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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 03:13:29
April 18 2011 03:12 GMT
#141
CP3 is a straight up pimp. I was worried that one of the potential greatest PG's of all time would be laid low by injury. Hopefully he can stay relatively healthy for the rest of his career.

The efficiency of his stat line in that game is bonkers.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 04:07:58
April 18 2011 03:26 GMT
#142
This Knuckets/OKC series is a battle. They're both going hard for rebounds, blocks, chasing loose balls...

Edit: and I've seen at least 5 moving screens in the fourth quarter
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 03:34:05
April 18 2011 03:33 GMT
#143
Here's the Denver/OKC stream, if anyone wants to watch the 4th quarter.

http://vipbox.tv/watch/28155/3/nba-playoffs:-game1-0:0---denver-nuggets-vs-oklahoma-city-thunder.html
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
The Chief
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia138 Posts
April 18 2011 05:23 GMT
#144
Thank GOD memphis finally won a playoff game, it will be an absolute miracle if they win this series (Charles Barkley somehow thinks this)
Moist
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 18 2011 05:43 GMT
#145
On April 18 2011 12:03 cLutZ wrote:
KG Is the 2nd best illegal screener in the NBA, the Celtics traded the best one to the Thunder.


No surprise, KG plays like a thug.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
April 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#146
Exciting first set of games! I wouldn't put much stock into NO beating LA. I mean yea NO was outstanding. But Pau was basically absent. He won't be the rest of the series. And Gray going down is a much bigger deal than people realize. He was probably their second best player tonight after CP3 (considering his minutes). I mean that +25 speaks volumes to how important he was.

Lakers bench was also completely ineffective today. Makes you wonder how they feel about that vujacic trade now. I mean I'm not complimenting vujacic here (he's awful) but if he gets on a roll he knocks down shot after shot. And that bench was just doing nothing offensively tonight. Mind you steve blake being out is a pretty big deal.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 18 2011 06:30 GMT
#147
ok that was a terrible screen
Bashrai
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada119 Posts
April 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#148
Yep, Celtic should have lost this game. the screen was so illegal. Hope the Knicks win the serie, too much players I dislike on the Boston's team.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13421 Posts
April 18 2011 13:01 GMT
#149
Thunder looked really nervous today but pulled through. Speaks volumes they can play like they did and still win.

I think the Knicks will do better than I thought against Boston. They actually defended pretty tough in patches and did well offensively. Really don't know about the Celts' chances without Perkins (past this series which I still expect them to win). They just don't look anywhere near as good.

Memphis was always going to be a real pain for whatever team had to play them. Thought they choked after missing those free-throws though. I think the Spurs will be rushing Manu back after this one. If the Spurs do pull through it's going to be tough for them to progress. Memphis are so physical in the paint and could really wear down the old-man back court of the Spurs.

NOLA--wow! Don't think they can sustain it, but damn they played well. Derrick Rose was great in his game, but Chris Paul showed why he's the best PG in the NBA, IMO. They're a pretty unglamorous side, but Paul gets the best out of them every night. Fisher was being a douche all game trying to put him off with his physicality, but Paul absolutely torched him and the Lakers. Best part of the game was when the commentators asked for a APB on Gasol. Haha. Lakers in 5 for me still. Maybe 6.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13421 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 13:17:11
April 18 2011 13:13 GMT
#150
On April 18 2011 10:14 igotmyown wrote:
When I saw the Lakers were down, I was interested whether the result would validate the clutch time statistics:

-Kobe Bryant is inefficient during crunch time situations. Small sample size validation: Kobe dribbles to the basket and throws up junk twice in a row, hoping for a call.
Actually he was playing smarter than usual, usually he'll shoot a contested twenty footer. Eventually he kind of gave up with the game out of reach and just let Gasol and Odom shoot the ball (and they scored on the post and two threes...)
-Supposedly Chris Paul is one of the few players who plays as well or better during crunch time situations. Why? Because he'd rather make a right play (meaning passing to the open man) rather than be the man/take over/hand down man down/hundreds of other stupid cliches.
Small sample size validation: well he started taking on Pau Gasol one on one. But he did also thread some passes to the basket.

The Lakers notoriously have a weak bench, so the way they win is by having their main 5-6 guys build up enough of a lead that it can survive runs by the other team, then protect their lead in crunch time while adding in some inefficient crunch time scoring.

In theory, if the game is tied with say 2 or 5 minutes left, the Hornets should be more likely to win. However, it's very unlikely for the game to reach that point, which is what made game 1 so interesting.


Just to add to this one, I kind of agree about Kobe:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time

NBA Crunch Time Average: 80.03 points per 100 possessions

Trailing by one or two points, or tied, in the final 24 seconds of regular-season and playoff games since 1996-97, with a minimum of 30 shots. From Alok Pattani of ESPN Stats & Information.

Player Makes Attempts FG%
Carmelo Anthony 21 44 47.7
Chris Paul 14 31 45.2
Shawn Marion 12 30 40
Brandon Roy 12 30 40
Hedo Turkoglu 12 30 40
Rashard Lewis 18 46 39.1
Glenn Robinson 14 36 38.9
Deron Williams 14 36 38.9
Mike Bibby 15 39 38.5
Dirk Nowitzki 25 65 38.5
Jalen Rose 12 32 37.5
Tim Duncan 23 62 37.1
Eddie Jones 13 36 36.1
Karl Malone 11 31 35.5
Ben Gordon 17 49 34.7
Chris Webber 18 52 34.6
Raymond Felton 12 36 33.3
LeBron James 23 69 33.3
Ray Allen 23 70 32.9
Gilbert Arenas 13 40 32.5
Vince Carter 31 96 32.3
Steve Francis 14 44 31.8
Damon Stoudamire 12 38 31.6
Nick Van Exel 16 51 31.4
Kobe Bryant 36 115 31.3
Jason Terry 14 45 31.1
Allen Iverson 21 68 30.9
Kevin Garnett 22 72 30.6
Ron Artest 9 30 30
Allan Houston 12 41 29.3
Entire league 2038 6861 29.7

I guess you could say Kobe's above average in crunch time situations, but he's nowhere near as good as people make him out to be.

edit: sorry if that table's a bit hard to read, but you get the gist...
edit2: would be interesting to see similar stats within say 2 mins to go instead of 24 secs. Wonder if it would be much different?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 18 2011 15:39 GMT
#151
Notice that nobody has as much attempts as Kobe and I highly doubt that most of the names on that list can keep it up as much for that long. There's nobody more mentally set to shoot in clutch situations than Kobe, good shooting night or bad.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 18 2011 17:44 GMT
#152
On April 18 2011 09:35 KOFgokuon wrote:
cause simmons is the end-all for basketball commentary


Seriously. At the risk of offending the Simmons legion, he provides really poor analysis for every major sport. "Boy, Chris Paul is wearing a humongous knee brace! He needs it because he's had surgery and lost his athleticism and I can tell because his movement is really limited...by the knee brace."

I mean, that's always his chain of logic. I'm not entirely sure if he every gets causality correct. "These teams have won championships and they have great chemistry. Chemistry causes championships!"
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
April 18 2011 17:52 GMT
#153
On April 17 2011 15:08 RowdierBob wrote:
Damn I felt bad for Indiana. They were so close.
I still think Orlando will win. Atlanta made quite a few arsey shots imo and won't be able to sustain it.
Thought the Blazers had the Dallas game. Bleh. Wasn't a massive fan of McMillan's rotations: didn't think he used guys like Fernandez and Matthews to great effect.
Philly did well to come back but they never looked like winning.


Dallas had 18 FT attempts in the 4th quarter. Blazers had 2. Dirk had more FT makes than the Blazers had attempts I believe. Nate did a good job, people are critical for him playing BRANDON ROY. Yeah he hasn't been himself lately, but if there is a time to play him and give him a shot it is now. The Blazers threw that game away when they had a TO on a 3-1 fastbreak with a 6 lead late in the 4th. You could see how mad Gerald Wallace was about that and it probably turned the tide of the game. I thought Nate did what he had to do, he shortened his rotation for the playoffs.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 18 2011 18:58 GMT
#154
On April 18 2011 14:54 DoomsVille wrote:
Exciting first set of games! I wouldn't put much stock into NO beating LA. I mean yea NO was outstanding. But Pau was basically absent. He won't be the rest of the series. And Gray going down is a much bigger deal than people realize. He was probably their second best player tonight after CP3 (considering his minutes). I mean that +25 speaks volumes to how important he was.

Lakers bench was also completely ineffective today. Makes you wonder how they feel about that vujacic trade now. I mean I'm not complimenting vujacic here (he's awful) but if he gets on a roll he knocks down shot after shot. And that bench was just doing nothing offensively tonight. Mind you steve blake being out is a pretty big deal.



As good as Aaron Gray was in the game, as a Pitt Alum I should warn you that he is not to be trusted. Ever.
Freeeeeeedom
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
April 18 2011 23:39 GMT
#155
These refs are calling everything so tightly that they killing the games. It's like no one is allowed to make contact or fall down without a whistle being blown. I've reffed enough basketball to learn that there is no better way to kill the watchability of game than to ref it as if it were an NBA game. I think they could greatly improve this by following a simple rule of thumb -- erring on the side of the no call.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
April 18 2011 23:46 GMT
#156
Not quite playoffs, but Adelman let go by the Rockets... I kinda feel like this is a huge mistake :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
April 18 2011 23:49 GMT
#157
On April 19 2011 08:46 Southlight wrote:
Not quite playoffs, but Adelman let go by the Rockets... I kinda feel like this is a huge mistake :x



You dont get a winning coach to coach a rebuilding team, its a smart decision and probably Ricks choice for the most part, he takes teams to the playoffs to lose to LA, he doesnt rebuild young teams.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
April 18 2011 23:51 GMT
#158
Adelman kept saying he wanted to stay though, I mean obviously it's hard to trust either side in these sorts of dealings, but yeah. People mention he and Morey had a strained relationship nearing the end of the season, so it's being insinuated that he was essentially fired...?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
April 18 2011 23:56 GMT
#159
They just didnt pick up his contract again, of course he said he wanted to stay, thats just typical politics, you dont burn bridges, especially ones that feed your family. He is a winning coach, who goes for talent, the Rockets are rebuildings next year, it makes perfect sense for them to not overpay for such a talented coach when they can bring in a new option who might be able to develop better than Rick, who would demand winning primarily.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 19 2011 00:05 GMT
#160
On April 15 2011 08:55 Holcan wrote:
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Celtics > Lakers !! :D gogo fanboyism ftw


Another Lakers/Celtics finals would be epic! :D
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