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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 05 2015 16:30 GMT
#16961
Its not "calibrating" you its literally just locking you out from playing because every new account is clearly a smurf if it wins even one game ever.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
January 05 2015 16:39 GMT
#16962
Yeah I thought it was pretty bullshit, i just want to play some cs and its locking me out every 2 wins, and then places me silver 3 where I am shitting all over everyone
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 05 2015 16:43 GMT
#16963
I am smurfing on my alt, and the restriction has yet to bother me. I just play on my main most of the time. Only smurf with other unranked friends.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 05 2015 16:46 GMT
#16964
Of course the restriction doesn't particularly hamper actual smurfs etc. Only new players who just want to play the game lol.

The only upside is that it is probably a huge pain for hackers who get vac'ed and need a new account.
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johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 05 2015 17:43 GMT
#16965
Honestly if you are watching youtube videos for anything other than learning grenade throws specific to csgo then you are doing it wrong IMO. The best way to get better at cs is to play more and play attentively, and watch the top fraggers on your team when you die. The next best thing is to watch demos of pros. Then you just practice mimicking their moves. There are so many effective play styles out there and it is important that you take the time to examine players you view as good and how they play in real game situations so that you can see what you find to be most effective for you.

Also, regarding the maps being ct sided. It isnt the maps that are ct sided IMO, it is the game itself. The lack of wallbanging in csgo has created situations where ct's can simply camp behind a wall or a box or any kind of obstruction forever without fear of being targeted through it. Watch any 1.6 demo or frag movie and you will see how futile sitting in one spot as a ct can be. For example, if wallbanging was done right, you could rush up mid on inferno and spam the guy at arch through the corner of the wall much more effectively. he wouldnt simply be able to peak/cover repeatedly. He would get traded out much faster. It makes csgo a kids game and removes a lot of the skill required. This needs to be fixed.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 05 2015 18:38 GMT
#16966
Valve should really just implement a competitive casual (unranked) mode. Then force new players to win 10-20 games in that mode before unlocking ranked. The current win lock is really stupid and counter-productive.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 05 2015 19:05 GMT
#16967
The 5V5 community servers I was playing on recently have just become a hackfest. It's fucking dumb as hell to play against 10/20h accounts on pubs that move like silvers and headshot you at corners. Fuck these people may they die painfully
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 22:47:50
January 05 2015 20:40 GMT
#16968
Had my first game today where I got called a cheater by the entire enemy team :p I was AWPing mid as CT on D2, one time they smoked top of mid, so I left-clicked at suicide and got one through the smoke. The other times, they smoked double doors but forgot that I can still see their heads running down cat so I got them a bunch more times. So I'm a wallhacker apparently now! :p

Did they make it much rarer to get your weekly 2 drops btw? I haven't played in 3 weeks and have since been doing countless warm-up rounds of deathmatch and casual (all on Valve servers ofc) and that D2 comp game and I haven't seen any of them...

EDIT: Yup, 3-4 matches later and still no signs of my items. Is it based on how active your previous week was?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 05 2015 22:50 GMT
#16969
On January 06 2015 04:05 Nimix wrote:
The 5V5 community servers I was playing on recently have just become a hackfest. It's fucking dumb as hell to play against 10/20h accounts on pubs that move like silvers and headshot you at corners. Fuck these people may they die painfully

How do people know for sure that others are hacking? I was called a hacker in 3 different games today. In the first two I went like 39-20 and 35-15 so they had something to go off of, but in the 3rd game I was like 15-20 and I landed one nice shot and this one guy was already really damn convinced that I hacked.

Meanwhile I've suspected (quietly) that people hacked in some games I've played, I went to see after the banwaves and no one hacked... At this point whenever someone is accused of hacking, I take it with a grain of salt.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2603 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 22:53:12
January 05 2015 22:52 GMT
#16970
On January 06 2015 01:22 Djzapz wrote:
He said not to buy frag grenades if your opponents have armor... that's that stupidest thing I've ever heard... And the AWP... what?


Well, he lists a whole slough of guns you should ONLY buy if you know your opponents aren't going to have armour. Basically most of the pistols (Barring deagle and Five-SeveN) and most of the SMGs and frag grenades. And in another vid he went on a big rant about how the AK is the best gun in the game because one-tap headshots, but then says to always grab an AWP over an AK if it's on the ground because the AWP is more valuable. Iono, I can see why people aren't terribly confident in his tips.

On January 06 2015 02:43 johnbongham wrote:
Honestly if you are watching youtube videos for anything other than learning grenade throws specific to csgo then you are doing it wrong IMO. The best way to get better at cs is to play more and play attentively, and watch the top fraggers on your team when you die. The next best thing is to watch demos of pros. Then you just practice mimicking their moves. There are so many effective play styles out there and it is important that you take the time to examine players you view as good and how they play in real game situations so that you can see what you find to be most effective for you.


CS:GO has a ton of unique mechanics. Watching videos that teach you about how CSGO handles recoil and accuracy and armour and armour penetration, how one gun differs from the next, what actions produce sounds in what volumes through what obstacles, what (generally) can and cannot be wallbanged, how flashes work, when/where/how you should watch for shadows etcetcetcetcetc... these are all things you -could- figure out by playing the game or watching pros play, OR you could watch a 5 minute video on the specific subject and have a solid foundation from which you could yourself experiment.

I mean, watching pros obviously has its merits, but the point of a lot of these youtube "protips" tutorials is to cover basic mechanics shit. Once those aren't a concern you can start to worry about the flashy shoulderpeeking or flickshots or whatever, but watching pro play before that just reminds me of watching SC2 pro reps incorrectly - you always want to mimic the flashy marine micro but fail to see the solid mechanics that allow it to happen in the first place.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 23:54:45
January 05 2015 23:48 GMT
#16971
On January 06 2015 07:52 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 01:22 Djzapz wrote:
He said not to buy frag grenades if your opponents have armor... that's that stupidest thing I've ever heard... And the AWP... what?


Well, he lists a whole slough of guns you should ONLY buy if you know your opponents aren't going to have armour. Basically most of the pistols (Barring deagle and Five-SeveN) and most of the SMGs and frag grenades. And in another vid he went on a big rant about how the AK is the best gun in the game because one-tap headshots, but then says to always grab an AWP over an AK if it's on the ground because the AWP is more valuable. Iono, I can see why people aren't terribly confident in his tips.

I mean it can be true to an extent. You generally don't want to buy ppbizons or other SMGs against armored targets (except the Pro90 if you're into that kind of thing), but you definitely want nades or a p250 for instance.

As for the AWP, well it's generally true that unless your team already has 1 (or 2) you should drop your rifle for an AWP for the following round. The AK47 can easily be argued to be the best, most cost efficient gun in the game, but it stands to reason that it plays a different role in the game that is unlike the AWP. Nonetheless, I was under the impression that he was saying you should always buy the AWP if you have the money for it. Perhaps he'd better nuance what he says a little better .
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 06 2015 02:39 GMT
#16972
On January 06 2015 01:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
Of course the restriction doesn't particularly hamper actual smurfs etc. Only new players who just want to play the game lol.

The only upside is that it is probably a huge pain for hackers who get vac'ed and need a new account.


Yup. Smurfers have a dozen different accounts anyways.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 06 2015 03:06 GMT
#16973
Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 06 2015 03:27 GMT
#16974
On January 06 2015 12:06 johnbongham wrote:
Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.

What of people who buy the game to play competitive with friends? People from a source or 1.6 background, for instance... It seems unfair to them as far as I'm concerned.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 06 2015 03:41 GMT
#16975
On January 06 2015 12:27 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:06 johnbongham wrote:
Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.

What of people who buy the game to play competitive with friends? People from a source or 1.6 background, for instance... It seems unfair to them as far as I'm concerned.


Does it affect all new csgo owners or new steam accounts? Even still, people brand new to csgo dont belong in matchmaking right away either way.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 06 2015 04:02 GMT
#16976
On January 06 2015 12:41 johnbongham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:27 Djzapz wrote:
On January 06 2015 12:06 johnbongham wrote:
Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.

What of people who buy the game to play competitive with friends? People from a source or 1.6 background, for instance... It seems unfair to them as far as I'm concerned.


Does it affect all new csgo owners or new steam accounts? Even still, people brand new to csgo dont belong in matchmaking right away either way.


Anyone who buys CSGO. Why shouldn't brand new people play matchmaking exactly?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 05:22:47
January 06 2015 05:16 GMT
#16977
On January 06 2015 13:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:41 johnbongham wrote:
On January 06 2015 12:27 Djzapz wrote:
On January 06 2015 12:06 johnbongham wrote:
Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.

What of people who buy the game to play competitive with friends? People from a source or 1.6 background, for instance... It seems unfair to them as far as I'm concerned.


Does it affect all new csgo owners or new steam accounts? Even still, people brand new to csgo dont belong in matchmaking right away either way.


Anyone who buys CSGO. Why shouldn't brand new people play matchmaking exactly?


Because they suck and nothing good comes of it. Kids who dont understand to buy armor, to walk, to aim for the head, map callouts, the maps in general, etc, don't belong in competitive mode, period. All it does is cause headaches for everybody else when they get stuck with them. Seriously, what is the wait? 2 weeks? Big deal. 2 weeks is plenty of time to learn in deathmatch and casual before wasting everybody's time in competitive mode where other people cant leave a match when their teammates are braindead and don't even have a mic in a lot of cases. The most people I see complaining are people with more than 1 account. Who needs more than 1 account? I have a steam account from the first day steam was released, and have never needed to create an extra account for any reason. You really think valve implements this policy for shits and giggles? They do it to improve the experience for the majority of players.

Edit: And honestly,with the amount of admitted smurfers which IMO is a shitty and pathetic thing to do (own your account and your skill level, dont try and cheat the system), this is more than fair. Creating a second account so you can 'play with your less-skilled friends' is not a good excuse at all. All it does is create more incentive to cheat because all of a sudden you have a steam account with $10 invested into it that you don't care if you lose. If you wanna play lower ranks, throw matches like people do on the sc2 ladder. This is one of the main problems with the game being so inexpensive. When you play with 9 other people, it isnt about yours and only your enjoyment, its about everyone's experience.
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 06 2015 05:52 GMT
#16978
Has anyone here ever overwatched? Brand new steam accounts accounts where kids run around staring at the ground but somehow can perfectly aim at peoples heads through walls without anything to tell them somebody is there. Cheating and smurfing is a real problem in this game, Kudos to valve for doing anything they can to curb the issue.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 06:04:12
January 06 2015 05:55 GMT
#16979
I'm just glad Blizzard didn't take the same route as Valve and limit new accounts to 2 ladder game wins a day Imagine how stupid that would be if a veteran BW player decides to switch to SC2.

Edit: And honestly,with the amount of admitted smurfers which IMO is a shitty and pathetic thing to do (own your account and your skill level, dont try and cheat the system), this is more than fair. Creating a second account so you can 'play with your less-skilled friends' is not a good excuse at all. All it does is create more incentive to cheat because all of a sudden you have a steam account with $10 invested into it that you don't care if you lose. If you wanna play lower ranks, throw matches like people do on the sc2 ladder. This is one of the main problems with the game being so inexpensive. When you play with 9 other people, it isnt about yours and only your enjoyment, its about everyone's experience


Creating a second account to play with my less skilled friends is a pretty good excuse. Afterall, if I was a professional football player, would I take my friends to have a scrim against FC Barcelona or play with them in a recreation game? You wouldn't see recreational football players raging and crying like a bunch of 12 year olds on the pitch like you do in CSGO that's for sure.

Because they suck and nothing good comes of it. Kids who dont understand to buy armor, to walk, to aim for the head, map callouts, the maps in general, etc, don't belong in competitive mode, period. All it does is cause headaches for everybody else when they get stuck with them.


You can say this about ANY level of matchmaking. Maybe we should not let anyone in the silver ranks to play competitive. Maybe we should up it to badge level instead. Your argument makes no sense. If they're noobs, they don't deserve to play because they suck. If they're good, then they're smurfers who shouldn't play because they're too good.

When you play with 9 other people, it isnt about yours and only your enjoyment, its about everyone's experience.


What? LOL. I don't give a flying fuck about the 12 year old troll kid's enjoyment who's teamkilling and griefing every round alright? I'm sorry for being selfish, I really am, but I care only about my enjoyment. I would much rather play with a guy who doesn't buy armor, stares at the ground, and runs into open awp shots than to play with a guy who screams profanity every round because you couldn't clutch a 1v5 pistol round.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 06 2015 06:05 GMT
#16980
If you were a pro footballer, the other team would know who they are playing against. It is not fair for low ranked players to get stuck playing against a smurf. If you are a low-ranked player and you want to play with your much better friend, YOU should get stuck playing against much better players and not the other way around. Have not seen a single good argument yet.

And I am not saying low-ranked players shouldnt be in matchmaking at all, I am saying that there is nothing wrong with them having to learn the ropes in casual mode first. Also, a pro-bw player could still custom game with better players if he wanted to if blizz did similar to valve. They could also sign up for esea. Its valve's system, its their rules. Smurfing and cheating ruins the experience for others.
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