On February 15 2012 09:59 slyboogie wrote:
I think Lebron's career FT% is 75%? Which is okay. I mean, he's not a great shooter. He kind of just muscles that sucker in there. I think Lebron's biggest problem, and it's a nitpicky one, is that his offensive game is pretty unrefined. I don't love him in isolation(as much as I should, I guess, he's still excellent) or even in a two man game with Wade. When I say "offensive game" I mean scoring, primarily; he's a wonderful passer. I think he's just not a "natural" scorer. He isn't like Durant or Carmelo - he doesn't have a Lebron-"move."

That's a lot of quotation marks...I mean he's still the best player in the game but no one is perfect.

Actually his go to move is that dribble, jab step, stutter to the left quickly and step back for a jumpshot. Almost ungaurdable.

The move Chris Paul hit him with though in the end of regulation was absolutely GOD like though. Somewhat of the same thing except instead of just stepping back for a jumper, Chris Paul brung the ball back to his right, froze Lebron, burst forward and took a shot that almost went in. Unreal.

On February 15 2012 10:53 RowdierBob wrote:
Lebron will receive the favourable treatment Kobe, Jordan etc had once he wins.

People like a winner.

Jordan got heaps of shit for being a ball hog etc who couldn't elevate the play of his teammates to win when it mattered. But as we know he started winning and everyone quickly changed their tune. Kobe copped the same flack when Shaq left and it turned around after 09.

Same will happen for Lebron.

A lot of the Lebron hate I think also stems from the fact he's so good. I was a massive Sonics fan back in the day and I HATED Jordan and the Bulls pretty much due to the fact they were so good.

People are always going to hate on Lebron after what happened with the Cavs, but he'll quickly turn public opinion if he wins that elusive Chip (probably this year).

This. Remember before The Decision, and before losing to one of the most dominant teams of all time (The Celtics) Lebron could do no wrong. That's the only thing about his narraritive that differs from Jordan and Kobe.

On February 15 2012 11:22 krndandaman wrote:

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yea at least the knicks now have a legitimate point guard (even with the TO's). really depends on how amare and melo mesh with lin. TO's are also probably the least of the knick's worries now as they found their needed PG and lowering your TO's is something you can always work on.

Meh he'll bring it down. Damn near impossible for him to keep turning it over that much. Some of it is just building chemistry with teammates and some of it is forcing plays that he shouldn't. He's smart so he'll figure out what plays to abuse on what mismatches in due time.

slyboogie

United States3423 Posts

February 15 2012 03:47 GMT

#2709

Yes that Chris Paul cross over on Lebron near the right side of the paint was unbelievable. Lebron bit on that move and every single human in the world would bite on that move. Lebron's jab into lean back jumper is just okay. I don't think it's "unguardable." He has nice shooting rhythm with that move though.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

February 15 2012 03:47 GMT

#2710

Also once Melo is back a large part of the offensive load will be lifted off his shoulders, and his assist to t/o ratio should get better as he passes to Melo, whom is a better shooter than anyone else on the team.

Great shot today, when they got the tip out and Lin looked back to D'Antoni who called an ISO for him, I was getting butterfly's in my stomach. As soon as the hands of Lin came up to start waving people off, you could feel him about to make a shot. The fact that it was a three was even better.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

February 15 2012 03:50 GMT

#2711

On February 15 2012 12:47 Holcan wrote:
Also once Melo is back a large part of the offensive load will be lifted off his shoulders, and his assist to t/o ratio should get better as he passes to Melo, whom is a better shooter than anyone else on the team.

Great shot today, when they got the tip out and Lin looked back to D'Antoni who called an ISO for him, I was getting butterfly's in my stomach. As soon as the hands of Lin came up to start waving people off, you could feel him about to make a shot. The fact that it was a three was even better.

They're both players who dominate the ball, we really don't know what will happen when Carmelo comes back. Lin's played this way his whole career, there's no way to know if he adjusts down to taking 10-15 shots per game.

The fact that it was a three should make you nervous. It's nice drama, but you don't want him taking that shot at the end of a tied game. Simply drive and get the foul, or cross up and shoot is probably more makeable for him.

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

February 15 2012 03:52 GMT

#2712

Lin passed shaq for the record of most points in 5 starts. That's a pretty great achievement if you ask me.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

February 15 2012 03:58 GMT

#2713

Also because he was a 17% 3 point shooter going into today if I'm gonna believe some sports writer on Twitter. The major thing going for Lin, and the Knicks, is that their team isn't whole yet. So any scouting reports that cause for focus on Lin probably are going to take a while to really have impact.

That said, the Knicks have been feasting on some poor defenses and have had one of the easiest schedules in the league. I somewhat hope they mesh together quickly because when they have to go up against the top tier defensive powerhouses soon...things are going to get ugly.

VENDIZ

1575 Posts

February 15 2012 03:59 GMT

#2714

On February 15 2012 12:58 Ace wrote:
Also because he was a 17% 3 point shooter going into today if I'm gonna believe some sports writer on Twitter. The major thing going for Lin, and the Knicks, is that their team isn't whole yet. So any scouting reports that cause for focus on Lin probably are going to take a while to really have impact.

That said, the Knicks have been feasting on some poor defenses and have had one of the easiest schedules in the league. I somewhat hope they mesh together quickly because when they have to go up against the top tier defensive powerhouses soon...things are going to get ugly.

Yup, he was 3 for 17 prior to tonights game

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

February 15 2012 04:14 GMT

#2715

I like Jeremy Lin, but this whole thing just reinforces how it pays for players to be in a big media market. Linsanity is fun, but part of that fun is the hype. And the amount he's been receiving in comparison to how good he is is overblown.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

February 15 2012 04:15 GMT

#2716

Kyrie Irving needs some hype.

MilesTeg

France1271 Posts

February 15 2012 04:22 GMT

#2717

PGs are imba! Just nerf them already NBA!

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

February 15 2012 05:33 GMT

#2718

Thinking about it, I think the Knicks would be better off without Carmelo. I don't think he ever fit with that team/system and the results/problems were obvious. The Lin/Chandler combo has looked pretty comfortable and Amare is Amare. He may never learn to play defense and he's not that explosive anymore, but he'll fit in and is pretty versatile scoring threat.

So shop Carmelo for some actual depth, so Lin doesn't have to play 45 minutes a game on back to back nights.

dave333

United States915 Posts

February 15 2012 05:39 GMT

#2719

My friends and I thought the game was over like 3 times...then lin just goes all crazy.

Needs work on turnovers though. And the knicks need better defense...Chandler is the defense lol

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

February 15 2012 05:45 GMT

#2720

On February 15 2012 13:22 MilesTeg wrote:
PGs are imba! Just nerf them already NBA!

Nerf? They just buffed PGs.