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On February 22 2016 11:16 419 wrote:I honestly think unless the diplo configuration is really really bad (such that catholics are guaranteed to get dumpstered), catholic is just so good for conquest oriented games that I don't see the point of forming Prussia as Brandenburg Show nested quote +How did you manage to switch to one of the required cultures? All provinces of said cultures are in asia afaik ?
You can spread a certain culture to its adjacent provinces, allowing Uzbek to get to European province within ~4 culture converts. Here's another interesting fact. Mughals decision doesn't move your capital, and there is a decision to automatically move your capital to Delhi (in Asia). I don't think it's competitive with horde WC tech right now but that's incredibly powerful potential to overseas core both Europe and Asia, only Ottomans and Poland have similar decisions, Ottomans value the early empire rank too much, and Poland is not a very good WC idea set.
I've never heard of that mechanic- does it come with Cossacks (which I don't have yet) ?
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On February 22 2016 11:05 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 10:24 Blackfeather wrote:On February 14 2016 20:46 JazVM wrote:On February 14 2016 18:47 arb wrote:
i think im gonna give up on germany
every game some random dumb bullshit to fuck me rofl I would do a Brandenburg -> Prussia -> Germany run. The beginning can be a bit tricky, but once you form Prussia you should be set to be able to form Germany Tbh I think forming Prussia early on as Brandenburg is a mistake 90% of the time. PLC is usually a good ally and often hates Denmark, so using them as war-dogs to kill Denmark after you took Lübeck and possibly Hamburg is an easy way to build up a power base. Protestantism usually kills your alliances with PLC and Austria and taking the provinces you need for Prussia decision will guaranteed make PLC hostile. It's also a lot easier to become emperor as catholic. Once you are strong enough to beat up the PLC the game is over anyways. you should be able to get emperor early and you need to make sure you keep it and expand as rapidly as possible. Honestly i kept Austria as an ally my entire game until i annexed Bavaria tbh, constantly keep relations with them high and do not do not do not join any leagues that will 100% make them unally and rape you probably. Honestly i held off making Prussia until like 1600 almost, after the Diet caused me to lose emperor i believe. You should take the provinces from the Toots by forcing Poland into war with you and giving them the provinces you don't need, (kulm/netze?) all while expanding west and southwest. I did a lot of vassal feeding since i was emperor to not have to spend money coring but thats just me.
Every HRE start is (or at least should be) the same as long as you're a monarchy: 1. become emperor. 2. trigger burgundian inheritance 3. release a burgundian province, vassalize and get the french burgundian lands back too 4. be the richest and biggest nation in Europe without getting any AE whatsoever. Easy mode blobbing from then on.
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On February 22 2016 19:52 nothingmuch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 11:16 419 wrote:I honestly think unless the diplo configuration is really really bad (such that catholics are guaranteed to get dumpstered), catholic is just so good for conquest oriented games that I don't see the point of forming Prussia as Brandenburg How did you manage to switch to one of the required cultures? All provinces of said cultures are in asia afaik ?
You can spread a certain culture to its adjacent provinces, allowing Uzbek to get to European province within ~4 culture converts. Here's another interesting fact. Mughals decision doesn't move your capital, and there is a decision to automatically move your capital to Delhi (in Asia). I don't think it's competitive with horde WC tech right now but that's incredibly powerful potential to overseas core both Europe and Asia, only Ottomans and Poland have similar decisions, Ottomans value the early empire rank too much, and Poland is not a very good WC idea set. I've never heard of that mechanic- does it come with Cossacks (which I don't have yet) ?
yeah, it looks like expansion feature:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-october-8th.885819/
Every HRE start is (or at least should be) the same as long as you're a monarchy: 1. become emperor. 2. trigger burgundian inheritance 3. release a burgundian province, vassalize and get the french burgundian lands back too 4. be the richest and biggest nation in Europe without getting any AE whatsoever. Easy mode blobbing from then on.
alternatively you can devour lands outside the empire for significantly less AE, but becoming emperor is one of the more broken power plays in the game for sure
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On February 22 2016 21:00 419 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 19:52 nothingmuch wrote:On February 22 2016 11:16 419 wrote:I honestly think unless the diplo configuration is really really bad (such that catholics are guaranteed to get dumpstered), catholic is just so good for conquest oriented games that I don't see the point of forming Prussia as Brandenburg How did you manage to switch to one of the required cultures? All provinces of said cultures are in asia afaik ?
You can spread a certain culture to its adjacent provinces, allowing Uzbek to get to European province within ~4 culture converts. Here's another interesting fact. Mughals decision doesn't move your capital, and there is a decision to automatically move your capital to Delhi (in Asia). I don't think it's competitive with horde WC tech right now but that's incredibly powerful potential to overseas core both Europe and Asia, only Ottomans and Poland have similar decisions, Ottomans value the early empire rank too much, and Poland is not a very good WC idea set. I've never heard of that mechanic- does it come with Cossacks (which I don't have yet) ? yeah, it looks like expansion feature: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-october-8th.885819/Show nested quote +Every HRE start is (or at least should be) the same as long as you're a monarchy: 1. become emperor. 2. trigger burgundian inheritance 3. release a burgundian province, vassalize and get the french burgundian lands back too 4. be the richest and biggest nation in Europe without getting any AE whatsoever. Easy mode blobbing from then on. alternatively you can devour lands outside the empire for significantly less AE, but becoming emperor is one of the more broken power plays in the game for sure
Oh sure, I think a couple of pages back I posted how ridiculous of a start it is to drag the Ottomans into a defensive war with half of Europe by just noCB vassalizing Byz right as Otto attacks for City of Worlds Desire.
Playing in the HRE is just one of those things where newer players struggle a lot and once you pass a certain threshold of game knowledge it immediately turns into roflstomp easy mode.
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why did I sign up to do this
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175% OE is a lot  I hope You dont have any remaining OE from earlier conquests.
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Whenever I take more than 150% OE I always think: "I am so big now I can manage that pretty easily". 2 months later 10 stacks of 40 rebels pop up.
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It's not a question of size but of revolt reduction modifiers. -2 unrest from humanist + tolerance of the true faith/heretics/heathens and others from national ideas or policies make all the difference between 10 stacks in 4 months and 2 stacks in 8.
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I know how revolts work. Still size in EU4 basically makes everything easier.
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On February 26 2016 21:50 Silvanel wrote:175% OE is a lot I hope You dont have any remaining OE from earlier conquests.
I needed to finish off Asia ASAP so I can use the Mughals capital move decision to overseas core Europe.
There was a 1600% warscore Ming, started removal process around ~1675, so far trucebroke 4 times. I would pretty much farm 200 papal influence then stab up every trucebreak. In theory I could trucebreak at -2 but that's incredibly dangerous since Mughals lacks the -unrest to safely do that and take 170% OE each war (somebody like Byzantium with full legitimacy/religious could probably take 220% each war)
Whenever I take more than 150% OE I always think: "I am so big now I can manage that pretty easily". 2 months later 10 stacks of 40 rebels pop up.
I'm probably killing around 300k rebels in the area every 150% OE cycle, it aint fun for sure.
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I really don't know how people manage to handle "fair" world conquests. I didnt have the patience to finish the game even with broken shit like minghals and early revoke the privilegia abuse.
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I remember the first ddr Jake three mountains attemps. Those were not fair in the slightest and it was halarious.
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Is that the protectorate abuse one? I dont remember if he recorded the first eu4 one with the infinite money and exiled troops exploit.
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wait how do you do the revoke privlegia abuse?
i tried all the old stuff and none of it works lol.
since releasing princes and converting heretics doesnt work you cant hope to revoke until like 1600+
can usually get almost 4 reforms passed by reformation though
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it was patched. You used to be able to get it done in like 15 years. It is possible to revoke in the 1500s right now though.
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On February 27 2016 15:25 SKC wrote:
it was patched. You used to be able to get it done in like 15 years. It is possible to revoke in the 1500s right now though.
best i managed was like 1647, how is 1500 possible?
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not in 1500, but before 1600 should definatelly be possible. I remember seeing people do it by 1550 not too long ago.
There is a lot of randomness in EU, sometimes you get stuck in league wars that dont fire and you are unable to pass reforms for 75 years, but if you do the standard stuff of keeping a lot of princes alive, always having all free cities and electors, converting princes, etc. plus adding a lot land to the HRE and maybe a few defensive wars pre-1600 is very doable.
If you are lucky you can have Hungary plus another big nation integrated from PUs by 1600. That's quite a bit of land.
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1500something is doable by spamming the improve relations with princes (or was it make X vote for us.. either way). I don't really see the attraction of doing that stuff, though... at that point it stops being about playing the game and is about trying to find the best ways to break the game -- but if you're doing that, it's basically same as cheating anyway, except it's not cheating implemented by developers directly but rather through bugs etc? Shrug.
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On February 27 2016 16:57 Salazarz wrote:
1500something is doable by spamming the improve relations with princes (or was it make X vote for us.. either way). I don't really see the attraction of doing that stuff, though... at that point it stops being about playing the game and is about trying to find the best ways to break the game -- but if you're doing that, it's basically same as cheating anyway, except it's not cheating implemented by developers directly but rather through bugs etc? Shrug.
idk if those are bugged or what, but you dont gain authority for those missions
its stupid.
also every game i play hungary ends the union by getting a new heir
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