On February 28 2011 17:15 Ace wrote: Billups hit 1 big shot, dont let it cloud your perception ^_^
Well, actually he hit a leaning jumper to cut the lead to two, right before hitting the big 3, then stole the ball, which lead to a fastbreak and freethrows. Gotta hand it to him.
Hey everyone, I need some insight about a drafting situation with a few friends. We just like to draft for fun (like the league all of a sudden imploded and all teams lost their players and 4 of us get to draft the best team atm).
The rules of the draft is to draft the team with who will win the most championships from this point onward. I get to keep them from this day forward until they retire, so age is a factor. I know this is all hypothetical, subjective, etc. But my friends and I just enjoy debating and such. So don't turn this into a shit storm please
So far I had 4/5th pick (snake format). Players age matters and goal is to build team that will win most championships.
A chose Lebron (1st overall) B - KD (2) C - Dwight (3) D - Wade (4) / Chris Paul (5) (that's me, drafter D) C - Blake Griffin (6) B - K Love (7) A - Kobe (8) / DRose (9) B - Melo (10) C - Amare (11) D - ?!? / ?!?
So it's my turn right now to get 2 back to back picks. I'm seriously having difficulty who to pick. I know friend A has his backcourt set for the next few years (Kobe is good for only maybe 5-6 years which I think I will use as fuel when we compare the teams at the end of the draft). friend B is quite scary, his front court is pretty sick (D12, Amare, Blake) all young and barely even in their prime. I feel player C screwed up, his team can't play defense will get killed on the inside with KLove and Melo.
I'm obviously need big men now. I've narrowed my list down to Pau Gasol, Dirk, Bosh, or Al Horrford. I'm leaning towards Pau Gasol and Horford. Both can play defense better than the other two, rebound better. But the big thing is that Bosh is 5 years younger than Gasol, and Dirk is 32 years old. Al Horford is young (24, I think) and stands out as a Center even on a pretty good Hawks team atm. Chime in and give me some feedback. Any players I may possibly missed? Who should I pick?
I feel that if friend A will be a advantageous spot if I let either Al Horford, Bosh, or (maybe even) Lamarcus Aldridge get around and he drafts his bigs. friend B and C, have a pretty solid frontcourt, I see them drafting the likes of Russel Westbrook, Rondo, D.will, etc. (I can't draft obviously because it will overlap with my Paul and Dwade).
Pau and Bosh are the obvious choices, 1 has 2 rings and a team to threaten a third, and will most likely become their next franchise player, the other has 2 elite super stars, and it goes in conjunction with Wade (why not pick Bosh, if Wade will get you the ring, its another for Bosh too. Dirk is to old, and Al isnt on a winning team. Of course Boozer/Noah are contending, and are both relatively young, and winners on the NCAA level, so you may want them.
On March 01 2011 05:57 Holcan wrote: Pau and Bosh are the obvious choices, 1 has 2 rings and a team to threaten a third, and will most likely become their next franchise player, the other has 2 elite super stars, and it goes in conjunction with Wade (why not pick Bosh, if Wade will get you the ring, its another for Bosh too. Dirk is to old, and Al isnt on a winning team. Of course Boozer/Noah are contending, and are both relatively young, and winners on the NCAA level, so you may want them.
Thanks for the input. I agree with Pau; he can almost do everything and doesn't really rely on his athleticism to achieve it. Which means with age, his IQ/smarts will really shine. I thought about Boozer but he is way too injury prone.
The thing with Bosh is that he played for Toronto and put up monster stats. There was nobody else there. But once he becomes the 3rd option, his play/stats dropped significantly (i'm not saying no one's stats will drop going from 1st option to 3rd (which I think will happen to KLove in the future, if he goes to teams with other options but that's another entirely different subject )). It's quite evident right now with the big 3 right now in Miami which is supposed to bring themselves to the promise land.
The thing with Horford that is so attractive on my team is that with CP3 and Dwade on my team my big men aren't going to get as many touches (create scoring chances with the ball in hand, like right now with Miami - 3 players from teams where they are option 1 and create facing the basket with ball in hand). It's the intangibles that he offers and also the fact that he creates for himself with post-moves and plays off the ball. In addition, he is already doing great on a already good Hawks team. Am I wrong to think this?
Plus if I leave Bosh alone, I feel friend A is going to pick him when it's his turn. His team will be LeBron, DRose, Kobe, and Bosh < I feel that team is pretty bad. They all don't play well off the ball and need the ball in their hands to become truly effective. So not picking Bosh may be a counter strategy???
I don't understand, how is that team bad? If all you're keeping track of his how many championships they're going to win, i think lebron drose and kobe is a really REALLY solid core of your team. does it mater if they need the ball in their hands to be effective? This isn't real basketball
Pick up mike miller IMO. He is going to be on the Heat for a few years, and a cheap championship.
Winning is going to have nothing to do with having a good team, it is going to be about getting "lucky" with a bunch of heat/chicago/okc/other roleplayers and having that team going on a Lakers/Spurs tear.
For instance, if you drafter in 2000 Derrik Fisher would be worth more than Ray Allen, regardless of their skill.
On February 28 2011 17:15 Ace wrote: Billups hit 1 big shot, dont let it cloud your perception ^_^
haha i wasn't just basing it on just that shot, I just thought it was weird how people counted him out as part of the trade...and to be fair he got 2 steals and hit that shot at the end, not to mention the big shots at the end of the first half
He is just consistent all around and he controls the offense like a true pro...I wouldn't count out Mr. Big Shot...thats just my opinion though (I am not saying they're gonna win it all though lol)
Just In: Mike Bibby bought out by Wiz and going to sign with Heat.
Not a real surprise with Bibby going to the heat, they need a real spot up shooting PG, not that Mario Chalmers idiot (stick to playing D, stop taking shots.)
The real question is where does Troy Murphy go, the Celtics and the Heat both want him, the Blazers are also interested and can use him, the Knicks could always use more size.
Well yea Chauncey's biggest asset is his "true PG" skills. He isn't a superstar but when he finally got healthy he doesn't seem to really do anything wrong.
On March 01 2011 05:46 Inflexion wrote: Hey everyone, I need some insight about a drafting situation with a few friends. We just like to draft for fun (like the league all of a sudden imploded and all teams lost their players and 4 of us get to draft the best team atm).
The rules of the draft is to draft the team with who will win the most championships from this point onward. I get to keep them from this day forward until they retire, so age is a factor. I know this is all hypothetical, subjective, etc. But my friends and I just enjoy debating and such. So don't turn this into a shit storm please
So far I had 4/5th pick (snake format). Players age matters and goal is to build team that will win most championships.
A chose Lebron (1st overall) B - KD (2) C - Dwight (3) D - Wade (4) / Chris Paul (5) (that's me, drafter D) C - Blake Griffin (6) B - K Love (7) A - Kobe (8) / DRose (9) B - Melo (10) C - Amare (11) D - ?!? / ?!?
So it's my turn right now to get 2 back to back picks. I'm seriously having difficulty who to pick. I know friend A has his backcourt set for the next few years (Kobe is good for only maybe 5-6 years which I think I will use as fuel when we compare the teams at the end of the draft). friend B is quite scary, his front court is pretty sick (D12, Amare, Blake) all young and barely even in their prime. I feel player C screwed up, his team can't play defense will get killed on the inside with KLove and Melo.
I'm obviously need big men now. I've narrowed my list down to Pau Gasol, Dirk, Bosh, or Al Horrford. I'm leaning towards Pau Gasol and Horford. Both can play defense better than the other two, rebound better. But the big thing is that Bosh is 5 years younger than Gasol, and Dirk is 32 years old. Al Horford is young (24, I think) and stands out as a Center even on a pretty good Hawks team atm. Chime in and give me some feedback. Any players I may possibly missed? Who should I pick?
I feel that if friend A will be a advantageous spot if I let either Al Horford, Bosh, or (maybe even) Lamarcus Aldridge get around and he drafts his bigs. friend B and C, have a pretty solid frontcourt, I see them drafting the likes of Russel Westbrook, Rondo, D.will, etc. (I can't draft obviously because it will overlap with my Paul and Dwade).
Let me know what you guys think =)
I think you go with players on a contending team right now. Miami/OKC/Chicago. or bank on the Lakers being good enough this year + the next few. That being said either take superstars with a wide range of talent or "super" role players like Mike Miller that no matter what will always be sought out by a contender.
On March 01 2011 07:55 zulu_nation8 wrote: I'm talking about the end sequence where Billups made those difficult shots and then stole the ball, ran the fastbreak perfectly and sealed the game.
You mean Felton being technically sound and basketball smart? I agree.
On March 01 2011 08:53 a176 wrote: i take it some of you have never actually watched felton play with the knicks
Whats that have to do with Chauncey being worth 13 million, and being a Finals MVP, and Felton being worth 7 million, and never playing in a playoffs game?