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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
July 22 2019 12:36 GMT
#22401
On July 22 2019 06:29 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2019 05:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2019 05:07 Oukka wrote:
How many 2nd rounds has Liquid (or other teams too) won this event? It feels like team winning the pistol ends up losing the advantage next round so often now. Maybe the econ change has been too much?

Also watching liquid finally live up to their potential, especially Nitro and Elige who've been there so long, is awesome!


That probably has more to do with Liquid being the worst pistol team in the history of pro CS than anything.


Good thing they just decided they didn't need pistol round anymore
To the first guy, my guess is Valve won't care because the point was to make things more even. I don't think they liked the pistol winner largely being guaranteed the next 2 rounds since you usually full saved. Also, on stream they said liquid won like 70% of their second rounds after losing pistol


It seems like a waste of practice time to focus too hard on your pistol round if you can win the second round anyway.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 22 2019 13:17 GMT
#22402
On July 22 2019 21:36 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2019 06:29 Parrek wrote:
On July 22 2019 05:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 22 2019 05:07 Oukka wrote:
How many 2nd rounds has Liquid (or other teams too) won this event? It feels like team winning the pistol ends up losing the advantage next round so often now. Maybe the econ change has been too much?

Also watching liquid finally live up to their potential, especially Nitro and Elige who've been there so long, is awesome!


That probably has more to do with Liquid being the worst pistol team in the history of pro CS than anything.


Good thing they just decided they didn't need pistol round anymore
To the first guy, my guess is Valve won't care because the point was to make things more even. I don't think they liked the pistol winner largely being guaranteed the next 2 rounds since you usually full saved. Also, on stream they said liquid won like 70% of their second rounds after losing pistol


It seems like a waste of practice time to focus too hard on your pistol round if you can win the second round anyway.


Which is ironic because Liquid normally wins the second round with pistols versus rifles. They just can't win pistol versus pistol.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 23 2019 04:20 GMT
#22403
It would be except there is a signifcant difference between the pistols. And tbh alot of it s a confidence thing. We all could see that they had a high skill ceiling. Now they have that swag
hedise
Profile Joined August 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-08-13 12:52:11
August 13 2019 10:41 GMT
#22404
What is the best M4A4 under $10? I think M4A4 | Buzz Kill (Field-Tested) might be a good option, but I doubt that it wouldn't look as good in the game. What do you think guys? Is there anything better available for that price?
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 13 2019 12:52 GMT
#22405
On August 13 2019 19:41 hedise wrote:
What is the best M4A4 under $10? I think M4A4 | Buzz Kill (Field-Tested) might be a good option, but I doubt that it wouldn't look as good in the game. What do you think guys? Is there anything better available for that price?

Removed the site.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 17 2019 05:04 GMT
#22406
Wow, hearing what Fifflaren is saying about NiP right now is definitely mind-blowing. I'm glad he finally spoke up about it.
EZ4ENCE
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8714 Posts
August 17 2019 05:55 GMT
#22407
On August 17 2019 14:04 WindWolf wrote:
Wow, hearing what Fifflaren is saying about NiP right now is definitely mind-blowing. I'm glad he finally spoke up about it.


What did he say?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 17 2019 10:28 GMT
#22408
On August 17 2019 14:55 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 14:04 WindWolf wrote:
Wow, hearing what Fifflaren is saying about NiP right now is definitely mind-blowing. I'm glad he finally spoke up about it.


What did he say?

He first appeared on The Richard Lewis show, and this interview alone highlighted some really shady stuff



And in the last days or so, he has brought more more stuff to attention on his twitter.
EZ4ENCE
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8714 Posts
August 17 2019 15:45 GMT
#22409
I'm halfway into the video and this is disgusting...
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 19 2019 05:27 GMT
#22410
Looks like AleksiB is leaving ENCE after the Berlin major. Unless he got a better offer from another team, I just don't see this move making sense.
EZ4ENCE
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 21 2019 07:38 GMT
#22411
I just put up a LR thread for the major.

https://tl.net/forum/games/550749-csgo-starladder-berlin-major-2019-challengers

Perhaps we can get some more people interested in CS:GO.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-22 19:35:42
February 19 2020 23:15 GMT
#22412
Its been a while since the big economy changes.
Id love to get some opinions on what you think of the eco changes. Have they made the game better/worse in your view?

Also there have been big changes in terms of the guns being used. What are your opinions on this now that some time has passed?

And Id love to hear your opinions on the map Subzero.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 21 2020 21:40 GMT
#22413
It kinda depends, for the economy change, whether you want to see more full-buys or sturdier force/half-buys, or if you think good economy management has more value. I'm kinda neutral about it. At pro level I'm not a big fan, as I think it smoothed a lot those extremely important rounds where a reset could put a team in a very dire situation at like 12-13 scorelines and the likes. I think it removes some oomph from the intensity and tension of those rounds. Then that means more buy rounds in casual games and I kinda like that.

As for the guns, there needs to be something done about the krieg to compensate the effect it has right now *for its price*. It's actually a gun that can be used to challenge an AWP at long-ish range (compared to the usual main guns), and I think it shouldn't be that cheap for that ability.
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Bigboss322
Profile Joined October 2020
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-29 12:23:45
October 28 2020 09:56 GMT
#22414
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19260 Posts
October 28 2020 13:32 GMT
#22415
The economy has changed a lot since I last played but in general it's most important in the first few rounds of each half. E.g., if some idiot on your team buys round 2 after a loss he then forces the entire team to buy, otherwise the team economy is totally screwed when you inevitably lose the round again and you have to save for another 2 rounds but that one guy keeps spending all his money and is entirely ineffective the entire game and you lose because it's basically 5v4.
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glenn.b88
Profile Joined November 2020
2 Posts
November 03 2020 01:42 GMT
#22416
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elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden177 Posts
November 03 2020 14:16 GMT
#22417
didnt they nerf the SG? the SG is imo unplayable.

The AUG on the other hand
glenn.b88
Profile Joined November 2020
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 00:52:12
November 10 2020 00:50 GMT
#22418
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porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-18 14:56:40
November 18 2020 14:43 GMT
#22419
The economy still confuses me. I never have the instinct when to force or not or if they're going to be poor/rich. Seems like force wars are still a thing. Generally I don't miss the pure eco rounds but they were a part of the game too. At least CTs don't seem to get so screwed for losing one round now. I guess that is a benefit? Also glad to see SG meta dead.
Also also: counting is for nerds.
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Dinsed
Profile Joined April 2023
1 Post
April 26 2023 00:15 GMT
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