What? LOL. I don't give a flying fuck about the 12 year old troll kid's enjoyment who's teamkilling and griefing every round alright? I'm sorry for being selfish, I really am, but I care only about my enjoyment. I would much rather play with a guy who doesn't buy armor, stares at the ground, and runs into open awp shots than to play with a guy who screams profanity every round because you couldn't clutch a 1v5 pistol round.
yeah, ok, now you are just whining like the 12 year old you claim to despise.
My extra accounts were also used for item farming, since Valve limits you to about 3-4 drops/week. When on sale, the money made from selling cases/weapons earlier on was able to pay for the account, which also gets you more cases/weapons, therefore paying for itself. It was decent whenever new operations came out, right up until the Vanguard one which flooded the market relatively quickly.
2 wins/day until you get 10 wins isn't really that much to be fair. It'll only take you about 5 days to get your rank and get out of the lockout. Are some people even able to play that many games? this is 2 WINS, I don't think losses count so you can queue again.
That said, actual new players to the game have other game modes that can ease them into competitive matchmaking. IE, deathmatch, gun game, casual mode, to get the hang of the different weapons, vague idea of the buying system and just overall screwing around. When I started CSGO about 1.5 years ago, I didn't jump right into matchmaking even though I had a few years of 1.6 experience. I played like 1-2 games of deathmatch/casual mode to refresh myself before jumping in.
edit: Also, regarding Overwatch, it kind of sucks to be honest. Valve hasn't really done much to it since they implemented it couple? years back. I feel like it's on their back burner of their massive list of things to do. I kind of just skim through a few cases every now and then, and only really convict the absolute blatant ones. Whether or not it actually does anything is what a lot of people are complaining about.
On January 06 2015 12:06 johnbongham wrote: Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.
What of people who buy the game to play competitive with friends? People from a source or 1.6 background, for instance... It seems unfair to them as far as I'm concerned.
Does it affect all new csgo owners or new steam accounts? Even still, people brand new to csgo dont belong in matchmaking right away either way.
Anyone who buys CSGO. Why shouldn't brand new people play matchmaking exactly?
Because they suck and nothing good comes of it. Kids who dont understand to buy armor, to walk, to aim for the head, map callouts, the maps in general, etc, don't belong in competitive mode, period. All it does is cause headaches for everybody else when they get stuck with them. Seriously, what is the wait? 2 weeks? Big deal. 2 weeks is plenty of time to learn in deathmatch and casual before wasting everybody's time in competitive mode where other people cant leave a match when their teammates are braindead and don't even have a mic in a lot of cases. The most people I see complaining are people with more than 1 account. Who needs more than 1 account? I have a steam account from the first day steam was released, and have never needed to create an extra account for any reason. You really think valve implements this policy for shits and giggles? They do it to improve the experience for the majority of players.
I'm sure new players have tons of fun in casual getting the snot kicked out of them by much stronger players. New players play at the bottom of Silver league where there are people who don't aim for the head, don't buy armor, don't walk, etc etc. They're exactly where they should be playing. The idea that they shouldn't play matchmaking is just silly. Why don't we just ban everyone who isn't a pro player from playing since they're all bad.
Yeah beginners belong in the lowers leagues of the ladder, if you're placed there with them and are mad at them, you should rather look at yourself and try and improve... Why would you forbid them to play matchmaking? Just rank up enough to not be playing in a beginner's league.. and then complain because players in the higher leagues will suck too :D
Aside from cheaters and smurfs, CS:GO matchmaking works very well. If you really play with never-armor guys with no aim, I am pretty sure you belong to that bracket. Is is claimed that, csgo matchmaking calculates every round performance of the players to determine MMR and being a better player(with a considerable margin) will get you higher very fast, I assume playing solo. You can gain rank even if the other 4 players are batshit retards since you'll end up with the best score in your team(and better than most of their team, remember you are "very" good).
For new players, it is completely fine for them to start with competitive since the lowest bracket waits for them. I mean, there is no possibility for a complete beginner to reach even silver 2-3, let alone gold+.
On January 06 2015 14:16 johnbongham wrote: Creating a second account so you can 'play with your less-skilled friends' is not a good excuse at all.
Two of my best friends are in Silver. The rest of my mates are around MGE (my rank). So if i wanna play with my silver buddies you advise me to drop matches till i'm Gold and then rank up again to play with my other friends. Oo Sounds legit, lol.
I know this is a Global Offensive thread but I dont know where else to ask. What are some of the greatest 1.6 matches ever played? When I got into SC2 I loved looking up and catching up on the BW scene, would love to do the same with CS
There are tons of fragmovies you can watch that would be more entertaining than whole matches; Frod, nothing, forest, heaton, get right, markeloff and so many others have good ones that are probably available on youtube. edit : forgot neo who is a legend too
On January 06 2015 17:50 Laserist wrote: Aside from cheaters and smurfs, CS:GO matchmaking works very well. If you really play with never-armor guys with no aim, I am pretty sure you belong to that bracket. Is is claimed that, csgo matchmaking calculates every round performance of the players to determine MMR and being a better player(with a considerable margin) will get you higher very fast, I assume playing solo. You can gain rank even if the other 4 players are batshit retards since you'll end up with the best score in your team(and better than most of their team, remember you are "very" good).
For new players, it is completely fine for them to start with competitive since the lowest bracket waits for them. I mean, there is no possibility for a complete beginner to reach even silver 2-3, let alone gold+.
As a Nova 4, I get MG1-2 teammates who P90 rush into chokepoints on Cobblestone, eco or buy rifles with no headarmor when they have 9k and a 4stack who go site A every round on Inferno.
Do I deserve to be in this bracket?
Please don't be one of those 'MM places you in your exact skill level', it's an insult to every other half-decent player struggling in this shithole we call SEA MM.
On January 06 2015 12:06 johnbongham wrote: Honestly I see zero issues with locking new players/steam accounts out of competitive matchmaking. If you are new to cs you dont belong in competitive matchmaking anyways. MM as a default mode in cs has never existed until csgo and not even until csgo was already out for a while. All it does is cause stress for both the new players and the people who get stuck playing with them. People need to stop taking it for granted.
What of people who buy the game to play competitive with friends? People from a source or 1.6 background, for instance... It seems unfair to them as far as I'm concerned.
Does it affect all new csgo owners or new steam accounts? Even still, people brand new to csgo dont belong in matchmaking right away either way.
They do. There's a buddy of mine who hasn't bought CSGO yet and if he did he'd be better than me within a week, and you'd have him play casuals and deathmatch with dumbasses for how long? Fuck that!
On January 06 2015 14:16 johnbongham wrote: Creating a second account so you can 'play with your less-skilled friends' is not a good excuse at all.
Two of my best friends are in Silver. The rest of my mates are around MGE (my rank). So if i wanna play with my silver buddies you advise me to drop matches till i'm Gold and then rank up again to play with my other friends. Oo Sounds legit, lol.
Soooo... you play with your silver buddies on your smurf account against other silvers and just completely dominate them? Must be a lot of fun to stomp on kids way worse than you, must be a lot of fun for them to get stomped on by a smurf. I dont think bad players should be 'locked' out of matchmaking (in fact they are not, just limited for a week or two), but if that is what it takes to limit cheaters and hackers at least a little bit than I am all for it. There is nothing stopping you from teaming up with your silver buddies on your main account. You just don't want to do it because you are concerned about you and only you. You are not at all concerned about those who get stuck playing against you. Smurfing is lame.
On January 06 2015 23:20 tofucake wrote: Please. You can make it to LE by P90 rushing every round on every map regardless of what side you're on. All you need is decent aim and game sense.
And then there is this guy on twitch (RandomRambo) who got into GE three times by playing pistol only.
On January 06 2015 23:20 tofucake wrote: Please. You can make it to LE by P90 rushing every round on every map regardless of what side you're on. All you need is decent aim and game sense.
On January 06 2015 23:20 tofucake wrote: Please. You can make it to LE by P90 rushing every round on every map regardless of what side you're on. All you need is decent aim and game sense.
And then there is this guy on twitch (RandomRambo) who got into GE three times by playing pistol only.
On January 06 2015 14:16 johnbongham wrote: Creating a second account so you can 'play with your less-skilled friends' is not a good excuse at all.
Two of my best friends are in Silver. The rest of my mates are around MGE (my rank). So if i wanna play with my silver buddies you advise me to drop matches till i'm Gold and then rank up again to play with my other friends. Oo Sounds legit, lol.
Soooo... you play with your silver buddies on your smurf account against other silvers and just completely dominate them? Must be a lot of fun to stomp on kids way worse than you, must be a lot of fun for them to get stomped on by a smurf. I dont think bad players should be 'locked' out of matchmaking (in fact they are not, just limited for a week or two), but if that is what it takes to limit cheaters and hackers at least a little bit than I am all for it. There is nothing stopping you from teaming up with your silver buddies on your main account. You just don't want to do it because you are concerned about you and only you. You are not at all concerned about those who get stuck playing against you. Smurfing is lame.
You can't team up with ranks that are too low compared to yours anymore unless you're a stack of 5, and if you're a stack of 5 MM only takes the higher MMR as a base to find opponents, so you'd play 5 LEM vs 1 LEM and 5 silvers and get fucked in the ass, ruining the game for everyone. I agree smurfing is annoying, but at the moment there aren't many alternative except other services.
On January 06 2015 17:50 Laserist wrote: Aside from cheaters and smurfs, CS:GO matchmaking works very well. If you really play with never-armor guys with no aim, I am pretty sure you belong to that bracket. Is is claimed that, csgo matchmaking calculates every round performance of the players to determine MMR and being a better player(with a considerable margin) will get you higher very fast, I assume playing solo. You can gain rank even if the other 4 players are batshit retards since you'll end up with the best score in your team(and better than most of their team, remember you are "very" good).
For new players, it is completely fine for them to start with competitive since the lowest bracket waits for them. I mean, there is no possibility for a complete beginner to reach even silver 2-3, let alone gold+.
As a Nova 4, I get MG1-2 teammates who P90 rush into chokepoints on Cobblestone, eco or buy rifles with no headarmor when they have 9k and a 4stack who go site A every round on Inferno.
Do I deserve to be in this bracket?
Please don't be one of those 'MM places you in your exact skill level', it's an insult to every other half-decent player struggling in this shithole we call SEA MM.
Yes because opponents are so much better than your mates every single game that you cannot win? I'm sorry but that kind of sounds like excuses for not being able to rankup ^o)
On January 06 2015 17:50 Laserist wrote: Aside from cheaters and smurfs, CS:GO matchmaking works very well. If you really play with never-armor guys with no aim, I am pretty sure you belong to that bracket. Is is claimed that, csgo matchmaking calculates every round performance of the players to determine MMR and being a better player(with a considerable margin) will get you higher very fast, I assume playing solo. You can gain rank even if the other 4 players are batshit retards since you'll end up with the best score in your team(and better than most of their team, remember you are "very" good).
For new players, it is completely fine for them to start with competitive since the lowest bracket waits for them. I mean, there is no possibility for a complete beginner to reach even silver 2-3, let alone gold+.
As a Nova 4, I get MG1-2 teammates who P90 rush into chokepoints on Cobblestone, eco or buy rifles with no headarmor when they have 9k and a 4stack who go site A every round on Inferno.
Do I deserve to be in this bracket?
Please don't be one of those 'MM places you in your exact skill level', it's an insult to every other half-decent player struggling in this shithole we call SEA MM.
Yes because opponents are so much better than your mates every single game that you cannot win? I'm sorry but that kind of sounds like excuses for not being able to rankup ^o)
or I get the kind of teammates that panic when I appear in their sight and shoot my head
honestly I could give you a list or twenty of reasons why SEA MM is absolute trash, but of course they're all excuses to you
On January 06 2015 17:50 Laserist wrote: Aside from cheaters and smurfs, CS:GO matchmaking works very well. If you really play with never-armor guys with no aim, I am pretty sure you belong to that bracket. Is is claimed that, csgo matchmaking calculates every round performance of the players to determine MMR and being a better player(with a considerable margin) will get you higher very fast, I assume playing solo. You can gain rank even if the other 4 players are batshit retards since you'll end up with the best score in your team(and better than most of their team, remember you are "very" good).
For new players, it is completely fine for them to start with competitive since the lowest bracket waits for them. I mean, there is no possibility for a complete beginner to reach even silver 2-3, let alone gold+.
As a Nova 4, I get MG1-2 teammates who P90 rush into chokepoints on Cobblestone, eco or buy rifles with no headarmor when they have 9k and a 4stack who go site A every round on Inferno.
Do I deserve to be in this bracket?
Please don't be one of those 'MM places you in your exact skill level', it's an insult to every other half-decent player struggling in this shithole we call SEA MM.
Yes because opponents are so much better than your mates every single game that you cannot win? I'm sorry but that kind of sounds like excuses for not being able to rankup ^o)
or I get the kind of teammates that panic when I appear in their sight and shoot my head
honestly I could give you a list or twenty of reasons why SEA MM is absolute trash, but of course they're all excuses to you
He was making a point about your arguments revolving around "bad mates". He's right by the way.
Do you also flame your team ingame? Those are the worst and most annoying people, poisoning the community. Ugh.
On January 06 2015 17:50 Laserist wrote: Aside from cheaters and smurfs, CS:GO matchmaking works very well. If you really play with never-armor guys with no aim, I am pretty sure you belong to that bracket. Is is claimed that, csgo matchmaking calculates every round performance of the players to determine MMR and being a better player(with a considerable margin) will get you higher very fast, I assume playing solo. You can gain rank even if the other 4 players are batshit retards since you'll end up with the best score in your team(and better than most of their team, remember you are "very" good).
For new players, it is completely fine for them to start with competitive since the lowest bracket waits for them. I mean, there is no possibility for a complete beginner to reach even silver 2-3, let alone gold+.
As a Nova 4, I get MG1-2 teammates who P90 rush into chokepoints on Cobblestone, eco or buy rifles with no headarmor when they have 9k and a 4stack who go site A every round on Inferno.
Do I deserve to be in this bracket?
Please don't be one of those 'MM places you in your exact skill level', it's an insult to every other half-decent player struggling in this shithole we call SEA MM.
This is a video on LoL ELO but it works for CS too... sorry . And I know you take it as an insult to people in SEA MM but frankly I can drag a MG2 or MGE level team out of the shithole singlehanded even if they're playing stupidly. So it's you too. Improve and you'll be placed in better teams.
If you want a simple explanation for why blaming your team makes no sense: 1- If you're better than your team you'll be able to elevate it sufficiently that you'll be able to eek out wins, this will improve your MM ranking, you'll get to play with better teams. 2- If you don't play a lot, you may be facing better teams because your rank is actually too high for you and MM tries to put you against opponents which are higher ranked than your team because of your rank. 3- If your MM ranking stops improving despite the fact that you DO play games, it's because you're not actually good enough to get your teams to win. Your ranking should go down, then you'll play against opponents of your level and win. This happens naturally if you play even just 2-3 games a week.
MM doesn't have a vendetta against you personally even though some people do feel very special like the world revolves around them.
EPT
. And I know you take it as an insult to people in SEA MM but frankly I can drag a MG2 or MGE level team out of the shithole singlehanded even if they're playing stupidly. So it's you too. Improve and you'll be placed in better teams.
