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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 03 2016 06:19 GMT
#21581
On October 03 2016 07:41 Foxxan wrote:
Didnt know that about fnatic or nip, damn.
JW is to bad/inconsistent or what? Why did they wanna kick JW.


Because he isn't a disciplined player which is fine when you are winning but not so much fun when other teams are skilled to and make you look like a fool when you do the same shit that made you godlike before but it's been figured out.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7187 Posts
October 03 2016 06:24 GMT
#21582
On October 03 2016 15:19 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2016 07:41 Foxxan wrote:
Didnt know that about fnatic or nip, damn.
JW is to bad/inconsistent or what? Why did they wanna kick JW.


Because he isn't a disciplined player which is fine when you are winning but not so much fun when other teams are skilled to and make you look like a fool when you do the same shit that made you godlike before but it's been figured out.

I think the reason was much more that he wasn't getting results. I think he really isnt that much of an undisciplined player tbh
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 03 2016 06:34 GMT
#21583
On October 03 2016 15:24 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2016 15:19 Rebs wrote:
On October 03 2016 07:41 Foxxan wrote:
Didnt know that about fnatic or nip, damn.
JW is to bad/inconsistent or what? Why did they wanna kick JW.


Because he isn't a disciplined player which is fine when you are winning but not so much fun when other teams are skilled to and make you look like a fool when you do the same shit that made you godlike before but it's been figured out.

I think the reason was much more that he wasn't getting results. I think he really isnt that much of an undisciplined player tbh


Maybe, but he pretty much got results from that ultra loose "I'm going to fuck them" playstyle. That's his MO which is what makes him fun to watch but when you aren't getting results gm doing that or if you stop doing it and you aren't comfortable its pretty much the same net result
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8932 Posts
October 03 2016 10:03 GMT
#21584
On October 02 2016 22:01 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2016 21:01 BluemoonSC wrote:
On October 02 2016 14:00 DuB phool wrote:
LIQUID ^_^
Ahhh, that was a blast to watch. I missed the first match though, gotta go find some VODs.

Probably one of the greatest comebacks of all time.

Elige fuckin slaying nerds.



Ehhh for Liquid sure, but putting it in all time category would be a stretch. I know it's hype to think about but if you watched enough CS the last few years its not even close to anything like that.

I'm a pretty big fan of how Elige plays. I'm glad he's doing well. The ACE round we got a cheer going for the ACE. Was pretty fun.

Definitely for TL.

Elige is a boss in and out of the game
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#21585
jdm was pretty dissapointing in the tournament overall

he is a GREAT awper but doesnt seem to fit so far in this team, far from being that beast he was in CLG.

jdm dust 2 vs NaVi was heart breaking.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
October 03 2016 20:09 GMT
#21586
I always thought JDM was a bit overrated. He looked good in CLG because he was their entire gameplan. He can awp but he can't do much else.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 03 2016 20:33 GMT
#21587
He does have that problem, he knows how to awp and thats about it.

You may be right with that CLG situation, reminds me a little bit of oskar with mouz, while he has been a pretty good addition to the group he lacks that star player performances from his HR days, but he was set up to do those.

maybe its more or less the same with jdm
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 10:38:57
October 04 2016 10:37 GMT
#21588
There aren't that many great/good AWPers that are also great rifles or decent riflers in NA I feel(or even in general). How many teams really have a great AWPer thats also good at rifling?

I haven't watched that many CS lately but S1mple, Guardian(up to a degree), JW(inconsistent AWper but a good rifler), Olof, Dennis, Device(rip Astralis tho), Snax are people who can do both quite well. Even then its quite rare I feel.

Is there any player in NA who is a good Awper and a good rifler? Cold Awps sometimes I think?
WriterXiao8~~
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8685 Posts
October 04 2016 10:54 GMT
#21589
On October 04 2016 19:37 Kipsate wrote:
There aren't that many great/good AWPers that are also great rifles or decent riflers in NA I feel(or even in general). How many teams really have a great AWPer thats also good at rifling?

I haven't watched that many CS lately but S1mple, Guardian(up to a degree), JW(inconsistent AWper but a good rifler), Olof, Dennis, Device(rip Astralis tho), Snax are people who can do both quite well. Even then its quite rare I feel.

Is there any player in NA who is a good Awper and a good rifler? Cold Awps sometimes I think?


NA is lacking in general? But yeah, you are right. KennyS is also quite a good rifler btw. I don't know about Snax or VP in general. Imho they are all very good riflers but non of them stands out with an AWP. Sure Snax picks it up at times because it's powerful and so does Neo and so did Pasza but in the end they are lacking a top notch awper.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7187 Posts
October 04 2016 11:52 GMT
#21590
On October 04 2016 19:37 Kipsate wrote:
There aren't that many great/good AWPers that are also great rifles or decent riflers in NA I feel(or even in general). How many teams really have a great AWPer thats also good at rifling?

I haven't watched that many CS lately but S1mple, Guardian(up to a degree), JW(inconsistent AWper but a good rifler), Olof, Dennis, Device(rip Astralis tho), Snax are people who can do both quite well. Even then its quite rare I feel.

Is there any player in NA who is a good Awper and a good rifler? Cold Awps sometimes I think?

Allu is also a pretty good rifler.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 04 2016 13:11 GMT
#21591
On October 04 2016 19:37 Kipsate wrote:
There aren't that many great/good AWPers that are also great rifles or decent riflers in NA I feel(or even in general). How many teams really have a great AWPer thats also good at rifling?

I haven't watched that many CS lately but S1mple, Guardian(up to a degree), JW(inconsistent AWper but a good rifler), Olof, Dennis, Device(rip Astralis tho), Snax are people who can do both quite well. Even then its quite rare I feel.

Is there any player in NA who is a good Awper and a good rifler? Cold Awps sometimes I think?


More like SA, but Cold and FalleN. In that order.
LiquipediaWanderer
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 17:34:38
October 04 2016 17:30 GMT
#21592
Mouz benches oskar for "personal reasons" and Nex is standing in.

In before they drop their coach and get a new one.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7187 Posts
October 04 2016 17:44 GMT
#21593
On October 05 2016 02:30 Clonester wrote:
Mouz benches oskar for "personal reasons" and Nex is standing in.

In before they drop their coach and get a new one.

It seems more that it's a problem on Oskars side rather than Mouz's. Relative dying maybe or something?
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
October 04 2016 18:28 GMT
#21594
On October 05 2016 02:44 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 02:30 Clonester wrote:
Mouz benches oskar for "personal reasons" and Nex is standing in.

In before they drop their coach and get a new one.

It seems more that it's a problem on Oskars side rather than Mouz's. Relative dying maybe or something?



You don't publicly say you are 'benching' a guy when his relative dies. You would say he is taking a leave of absence or something. My guess is alcoholism.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7187 Posts
October 04 2016 20:09 GMT
#21595
On October 05 2016 03:28 HugoBallzak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 02:44 Luolis wrote:
On October 05 2016 02:30 Clonester wrote:
Mouz benches oskar for "personal reasons" and Nex is standing in.

In before they drop their coach and get a new one.

It seems more that it's a problem on Oskars side rather than Mouz's. Relative dying maybe or something?



You don't publicly say you are 'benching' a guy when his relative dies. You would say he is taking a leave of absence or something. My guess is alcoholism.

possible.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 04 2016 20:16 GMT
#21596
lol at nip losing to fnatic in dust 2
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 04 2016 20:25 GMT
#21597
im dead serious thinking about going to sao paulo to see ESL finals
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2072 Posts
October 04 2016 21:10 GMT
#21598
Quick overwatch question: How do you judge a player who calmly headshots everyone with two shot bursts. Apart from maybe one double kill there wasn't a single frag that really was particularly suspicious, just the inhumanly consistent two shot bursts with 95% HS rate. No inhuman snapping, no locking, very little you couldn't expect from your average player once in a while apart from the total lack of spraying regardless of the situation.

I think I'm more than 90% positive there's an aimbot involved due to practically inhumanly consistent performance, but I don't think I could find a situation that really convinced me on it's own.

How do you rule stuff like that?
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7187 Posts
October 04 2016 21:11 GMT
#21599
On October 05 2016 06:10 Bacillus wrote:
Quick overwatch question: How do you judge a player who calmly headshots everyone with two shot bursts. Apart from maybe one double kill there wasn't a single frag that really was particularly suspicious, just the inhumanly consistent two shot bursts with 95% HS rate. No inhuman snapping, no locking, very little you couldn't expect from your average player once in a while apart from the total lack of spraying regardless of the situation.

I think I'm more than 90% positive there's an aimbot involved due to practically inhumanly consistent performance, but I don't think I could find a situation that really convinced me on it's own.

How do you rule stuff like that?

It might be a smurf. I guess if you cant say for sure, then theres insufficient evidence.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
October 04 2016 21:13 GMT
#21600
95% seems absurdly high, even if it was a pro smurfing in silver or something
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