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x2fst
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heat okc big gap bulls spurs mavs gap lakers/portland/other | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
either way, this game has taught me that lin isn't ready yet to be the primary guard in my fantasy bball lineup | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 24 2012 20:44 zeehar wrote: wow so many lin haters here either way, this game has taught me that lin isn't ready yet to be the primary guard in my fantasy bball lineup And what sensible people have kept saying is that he shouldnt have been even before this game. He has a looonngggg way to go before before Elite gaurd status, a long long way. Doesnt mean he cant do it. But its not happening this year. | ||
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xavierofsparta
United States84 Posts
On February 24 2012 17:18 igotmyown wrote: Let's talk Spurs and the theory of winning championships. The Spurs were at one point a championship contender, seeing as how they won the 2007 title. But at some point, probably the 2009 playoffs, they seem to have lost it. My immediate tendency is to seek out the obvious qualitative answers, a narrative why they lost and why it's impossible for them to win again, at least in the same era. That's an easy one to explain. Tim Duncan, their superstar player, aged past his superstar years. Manu too is only getting worse with age. But the Spurs kept winning, at least in the regular season. So wait, they're playing better even as they're becoming worse? The playoffs seem to prove that their success is an aberration. But first of all, I'd like to ask how is it even possible? The only thing countering the aging trend is Tony Parker peaking, and a lot of role players developing and becoming more effective. This slams against the reasoning of the superstar theory. Sure your role players and even your All-Star Tony Parker can get better, but they have a ceiling, especially with Tiago not busting into the NBA with an all star level performance. The addition of a lot of small numbers will match the subtraction of a big number (Duncan). Or can it (Detroit 04)? Championship teams all have stories about role players, from the Brian Cardinal/Kidd/Marion to the PJ Browns stepping up, which is why sports writers spout some stuff about needing a deep bench regardless of how the salary cap changes. Can a really good but not elite player and a bunch of good role players win it all? How can the Spurs keep winning but not have a chance? Does that even make sense? Weren't the Mavericks fundamentally flawed as well? The reason I believe the Spurs have not been winning in the playoffs is not necessarily the aging of TD or Manu (it definitely does not help), but the retirement of Bruce Bowen. His ability to lock down any perimeter player and even some PF's allowed the Spurs to win 3 of their 4 championships. Since Bowen's retirement, the Spurs have not been able to translate their season play into playoff wins. Also post Bowen, Pop has tried to find a new Bowen, but all that he has tried have been no where near the defense level that Bowen was and the replacements did not even have a niche role on the offense (remember Bowen corner 3's). That is my opinion, and that is why Bowen's jersey will be in the rafters of the AT&T center. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 24 2012 17:18 igotmyown wrote: Let's talk Spurs and the theory of winning championships. The Spurs were at one point a championship contender, seeing as how they won the 2007 title. But at some point, probably the 2009 playoffs, they seem to have lost it. My immediate tendency is to seek out the obvious qualitative answers, a narrative why they lost and why it's impossible for them to win again, at least in the same era. That's an easy one to explain. Tim Duncan, their superstar player, aged past his superstar years. Manu too is only getting worse with age. But the Spurs kept winning, at least in the regular season. So wait, they're playing better even as they're becoming worse? The playoffs seem to prove that their success is an aberration. But first of all, I'd like to ask how is it even possible? The only thing countering the aging trend is Tony Parker peaking, and a lot of role players developing and becoming more effective. This slams against the reasoning of the superstar theory. Sure your role players and even your All-Star Tony Parker can get better, but they have a ceiling, especially with Tiago not busting into the NBA with an all star level performance. The addition of a lot of small numbers will match the subtraction of a big number (Duncan). Or can it (Detroit 04)? Championship teams all have stories about role players, from the Brian Cardinal/Kidd/Marion to the PJ Browns stepping up, which is why sports writers spout some stuff about needing a deep bench regardless of how the salary cap changes. Can a really good but not elite player and a bunch of good role players win it all? How can the Spurs keep winning but not have a chance? Does that even make sense? Weren't the Mavericks fundamentally flawed as well? Because the Spurs are smart, but the playoffs are a different brand of basketball. There are longer breaks between games: The Spurs deep benches are nullified, superstars can play 40+ minutes a game and still perform in the next one so even though Duncan gives you 30 really efficient minutes, that isn't good enough against 44 efficient minutes from Marc Gasol. Moreover, it has been a struggle to fill in the spots vacated by retiring veterans like Bowen and Horry. | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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N1k0
Uruguay1075 Posts
As a Lakers fan i don't know if im terrified or excited. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On February 25 2012 06:56 N1k0 wrote: Sheeeeeeeeeeeeed! As a Lakers fan i don't know if im terrified or excited. 0_0 I immediately went to try to find what you were talking about but couldn't find it. Could you link it to me? | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I think Kobe will be good for him. It only became heightened by, according to league sources, a renewed conditioning regimen that apparently has him looking better than he has "in years." I don't trust that though. We hear that shit all the time about athletes coming back and it's only true 1/10. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
or rehab l0l | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
And ya agree. Better than he has "in years" isn't saying that much either lol. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 25 2012 08:53 MassHysteria wrote: ty. And it will definitely be weird seeing him as a Laker. And ya agree. Better than he has "in years" isn't saying that much either lol. BALL DONT LAAIII ! I miss Wallace anywhere would be fun to see him playing. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
mcrobs, kobe, artest, barnes, sheed. starting 5 that will lose sue to tech differential. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 25 2012 10:38 Holcan wrote: tech city. mcrobs, kobe, artest, barnes, sheed. starting 5 that will lose sue to tech differential. The old Perk, Garnett, Rondo, Sheed Celtics had them beat | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
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HonestTea
5007 Posts
so i am back. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
I know there's not much incentive for the players to try, but they're playing at maybe 50%. It's pretty dull. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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