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On September 26 2016 22:47 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 21:15 Faruko wrote:
Seems to me they finally found a new set up to play the game, devil has step up A LOT lately, so did happy.
Seems his much more passive lurker role was a problem as it was so slow it end up meaning most maps were 3v5 or 4v5 because he was pretty late to the action.
KennyS good as always, and honestly, i think Apex is among the best csgo players nowadays, top5 FOR SURE, he just needs to be a little more consistent. Not to mention Happy calling again, which is no doubt a big part of them getting better again.
Yeah but I think the major change with that is just Happy calling like he used to be but hes become more of a "do shit" lurker than he was before. He really was way too passive to the point of being useless, so either way I feel like alot fo their was just on him as a player regardless.
Devil not having to call seems to have improved his play somewhat, but he is still a tier below everyone else on his team.
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Im debating if t side need some kind of buff on pistol round, its way too hard to play against usp-s when you lack so much utility, those 1 taps are disgusting (i know, they are hard to pull off, but im talking pro level here, not my shitty level)
you probably need to just rush and overwhelm the CTs but is not easy to pull off without utlity to buffer your run a little bit
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Next Major:
Made by ELEAGUE:
January 22-29
Grandfinals also on TBS
Only 3 days in the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, under 5.000 seats.
Offline Qualification 15-18 December
Personal stance:
With Gambit, F3, TL and Godsent, the weakest "Legend"-Lineup ever and possible the hardest qualifier ever.
The date from Sunday-Sunday will either give us too many off days or Bo3 Groupstage.
Arena is lackluster small and weak compared to Columbus, Cologne or even Katowice.
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On September 28 2016 00:42 Clonester wrote:
Next Major:
Made by ELEAGUE:
January 22-29
Grandfinals also on TBS
Only 3 days in the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, under 5.000 seats.
Offline Qualification 15-18 December
Personal stance:
With Gambit, F3, TL and Godsent, the weakest "Legend"-Lineup ever and possible the hardest qualifier ever.
The date from Sunday-Sunday will either give us too many off days or Bo3 Groupstage.
Arena is lackluster small and weak compared to Columbus, Cologne or even Katowice.
Yeah you could literally have 2 groups of death next major.
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On September 27 2016 05:25 Faruko wrote:
Im debating if t side need some kind of buff on pistol round, its way too hard to play against usp-s when you lack so much utility, those 1 taps are disgusting (i know, they are hard to pull off, but im talking pro level here, not my shitty level)
you probably need to just rush and overwhelm the CTs but is not easy to pull off without utlity to buffer your run a little bit
Is there any problem at pro level? I do not have any numbers, but i never had the feeling that CT is favored.Yes the USP is much better than the glock. But not only are taps hard to pull of, you have to pull them of while being outnumbered. Should you die while your are defending the side 2 or 3 against 5, the Ts have USPs too. And a lost pistol round is harder for CTs than for Ts because of the game economy.
All in all i find pistol rounds quite even.
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France9034 Posts
That's so frustrating. They kept the legend/challenger system but it'll probably mean nothing by the time the major starts...
I honestly wouldn't be surprised seeing a lot of the legends lose their spot this time. Thinking about Flipsid3, Gambit, Liquid. Godsent and Na'Vi are all but a lock to actually go through groups in their current state, and Astralis has never looked so fragile. Only VP and SK are looking strong enough as of now...
If they don't implement a seeding system better than last time, this will be quite disappointing, and we might see another group of deaths, or more, with teams that could have easily won in another group getting booted out...
EDIT: I'm obviously still quite hyped by E-League organizing the next major of course. Honestly, this could be one of the best ever put up, the potential is there.
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On September 28 2016 01:25 Turi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 05:25 Faruko wrote:
Im debating if t side need some kind of buff on pistol round, its way too hard to play against usp-s when you lack so much utility, those 1 taps are disgusting (i know, they are hard to pull off, but im talking pro level here, not my shitty level)
you probably need to just rush and overwhelm the CTs but is not easy to pull off without utlity to buffer your run a little bit Is there any problem at pro level? I do not have any numbers, but i never had the feeling that CT is favored.Yes the USP is much better than the glock. But not only are taps hard to pull of, you have to pull them of while being outnumbered. Should you die while your are defending the side 2 or 3 against 5, the Ts have USPs too. And a lost pistol round is harder for CTs than for Ts because of the game economy. All in all i find pistol rounds quite even.
I don't think it's much of a problem. One klicks feels much less reliable in CS:GO when compared to 1.6. Additionally, the Glock was much worse in 1.6 and that didn't cause much of a problem, either.
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Well today is time to start a magical trip in ESL Open with TL cancer guys. Let's take the 2-0!
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Wait, im pretty sure this is the first time a major has 8 days, pretty sure it has always been 3-5 days at most
more teams incoming ?
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On September 28 2016 03:06 Faruko wrote:
Wait, im pretty sure this is the first time a major has 8 days, pretty sure it has always been 3-5 days at most
more teams incoming ?
or more games. Recent majors have been 5 days.
I just realised ESL One NY is this weekend and Im going lol.. I had totally forgotten till I got an email reminder for my flight.
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On September 28 2016 03:18 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2016 03:06 Faruko wrote:
Wait, im pretty sure this is the first time a major has 8 days, pretty sure it has always been 3-5 days at most
more teams incoming ? or more games. Recent majors have been 5 days. I just realised ESL One NY is this weekend and Im going lol.. I had totally forgotten till I got an email reminder for my flight.
hopefully gmaes in group round are bo3 now, you have the time
2 bo1 to be out of the major and 2 to be "legend" is super shitty honestly.
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France9034 Posts
On September 28 2016 03:06 Faruko wrote:
Wait, im pretty sure this is the first time a major has 8 days, pretty sure it has always been 3-5 days at most
more teams incoming ?
The announcement mentions 8 legends and 8 challengers.
I would rather bank on the fact that it will be spread more to accomodate TV times.
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On September 28 2016 00:42 Clonester wrote:
Next Major:
Made by ELEAGUE:
January 22-29
Grandfinals also on TBS
Only 3 days in the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, under 5.000 seats.
Offline Qualification 15-18 December
Personal stance:
With Gambit, F3, TL and Godsent, the weakest "Legend"-Lineup ever and possible the hardest qualifier ever.
The date from Sunday-Sunday will either give us too many off days or Bo3 Groupstage.
Arena is lackluster small and weak compared to Columbus, Cologne or even Katowice.
I know that its not a stadium, but you can have an awesome event at a small venue, ala TI2 and TI3.
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On September 28 2016 15:53 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2016 00:42 Clonester wrote:
Next Major:
Made by ELEAGUE:
January 22-29
Grandfinals also on TBS
Only 3 days in the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, under 5.000 seats.
Offline Qualification 15-18 December
Personal stance:
With Gambit, F3, TL and Godsent, the weakest "Legend"-Lineup ever and possible the hardest qualifier ever.
The date from Sunday-Sunday will either give us too many off days or Bo3 Groupstage.
Arena is lackluster small and weak compared to Columbus, Cologne or even Katowice.
I know that its not a stadium, but you can have an awesome event at a small venue, ala TI2 and TI3.
I still think its very lackluster.
Hey, this is Counterstrike, one of the biggest esport titles, the most important match of one of the most important tournaments will be live on TV... and we got only 5.000 people watching it live.
Its not only about how awesome the event can become (which it will, I guess), but also about the number. When LoL, Dota and CS:GO are able to fill big arenas (like ESL One and MLG have done, like LoL Worlds or Ti 4-6 can do), its just not impressive.
Also a hit in the face for people who want to go there and have to hope to get a rare ticket or pay a larger price for it. Both sucks.
On top they will have empty seats anyway, as there are people in all events who buy the 3 day tickets and leave when their team gets smashed out or out of another reason early.
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Just when DEVIL was starting to feel it in some of his games :p GL to him
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I mean, it sucks for him, mostly becaus ehe was playing a lot better than he did for the far majority of his time with nV.
Still that "a lot better" wasnt enough considering we are talking about a team wanting to win a major
Sixer legend showed some really good performance with nV considering he hardly train with them.
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On September 28 2016 23:22 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2016 15:53 lestye wrote:On September 28 2016 00:42 Clonester wrote:
Next Major:
Made by ELEAGUE:
January 22-29
Grandfinals also on TBS
Only 3 days in the Fox Theatre in Atlanta, under 5.000 seats.
Offline Qualification 15-18 December
Personal stance:
With Gambit, F3, TL and Godsent, the weakest "Legend"-Lineup ever and possible the hardest qualifier ever.
The date from Sunday-Sunday will either give us too many off days or Bo3 Groupstage.
Arena is lackluster small and weak compared to Columbus, Cologne or even Katowice.
I know that its not a stadium, but you can have an awesome event at a small venue, ala TI2 and TI3. I still think its very lackluster. Hey, this is Counterstrike, one of the biggest esport titles, the most important match of one of the most important tournaments will be live on TV... and we got only 5.000 people watching it live. Its not only about how awesome the event can become (which it will, I guess), but also about the number. When LoL, Dota and CS:GO are able to fill big arenas (like ESL One and MLG have done, like LoL Worlds or Ti 4-6 can do), its just not impressive. Also a hit in the face for people who want to go there and have to hope to get a rare ticket or pay a larger price for it. Both sucks. On top they will have empty seats anyway, as there are people in all events who buy the 3 day tickets and leave when their team gets smashed out or out of another reason early.
I think it's a mistake for esports to try to "sell out stadiums" like so many people seem to like boasting for their events. I've been to a lot of events, and I have to say the live experience just isn't that much more impressive. E-League's limit is fine, they're in the deep south and it's going to be in the middle of January. Who cares about sitting in cold weather watching games be played when the live broadcast is just as good.
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I'm with yamato: the market/organisers will figure out the appropriate size of venue for live viewers. Don't worry about it.
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