i think im gonna give up on germany

every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl


I would do a Brandenburg -> Prussia -> Germany run. The beginning can be a bit tricky, but once you form Prussia you should be set to be able to form Germany

Tbh I think forming Prussia early on as Brandenburg is a mistake 90% of the time. PLC is usually a good ally and often hates Denmark, so using them as war-dogs to kill Denmark after you took Lübeck and possibly Hamburg is an easy way to build up a power base.
Protestantism usually kills your alliances with PLC and Austria and taking the provinces you need for Prussia decision will guaranteed make PLC hostile. It's also a lot easier to become emperor as catholic.
Once you are strong enough to beat up the PLC the game is over anyways.
low gravity, yes-yes!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 22 2016 02:05 GMT
#3278
On February 22 2016 10:24 Blackfeather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 20:46 JazVM wrote:
On February 14 2016 18:47 arb wrote:
i think im gonna give up on germany

every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl


I would do a Brandenburg -> Prussia -> Germany run. The beginning can be a bit tricky, but once you form Prussia you should be set to be able to form Germany

Tbh I think forming Prussia early on as Brandenburg is a mistake 90% of the time. PLC is usually a good ally and often hates Denmark, so using them as war-dogs to kill Denmark after you took Lübeck and possibly Hamburg is an easy way to build up a power base.
Protestantism usually kills your alliances with PLC and Austria and taking the provinces you need for Prussia decision will guaranteed make PLC hostile. It's also a lot easier to become emperor as catholic.
Once you are strong enough to beat up the PLC the game is over anyways.

you should be able to get emperor early and you need to make sure you keep it and expand as rapidly as possible. Honestly i kept Austria as an ally my entire game until i annexed Bavaria tbh, constantly keep relations with them high and do not do not do not join any leagues that will 100% make them unally and rape you probably. Honestly i held off making Prussia until like 1600 almost, after the Diet caused me to lose emperor i believe. You should take the provinces from the Toots by forcing Poland into war with you and giving them the provinces you don't need, (kulm/netze?) all while expanding west and southwest. I did a lot of vassal feeding since i was emperor to not have to spend money coring but thats just me.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-22 02:20:58
February 22 2016 02:16 GMT
#3279
I honestly think unless the diplo configuration is really really bad (such that catholics are guaranteed to get dumpstered), catholic is just so good for conquest oriented games that I don't see the point of forming Prussia as Brandenburg

How did you manage to switch to one of the required cultures? All provinces of said cultures are in asia afaik ?

You can spread a certain culture to its adjacent provinces, allowing Uzbek to get to European province within ~4 culture converts.

Here's another interesting fact. Mughals decision doesn't move your capital, and there is a decision to automatically move your capital to Delhi (in Asia). I don't think it's competitive with horde WC tech right now but that's incredibly powerful potential to overseas core both Europe and Asia, only Ottomans and Poland have similar decisions, Ottomans value the early empire rank too much, and Poland is not a very good WC idea set.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-22 03:32:20
February 22 2016 03:18 GMT
#3280
On February 22 2016 11:16 419 wrote:
I honestly think unless the diplo configuration is really really bad (such that catholics are guaranteed to get dumpstered), catholic is just so good for conquest oriented games that I don't see the point of forming Prussia as Brandenburg

Show nested quote +
How did you manage to switch to one of the required cultures? All provinces of said cultures are in asia afaik ?

You can spread a certain culture to its adjacent provinces, allowing Uzbek to get to European province within ~4 culture converts.

Here's another interesting fact. Mughals decision doesn't move your capital, and there is a decision to automatically move your capital to Delhi (in Asia). I don't think it's competitive with horde WC tech right now but that's incredibly powerful potential to overseas core both Europe and Asia, only Ottomans and Poland have similar decisions, Ottomans value the early empire rank too much, and Poland is not a very good WC idea set.

It probably is not that great since you do get the same ideas regardless, i just like making Prussia, since i think you need konigsburg to make Germany anyway

that and i like Reformed stuff better than catholic tbh
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