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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
March 18 2011 03:35 GMT
#2581
Cavs down by 39 with a quarter and 5mins still to go...

Could be another Lakers debacle.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 18 2011 16:00 GMT
#2582
bulls

8 win streak

1st in east
starleague forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 18 2011 19:24 GMT
#2583
can anyone really doubt derrick rose now?
starleague forever
GWaLK
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States184 Posts
March 18 2011 21:59 GMT
#2584
cant read all of this
but the bulls are the best team this season
we'll take the trophy now
kthx
PTGL|GWaLK :: Owner/Head Admin of the Prime Time Gaming League. Visit us at www.ptgl.us!
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
March 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#2585
i hope rose gets MVP
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
March 19 2011 00:21 GMT
#2586
just got around to watching the mia/okc game which I recorded, and OKC looks really good with their new lineup.

Westbrook is just bafflingly good and with the reduction of Greene, who was redundant to Durant in many ways, everyone's role is pretty clear cut.

With Perkins and Mohammed (or whoever that guy is) guarding Bynum, and Ibaka guarding Gasol, they match up very well with the Lakers now. A lot of it depends on whether Artest is still the Lurker to Duran'ts Marine, but Westbrook will absolutely torch Fisher/Blake. They are definite title contenders now.

mia's offense looked like crap, and completely dependent on the creativity of dwade/lebron, which was pretty well thwarted by OKC's D. they need some sort of real offense that they can fall back on, like the triangle, that could potentially generate some easy buckets / good looks without Lebron/Wade creating it directly.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
March 19 2011 00:33 GMT
#2587
On March 19 2011 09:21 shmay wrote:
just got around to watching the mia/okc game which I recorded, and OKC looks really good with their new lineup.

Westbrook is just bafflingly good and with the reduction of Greene, who was redundant to Durant in many ways, everyone's role is pretty clear cut.

With Perkins and Mohammed (or whoever that guy is) guarding Bynum, and Ibaka guarding Gasol, they match up very well with the Lakers now. A lot of it depends on whether Artest is still the Lurker to Duran'ts Marine, but Westbrook will absolutely torch Fisher/Blake. They are definite title contenders now.

mia's offense looked like crap, and completely dependent on the creativity of dwade/lebron, which was pretty well thwarted by OKC's D. they need some sort of real offense that they can fall back on, like the triangle, that could potentially generate some easy buckets / good looks without Lebron/Wade creating it directly.


I agree with you in general. Westbrook is a magic carpet and he will just look more impressive against the Lakers points. Perk and Nazr Mohammed can be a body on Bynum, but if the Thunder are going to roll out Perk and Ibaka, that's zero offensive fire power from you bigs. Also, Gasol will absolutely abuse Ibaka, that would be one of the worst in the later rounds of the playoffs. I would still take the Lakers in a 7 game series, pretty easily.

Also, I want to respond the the D-Rose love but I'm trying to hold my tongue.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2011 00:40 GMT
#2588
On March 19 2011 04:24 a176 wrote:
can anyone really doubt derrick rose now?


yes. His team is the real reason they are winning a lot. He's good but not MVP and not even top 10 in the league.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
March 19 2011 00:47 GMT
#2589
Agreed, and I've been a fan of his since he was in high school. Ridiculously overhyped atm.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 19 2011 01:11 GMT
#2590
y'all crazy

ps LEBRON shooting like crazy
starleague forever
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 19 2011 01:14 GMT
#2591
I wouldn't count on Westbrook against LA. They are too good defensively in the paint. Everyone always says, "Fisher will get torched" and they are right in the regular season. Then in the postseason he starts doing HGH and Gasol, Bynum, and Odom play defense. A slashing PG is not the way to beat the Lakers, spot up shooting and shot creation is.
Freeeeeeedom
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 19 2011 01:17 GMT
#2592
I think for the 2nd half of the season Lebron has been shooting well over 50% tbh.
The last stat lines of his in like the last 20+ games I usually see 50%+ shooting.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
March 19 2011 01:34 GMT
#2593
On March 19 2011 10:14 cLutZ wrote:
I wouldn't count on Westbrook against LA. They are too good defensively in the paint. Everyone always says, "Fisher will get torched" and they are right in the regular season. Then in the postseason he starts doing HGH and Gasol, Bynum, and Odom play defense. A slashing PG is not the way to beat the Lakers, spot up shooting and shot creation is.


Westbrook doesn't really "slash." he just jumps towards the basket. No real grace, not totally powerful, just flies towards the basket. But your point is very valid, Laker's defense in the paint is incredible. The length+height of Gasol, Odom and Bynum is too much to overcome.

Still want to say something about D-Rose...call me when he doesn't need 20 shots to score 20 points.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 19 2011 01:44 GMT
#2594
That's a big issue I have with his MVP candidacy. That he's often shooting 8-24. However, it can be a skewed statistic if he's driving into the lane and getting fouled a lot more thus getting more free throw attempts.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 19 2011 01:48 GMT
#2595
Thanks testie for answering a question I've always pondered but never asked. (If missed shots because of fouls showed up on the stat line)
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
March 19 2011 01:54 GMT
#2596
On March 19 2011 10:48 randombum wrote:
Thanks testie for answering a question I've always pondered but never asked. (If missed shots because of fouls showed up on the stat line)

They don't.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 19 2011 01:56 GMT
#2597
If they don't then how would it be a skewed statistic? I'm guessing I read his statement differently from how he meant it. Well either way, now I know.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 01:58:34
March 19 2011 01:57 GMT
#2598
It still doesn't account for the fact that D-Rose's TS% is 53.5% while all of his competition has higher marks
Lebron: 58.2%
Dwyane Wade: 57%
Kobe: 55%

If you don't like TS% then we can just use box score stats. Those three all score more points than Rose per game (his only real super elite skill, please don't talk about his passing..) Yet Wade and Lebron take fewer shots per game and Kobe takes about .5 more shots. What can you say? Rose's one supadupa skill is getting to the rim and scoring, no one isn't saying he's not a great scorer. What can you say? He just doesn't bring much else to the table - except for " MVP leadership" and "Championship chemistry" I guess.

EDIT: last line is sarcastic, btw.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 19 2011 02:01 GMT
#2599
On March 19 2011 10:48 randombum wrote:
Thanks testie for answering a question I've always pondered but never asked. (If missed shots because of fouls showed up on the stat line)


Yea, it counts as a shot from the floor even if you get hammered during the motion. Some advanced metric guy has an adjusted Fg% that accounts for 3's and being fouled, I just don't recall who it is.
Freeeeeeedom
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 19 2011 02:02 GMT
#2600
Oh, I always thought missed shots after getting fouled did show up on the stat line. Because in the box score you often see a 3-11 shooter with 4 or more FTA's.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
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