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On June 15 2012 02:16 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. just look at the hardcore AH, you cannot physically buy a 1 hander on EU at the moment about 900 dps, they just dont exist. so i dont think there are many, if any people farming act3 comfortably enough to sell off items they find. thats how the normal AH would look if people havent derped into act3 day 2. sure there would be maybe a few outlier items from the truly hardcore farmers but at the moment you can pick up a 900 dps 1 hander softcore for <500k. that should give you a decent idea of how the game has been affected by the early day broken specs. i havent seen anything to change my opinion on this. maybe people are confused about what constitutes an act3 drop or their in denial or something but you simply cannot do act3-4 in gear of equal quality to sub 800 dps weapons. Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:15 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 15 2012 02:11 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. sick burn there. On June 15 2012 02:09 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 15 2012 00:40 turdburgler wrote:On June 14 2012 22:52 HaXXspetten wrote:On June 14 2012 22:48 Nizaris wrote:
look another whine about how inferno is too hard, not skill based, couldn't exploit so i can't progress.
you're just bad admit it. i never exploited the chest, or bought gold, and i'm in act4. I just cleared the game with my second char in roughly 60 hours, no exploits, no farming etc, and that was with a melee class. I honestly don't get the hype that Inferno is unbeatable, the last two acts are pretty challenging I'll admit, but come on... aka your ranged hero paid for your melee hero to progress and then you claimed melee is fine? :D lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves. not to say melee is underpowered now, but those first few days of abusive demon hunters and mages really fucked things up. Wrong, I had roughly 200k in the bank when I started playing my monk, and I didn't pay more than roughly 1,5 million for all gear I needed to solo Inferno, something that's easily doable while you're progressing, with no need to stop progressing. Don't come and say that's because I was "carried" by abusing the fact that I had another character. 1.5 million gold pays for like 1 item of half decent quality. you 'found' all the rest of your gear in 80 hours of play time to kill diablo? sounds so unbelievable. No, I just browsed AH for everything I could find that was underpriced, you'll be surprised how easy it was. Essentially I looked for gear with >50 all res, >30 cold res (my OwE), and >75-100 dex/vit, and I could find stuff like that for every slot immediately between 50 and 200 k. Weapons were a little harder, but I just went for max LoH and ignored the damage, yielding two mere 600 dps fist weapons, but >1500 LoH overall. All-in-all, this cost me around 1.700.000 I believe. check the hardcore ah right now, monk weapons with >300 life on hit. of the 10 or so total above 600 dps, they are all in the millions of gold for an item that is super rare act1, rare act2 or common in act3. you would not of been able to pick up these bargains in softcore if people werent mindlessly farming act3 on other classes. just proves my point. im impressed you cleared the game so cheaply on a monk i really am, but the fact is the deals were only possible because of other peoples farming that they shouldnt be able to do.
Hardcore is a different issue. People have to play a lot more cautiously because when they die, it's permanent. Some good gear also gets lost due to people dying while wearing them. The farming style for hardcore is totally different: pre-underbridge nerf, I would search for the chest/goblin, and suicide-lure any elite into some corner so I can access the chest (ez farming). You simply can't do this in HC, and by the time characters get geared up, the good farming spots are hit with the nerfbat.
It's possible to get really good items cheaply if you're camping on the ah though. It takes forever to farm those items yourself.
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On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything.
Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke.
I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board.
Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's.
Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time.
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On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time.
How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period.
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On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period.
I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that.
I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited.
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Its impossible to be able to solo act3/act4 as barb as of right now. You either had to exploit yourself through act3/4 with force armor, smokebomb or bot the AH full time to make ~100+ Mio.
The prices for Items is absurd right now, a good stormshield costs at least 25.000.000 + 10.000.000 (x2) for string of ears and lantern.
I hope Blizzard gets their asses up and releases 1.0.3 ...but I think they want to make money with the RMAH before they nerf everything, because that would allow people to play the game without the need to spend 200hrs looking at the Auctionhouse screen or just buying gold/items on ebay...
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On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited.
40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong...
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Anybody know why there is no sets in the game?
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On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
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I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not.
I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now.
Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong...
That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week.
On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game?
What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes.
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On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
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I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not.
I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now.
Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong...
He said he works 40-45 hours a week. I doubt he plays that much as well.
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On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:
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show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes.
Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2
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On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
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I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not.
I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now.
Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong...
Reading fail.
Also, I have a level 55 hardcore character, and a few other softcore characters in the 30-40 range. Because I don't use any powerleveling methods, this took a fair bit of time as well.
I am in Act 3, which you probably also could have read.
I'd estimate that I've averaged 2 hours a day on my Barbarian since the game came out, probably more during the first week.
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On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:
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Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2
You're not even in Inferno yet, and they haven't patched for the early acts of Inferno to have a chance of dropping high end gear yet. Why would you expect to be seeing high end gear? Or, realistically, gear that would be high end if it was itemized well, and if set/legendary weren't kinda weak compared to rare right now.
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On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:
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Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2
Np they are about as rare as legendaries. I've found one legendary and not found a set piece in my game time.
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On June 15 2012 02:50 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:
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Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual.
Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2 You're not even in Inferno yet, and they haven't patched for the early acts of Inferno to have a chance of dropping high end gear yet. Why would you expect to be seeing high end gear? Or, realistically, gear that would be high end if it was itemized well, and if set/legendary weren't kinda weak compared to rare right now.
Diablo 2 had set items dropping before the hardest difficulty, so it's not unreasonable to expect to see some before max level if you hadn't done any research.
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On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up.
Yeah honestly it takes tons of time to solo inferno as a melee and tons of gear from AH but by no means do you need a ranged class to help you.
I've played with friends on farm runs to make them less boring but I progressed act 1/2/3/4 all solo and I haven't even rolled any of the other chars than monk.
I haven't technically "done 5 NV diablo" but I've went through act 4 killing ~10 elites, and then died in phase 3 diablo staks timed out and then I killed him after they timed out  . and im farming act 3 azmodan atm with DPS build.
<-- student with tons of time to play huehue.
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On June 15 2012 02:49 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:38 turdburgler wrote:
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show me your auction house tab, how many of those items just purely wouldnt exist if people hadnt bullshitted their way into act3 on day2. Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... Reading fail. Also, I have a level 55 hardcore character, and a few other softcore characters in the 30-40 range. Because I don't use any powerleveling methods, this took a fair bit of time as well. I am in Act 3, which you probably also could have read. I'd estimate that I've averaged 2 hours a day on my Barbarian since the game came out, probably more during the first week.
Yes reading fail. I'm interested to see how you managed to get to A3 with 60++ hours spent.
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On June 15 2012 02:52 hfxRos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:50 JingleHell wrote:On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:
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What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
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I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not.
I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now.
Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2 You're not even in Inferno yet, and they haven't patched for the early acts of Inferno to have a chance of dropping high end gear yet. Why would you expect to be seeing high end gear? Or, realistically, gear that would be high end if it was itemized well, and if set/legendary weren't kinda weak compared to rare right now. Diablo 2 had set items dropping before the hardest difficulty, so it's not unreasonable to expect to see some before max level if you hadn't done any research.
Fair enough. Diablo 1 and 2 were on the list of games I gave a miss involuntarily due to parents who were, at the time, psychotically religious. Like, to the point that I had to let my dad read any fiction that wasn't from the library's kids section before I (theoretically) got to read it. No joke.
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On June 15 2012 02:50 Xinder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:
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Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual.
Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2 Np they are about as rare as legendaries. I've found one legendary and not found a set piece in my game time.
Haven't seen a single set item in 220 hours >.>
(5 or so legendaries though)
On June 15 2012 02:54 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:52 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:50 JingleHell wrote:On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:
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There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here:
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Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2 You're not even in Inferno yet, and they haven't patched for the early acts of Inferno to have a chance of dropping high end gear yet. Why would you expect to be seeing high end gear? Or, realistically, gear that would be high end if it was itemized well, and if set/legendary weren't kinda weak compared to rare right now. Diablo 2 had set items dropping before the hardest difficulty, so it's not unreasonable to expect to see some before max level if you hadn't done any research. Fair enough. Diablo 1 and 2 were on the list of games I gave a miss involuntarily due to parents who were, at the time, psychotically religious. Like, to the point that I had to let my dad read any fiction that wasn't from the library's kids section before I (theoretically) got to read it. No joke.
Wow that's gotta suck :o
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On June 15 2012 02:54 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:52 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:50 JingleHell wrote:On June 15 2012 02:48 Darkren wrote:On June 15 2012 02:46 Xinder wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:
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There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here:
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Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... That's how much he works during the week not how much he plays the game a week. On June 15 2012 02:44 Darkren wrote:
Anybody know why there is no sets in the game? What do you mean? There are sets of gear in the game, they're Green colored. Sets for all classes. Ok sorry i havent see any and i got to hell act 2 You're not even in Inferno yet, and they haven't patched for the early acts of Inferno to have a chance of dropping high end gear yet. Why would you expect to be seeing high end gear? Or, realistically, gear that would be high end if it was itemized well, and if set/legendary weren't kinda weak compared to rare right now. Diablo 2 had set items dropping before the hardest difficulty, so it's not unreasonable to expect to see some before max level if you hadn't done any research. Fair enough. Diablo 1 and 2 were on the list of games I gave a miss involuntarily due to parents who were, at the time, psychotically religious. Like, to the point that I had to let my dad read any fiction that wasn't from the library's kids section before I (theoretically) got to read it. No joke.
Yikes! And I thought I was sheltered as a child lol.
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On June 15 2012 02:53 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 02:49 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:43 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:35 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 02:29 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 02:26 hfxRos wrote:On June 15 2012 01:57 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:On June 15 2012 01:50 Heh_ wrote:On June 15 2012 01:48 darkcloud8282 wrote:
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Look at the HC. People are progressing just fine without all this chest farming/exploiting. It's possible to progress through the game just fine without "massive help". Not really. They're just taking longer to get to the good farming spots, which might have been nerfed before they even reach it. If they do, then it's business as usual. Yes you can proceed just fine without help, but it'll take a lot more time to do so. What's the rush? Are you racing to get first inferno diablo or something? There's no rush. However, someone claimed that you could progress really quickly without exploiting. I'll quote it here: On June 15 2012 00:43 hfxRos wrote:
lol. ive said it before, not a single person in the game right now playing a barb or monk in act 4 got there in anything resembling solo, they have all consistently been helped massively by friends or have a ranged farming hero themselves.
I had hoped teamliquid would be better than this, I guess not. I'm playing a Barbarian. I'm almost done act 3, and I haven't had a "ton" of time to play, working full time. The Barbarian is my only non-hardcore character above level 50. I'm ahead of all my friends. I have zero doubt whatsoever that if I was unemployed or a student with tons of time to play, I would be done Inferno by now. Don't spew bullshit with nothing to back it up. Edit: From the way he posted, he might still be stuck in Hell difficulty.... which explains everything. Nope, Inferno. Didn't think I had to specify that since everything pre-inferno is a joke. I think about half my gear was purchased, half was found. Since I'm on act 3 right now, anything that is possible to drop, can be dropped for me. My gear is significantly below most of the common "suggested values" on the official D3 board. Don't assume that your experience is identical to everyone else's. Nowhere in my post did I claim that it could be done quickly. I'm taking my time. How many hours have you spent? You say that you haven't spent a "ton" of time playing, but that's subjective. If you're undergeared, you just keep dying over and over again. Period. I'll check when I get home, but for a rough idea, I work 40-45 hours a week, sleep a solid 8 hours a night. I tend to be fairly social on the weekend, so there isn't a lot of time for gaming there. Plus usual errands/cleaning, things like that. I have spent almost 100% of my free time on D3 since it came out, but my free time is fairly limited. 40-45 hours a week = 160-180 hours since game release. That's a fuck ton of time, if you're not in A3 yet (or completed Inferno) then you're doing something wrong... Reading fail. Also, I have a level 55 hardcore character, and a few other softcore characters in the 30-40 range. Because I don't use any powerleveling methods, this took a fair bit of time as well. I am in Act 3, which you probably also could have read. I'd estimate that I've averaged 2 hours a day on my Barbarian since the game came out, probably more during the first week. Yes reading fail. I'm interested to see how you managed to get to A3 with 60++ hours spent.
If I said it was easy, I'd be lying.
My first time through Act 2 was hellish, but I managed to do it. Had to reset a few times due to "impossible" mob abilities combos [read: Fire Chains/Moten/xxx/xxx](although now that I've geared past it, nothing in act 2 feels that way anymore). When I'd see a hard, but not impossible, elite/champion, I would try to find a place to kite it to where I could use the terrain to my advantage to either isolate mobs in a choke point, or use corners to minimize my surface area, allowing less mobs to hit me.
The build I use is:
Frenzy - Sidearm
Furious Charge - Dreadnought
Leap - Iron Impact
Ignore Pain - Iron Hide
War Cry - Impunity
Revenge - Provocation
Tough as Nails, Ruthless, Nerves of Steel
I was using WotB instead of Furious Charge for a long time. When I was stuck in act 2, I got rid of WotB for Furious Charge, and it made a HUGE difference. I couldn't zerg things down as well, but the extra healing made me a lot more durable.
Against champs/elites I open Leap - Ignore Pain - Leap, and then charge/revenge can generally keep me stable until I can Leap again. If things start to downhill from there, I kite until Ignore Pain is back up, and repeat.
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