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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2015 07:11 GMT
#16921
difference with day9 is that his advice is actually never wrong (at least his BW vods and podcasts) as he was once a top tier competitor too back in the day (WCGs and all of that).
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 04 2015 08:39 GMT
#16922
On January 04 2015 06:22 Nimix wrote:
from a dead GTX560ti to a GTX760.. I still get more than 200, but I used to get 300+ and my CPU isn't even maxing...

I bought a 760gtx 4gb edition too and need to lock the frames at 61. Everything above and my monitor starts to flicker like crazy. Despite the fact that my monitor is crap, framerates are quite inconsitant, between 70 and 270 fps.
It's enough for me as a casual nowadays thought. More than 10 hours of gaming during a week is an exception. I'm not impressed by the 760 at all... but you can't have everything.

I have a few days vacation (the real one) left. Maybe i can snap off a few hours to optimize my system...
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2015 08:48 GMT
#16923
CSGO is cpu intensive, not gpu intensive. Check to see if your cpu is bottlenecking you
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 08:53:32
January 04 2015 08:52 GMT
#16924
hm, 2500k not oc'ed.

edit: i`m home later this day, can't look it up right now
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2015 08:53 GMT
#16925
thats what i have and im hittin 120 fps only
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 04 2015 08:54 GMT
#16926
Only like only or only like solely?
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2015 08:58 GMT
#16927
i currently float around 110-140 fps atm (i play 4:3 stretched and all low settings). Do note that my pc was built from spare parts way back in 2011 or something so its a low tier computer right now aha
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:04:57
January 04 2015 09:03 GMT
#16928
warowl always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. complete unknown (as far as i know) during 1.6 but loves to talk about how long he's been playing the game for. the day9 comparison is kind of unfair because day9 was a well known starcraft dude for a very long time before he really blew up in sc2, and he started doing his dailies as a hobby. judging from his old videos warowl was a barely popular css caster, who as recently as 2011 seemed to be trying to break into the sc2 scene.

i think his popularity has more to do with the fact that he makes relatively well produced videos, has a radio voice and got in on the ground floor with csgo on youtube (having started out with a reasonable sized fanbase which presumably helped his early csgo videos get visibility) than anything to do with game knowledge. that he's now positioned himself as a tutorial maker is pretty shrewd as it's a good way to keep people coming back to your videos, but he's nothing like an authority on counterstrike. some of the shit i've heard him come out with about the 1.6 pro scene (having barely followed it myself after ~2006) is cringeworthy.

also "greetings, hi, the warowl greets you"? fuck off, dude.
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 04 2015 09:07 GMT
#16929
Than i should lower settings too, i guess.
Dunno if it's still relevant; i saw + Show Spoiler [this] +
video. I'll give it a try too.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2015 09:18 GMT
#16930
On January 04 2015 18:07 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
Than i should lower settings too, i guess.
Dunno if it's still relevant; i saw + Show Spoiler [this] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRHyNTwa-Q
video. I'll give it a try too.


From gameplay perspective, the only setting that you really should have on high is shadows so you can see shadows further. The rest is basically eye candy
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 04 2015 09:30 GMT
#16931
mkay then. I'll take a look at it if i'm home. Also i will try this 4:3 ratio thing. My current monitor doesn't allow me to play on 1080p, which gave me the best experience so far in the matter of 'clear vision'... I heared heads appear bigger...
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 09:40:32
January 04 2015 09:40 GMT
#16932
well I'm playing on 720 16: 9 and all low too, with a i5 2500 3.3ghz, and I'm pretty sure I used to get steady 250-300 fps in 5v5 games, whereas now it's more like 200-250. First world problems I guess, but I like to get the most out of my monitor and as I used to do so, I wonder why I don't anymore. I checked for malwares and stuff, and my computer isn't any slower than usual on other games.. meh
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 04 2015 09:47 GMT
#16933
well CSGO is a bloated piece of shit (everyone gets massive lag when alt tabbing, etc). but unless we are migrating to source2, then we wont be able to have those performance issues fixed.

Also, give us option to disable post processing (that saves another 50+ fps)
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 04 2015 09:55 GMT
#16934
Yeah
Meanwhile swag getting 400 fps on his steam, but I guess his CPU is much better than mine. Well RIP, it's not like I need 300 fps to play anyway. I heard removing walls both make you gain FPS and rank up though!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51550 Posts
January 04 2015 10:13 GMT
#16935
On January 04 2015 18:03 kjwcj wrote:
warowl always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. complete unknown (as far as i know) during 1.6 but loves to talk about how long he's been playing the game for. the day9 comparison is kind of unfair because day9 was a well known starcraft dude for a very long time before he really blew up in sc2, and he started doing his dailies as a hobby. judging from his old videos warowl was a barely popular css caster, who as recently as 2011 seemed to be trying to break into the sc2 scene.

i think his popularity has more to do with the fact that he makes relatively well produced videos, has a radio voice and got in on the ground floor with csgo on youtube (having started out with a reasonable sized fanbase which presumably helped his early csgo videos get visibility) than anything to do with game knowledge. that he's now positioned himself as a tutorial maker is pretty shrewd as it's a good way to keep people coming back to your videos, but he's nothing like an authority on counterstrike. some of the shit i've heard him come out with about the 1.6 pro scene (having barely followed it myself after ~2006) is cringeworthy.

also "greetings, hi, the warowl greets you"? fuck off, dude.


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plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
January 04 2015 10:33 GMT
#16936
Well as long as neither warowl or anybody gives wrong advice its a matter of taste....cant be discussed
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 10:49:33
January 04 2015 10:48 GMT
#16937
On January 04 2015 13:42 amazingxkcd wrote:
Since you guys decided to make a bunch of posts about the validity of warowl's advice, I will espose my own thoughts on it. What exactly is the percentage of warowl's subscribers that actively watch him and using his advice, broke out of the silver/nova range? Because, with my current CSGO experience (Badge-eagle level and CEVO open team), ( it's not much to say but it gives me some sort of a valid merit) watching warowl videos is not going to help you improve that much in the long run.

Sure, anyone can easily make it out of silvers with simple lessons and videos, but if you really want to get involved and really want to play this game competitively, your best option is to watch the actual top tier pros, not a youtuber who's not even on an open team. Using the starcraft example, I don't fucking watch replays of Ninazerg or watch replays of Greenelve to learn how to play Defiler ZvT, i fucking watch jaedong replays and I fucking watch effort replays. Anytime that you have the option to learn from the best, you just straight onto that. So, why watch warowl for anything when i can watch nothing's videos or the random videos that NiP players made, or even just watch them stream on twitch? You learn way more that way since you are watching the top players with the best mechanics. When my team goes to review team strats and tactics, we watch mostly NiP and Fnatic demos, we don't watch warowl's strat talks or joe shmo's strat talks. Hell, we play inferno almost the same way that NiP plays inferno (3 a 2 b, 1 a smoke banana right off and we triple smoke it, etc...). The point that I'm trying to make here is that if you base your play from the best players in the world or at least take inspiration from it, you'll improve way more than taking advice from someone that's not even relevant in any competitive scene.

All in all, if you have never played an FPS game before in your life, sure he's ok to start off with, but for the love of god, don't watch him if you ever plan to take this game seriously; just take advice from a pro instead.


Tiring... Do you watch F1 racing or rally racing when you're learning how to drive ? No, you take lessons with basic instructors. Do you watch Usain Bolt and his training method when you're learning how to stand up and walk ?
It's the same. I might watch Jaedong videos, in fact I do, but all I'd be able to do is copy (and I won't), not understand.

To start something, you need to understand the basics instead of mimicking (badly) things you don't even understand why they exist. Pros have a state of mind, a brain working differently from a scrub. You must shape your way of thoughts first, before being able to learn from the very top. Once you are able to understand and at least know what you're doing, then you can switch to learning from the top.

I mean, when you don't know how to buy a kevlar or adjust your sensitivity, learning what weapons to use when, know money usage and ecos, shoulder peeking and other advanced techniques are useless. Baiting an awp shot ? Useless in silver, some don't even know exactly when to shoot to be accurate or aren't used to it, when your velocity is 0...

I agree it's bad to take bad habits, but decent advice is what you need at that level, to cover *fast* all the basics and not be discouraged. They don't teach you drifting at your first driving lesson for a reason. You can't even handle the pedals and wheels...
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 04 2015 11:15 GMT
#16938
Yay, constant 120 fps now. I`ve done the editing from the vid. After that the fps were @270 peak and the lowest @150 in a smoke. Can*t complain. 4:3 isn*t my thing though. Settings still maxed
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
January 04 2015 11:23 GMT
#16939
I know i'm a bit late on the topic of day9, but he actually won WCG america 05/06 (can't remember exactly which one), was top competitor and knew the game inside-out. Even his sc2 videos are spot on and way of thinking.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 11:26:54
January 04 2015 11:26 GMT
#16940
On January 04 2015 20:15 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
Yay, constant 120 fps now. I`ve done the editing from the vid. After that the fps were @270 peak and the lowest @150 in a smoke. Can*t complain. 4:3 isn*t my thing though. Settings still maxed


Weren't you playing on a laptop before? If so, WELCOME TO THE REAL GAME!

Edit: Or are you still on your laptop and just tweaked settings/upgraded it? I'm confused!
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