god i hate kobe. trying to do his whole selfish thing again tonight, probably trying to reassert position as alpha male. killed all of the laker's rhythm

royzizzle

Korea (North)51 Posts

November 10 2010 06:11 GMT

#431

lol at Mansap.

the Miami heat are getting trolled lately. They have the second highest (positive) scoring differential in the NBA but are only 5-3. How often does that happen?

Wish I could've seen the game. Mansap 46 points and 2 clutch 3s LUL what? D:

Ace

United States16096 Posts

November 10 2010 06:17 GMT

#432

The top 3 PGs in the league all shredded Miami's interior defense. That pretty much explains the 3 losses.

RowdierBob

Australia13423 Posts

November 10 2010 06:52 GMT

#433

Maybe a dumb question, but do you think Kobe is still the Lakers' most important player?

As in, if you had to choose between Gasol and Kobe would it be a clear cut decision to take Kobe?

shmay

United States1091 Posts

November 10 2010 07:56 GMT

#434

Gasol is such a rare mix of height, agility, shooting, skill, and intelligence he's basically indispensable. He also fits perfectly into the triangle. He totally slipped under the NBA's radar until he came to the Lakers.

It's not to knock Kobe, Gasol is just that good. When Kobe is playing well, they are unstoppable, but Gasol just brings so much to the table. A team without Kobe would be better than a team without Gasol imo (though Kobe also doesn’t have near the explosion he once did).

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

November 10 2010 08:13 GMT

#435

People keep referring to Bosh as a top 10 player, and I wondered if that is accurate.

MVP candidates:
Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Durant

More Players generally regarded as better than Chris Bosh:
Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo

Players around the same level:
Pau Gasol (I'd put him higher), Deron Williams (higher), Steve Nash (I expect him to be lower, than somehow he winds up being MVP-eqsue), Amare (I'd put lower), Tim Duncan (post 2009 lower)

Then there's Brandon Roy, Josh Smith, not sure where to put them.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

November 10 2010 08:23 GMT

#436

On November 10 2010 15:17 Ace wrote:
The top 3 PGs in the league all shredded Miami's interior defense. That pretty much explains the 3 losses.

What about complacency? The way they started that first quarter, it seemed like they stopped looking for good offensive opportunities after that.

ddod

Bulgaria144 Posts

November 10 2010 09:09 GMT

#437

this.

Imagine Nash and Howard working together..

Minds blowing all over the place..

Ace

United States16096 Posts

November 10 2010 09:43 GMT

#438

On November 10 2010 17:23 Jibba wrote:

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What about complacency? The way they started that first quarter, it seemed like they stopped looking for good offensive opportunities after that.

That was a small part of it. The first half and second half looked like completely different games. D-Will was pretty quiet not forcing too much action in the first half so Miami's Defense didn't have to worry much. Al Jefferson was missing a lot of easy shots which fortunately for Miami, led to the lead ballooning.

D-Will comes alive 3rd Quarter, Al sits and Miami is playing a whole new ball game without the momentum. Now the ESPN boards are going crazy as always.

RowdierBob

Australia13423 Posts

November 10 2010 11:55 GMT

#439

Gasol is way better than Bosh =/

I mean, I don't hate Bosh or anything but he's def one of the more overrated players in the game imo.

RowdierBob

Australia13423 Posts

November 10 2010 12:03 GMT

#440

Also, I don't think the Heat played that bad really. It was just one of those games where the Jazz hit three or so massive shots down the stretch. I think the Heat win that 9/10. Kudos to the Jazz for never giving in there. I thought they were gone on at least two occasions there, but they kept going.