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On August 01 2011 22:45 Furycrab wrote:(1) This really surprise you? I mean really? Sure it's exactly what Ubisoft has been doing. Sure it's on par with being frisked by airport security. However it's in no way surprising. (2) If I had to choose between UI mods and features, and no Bots/cheating plaguing the game... I'd pick no bots. If later down the line they can give us both, more power to them... In the mean time, if the first option is really your thing, TL2 is going to be doing that... However they obviously can't make the second option happen. (3)I honestly kinda like the system. It looks like a huge money grab, but I don't know... It sounds like something I could like. If someone out there is going to be trying to sell stuff anyways, why shouldn't I be also able to do the same, and safely. Not the best news, but "Marching the streets"? Please...
These sad nerds are retarded. I'm glad at least one other person understands...
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On August 01 2011 22:55 Perseverance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 22:45 Furycrab wrote:(1) This really surprise you? I mean really? Sure it's exactly what Ubisoft has been doing. Sure it's on par with being frisked by airport security. However it's in no way surprising. (2) If I had to choose between UI mods and features, and no Bots/cheating plaguing the game... I'd pick no bots. If later down the line they can give us both, more power to them... In the mean time, if the first option is really your thing, TL2 is going to be doing that... However they obviously can't make the second option happen. (3)I honestly kinda like the system. It looks like a huge money grab, but I don't know... It sounds like something I could like. If someone out there is going to be trying to sell stuff anyways, why shouldn't I be also able to do the same, and safely. Not the best news, but "Marching the streets"? Please... These sad nerds are retarded. I'm glad at least one other person understands...
Reddit /r/gaming is freaking scary today because of this news.
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RMT will stop the retards who visit shady sites to buy gold/items and get viruses to get their gold stolen again.
I think its a good Idea to have RMT so that they aren't being called by people who have had their accounts hacked every other month.
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On August 01 2011 22:54 Perseverance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 22:33 Firewood wrote:On August 01 2011 22:27 Perseverance wrote:On August 01 2011 22:02 Technique wrote:On August 01 2011 21:50 Perseverance wrote:
It's funny to see so many retards crying about RMT when it was HUGELY prevalent in Diablo 2. The only difference is that Diablo 2 had thousands of times the items to sell than what Diablo 3 will have. This is because of Duping, Botting, and even Hacking items to create completely new gear. And who says it won't be like this in d3? With the RMT feature added there is no downside. WORST CASE scenario is that duping/botting/hacked items still end up existing (Just like in D2) BUT at least with the AH there is a SAFE way to purchase items, rather than buy $500 from a site and then get ripped off with no way to prove it. Why should Blizzard care about the lame idiots that visits shady sites TO BUY items that they are to retarded to get on their own? Just asking. I gave an example of the WORST case scenario. Best case (and most likely) scenario is that there wont be massive retarded amounts of botting/duping/creating hacked items. Especially since Blizzard will have ALL KINDS of money from the RMT to fund combating hackers.RMT = Best decision Blizzard has made in a while. All you tards are just crying because you don't understand what Blizzard just did.
To be fair, Blizzard is easily one of the richest companies in the game industry right now, they should have more than enough to combat the hackers, it's simply not a priority for them.
Just look at the whole drophack fiasko on NA a couple of weeks ago, that took way longer to handle than in it should have.
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On August 01 2011 22:12 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 21:41 Senx wrote:On August 01 2011 21:35 Minastir wrote:On August 01 2011 21:19 Senx wrote:
Was there ever any pride or respect in Diablo 2? Duping, MFing, rushing/PLing, pindelbotting and other exploits/tactics has been a part of Diablo 2 since the dawn of time.
Very few people played the game legit, and those that did only played it for a short amount of time because the game got very old very fast.
Diablo was never about pride or being respected by the community, it was just about having fun with friends. Either that or working towards that perfect char using the above exploits (which take up a large portion of diablo 2s history). MF runs, rushing chars through acts and powerleveling are exploits? If you don't like to play the game like that then more power to you, but I love to rush my chars to high levels as soon as possible, get some wealth by doing mf runs and then start trading, because that's the aspect I enjoy the most in D2. I love turning wealth into more wealth by abusing the traits of the barter based economy, that is people who don't know the real value of their items. Are you saying the way I enjoy this game is wrong? Should I apologize for not conforming to your standards of fair play? /Shrug, I was simply talking about respect and pride, these exploits and strategies were not things that gave a player respect. Respect wasn't even a part of Diablo 2, like at all, which i explained in my previous post. Its like you said, people did whatever the fuck they wanted for their own gain, which is how the game was designed and how it was later exploited to its maximum. It was never about gaining reputation or respect. Diablo 3 will be no different, it will be about you and your friends having a blast not giving a fuck about anyone else in the game.
Which is a bit akward for an online game in 2011. What do you mean? That's how I play all of my games.
all the most popular games have substituted single ended fun playing with the hamster-wheel joblike grind&reward dynamic where people must do repetitive tasks to get the new goodie to enjoy for a bit only to then again return to grind. WoW, Legue of Legends, etc. Unlockable content and grind-based awards is the standard these days.
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On August 01 2011 22:58 Zeroes wrote:
RMT will stop the retards who visit shady sites to buy gold/items and get viruses to get their gold stolen again.
I think its a good Idea to have RMT so that they aren't being called by people who have had their accounts hacked every other month.
I interpret that more as natural selection 
Kind of like getting nubs in the 8-player party to press Alt-F4.
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all I really wanted was a beta date 
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It's like blizzard has managed to rape my childhood overnight. This must be how people felt when Michael Bay signed on for the transformers movies.
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Wait a minute here now.
People complain about having to be online to play the game?
- People complained about cheaters in D2, they complained about dupes, hacks and all sorts of things. Online only is the only way to fix this.
People complain about no mods?
- People complained about maphacks and botting in D2. No mods is the only way to fix this.
People complain about auction house for real world currency?
- Diablo II thread is full of people talking about how much forum gold they have (mainly because of boting/maphacks) which can be bought for real life money. IE the community have CLEARLY shown they want to be able to buy items for real life money.
Same thing has been equally clearly demonstrated in WoW, EVE and any other MMORPG out there. People want to be able to buy items. Simple as that and they WILL do it and Blizzard can't stop it. So they regulate it instead.
tl;dr: Outraged people are hypocrites when raging on Blizzard since they are only giving the community EXACTLY what it wants. Action speaks louder than words and all that.
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On August 01 2011 23:00 mav451 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 22:58 Zeroes wrote:
RMT will stop the retards who visit shady sites to buy gold/items and get viruses to get their gold stolen again.
I think its a good Idea to have RMT so that they aren't being called by people who have had their accounts hacked every other month. I interpret that more as natural selection Kind of like getting nubs in the 8-player party to press Alt-F4.
lol sure you do but blizzard has to deal with these people so RMT is more for them not for us
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On August 01 2011 22:48 xarthaz wrote:
Uhh, the utility of mods is ADDITIVE to the original game, not substitutive. This means that mods, in every conceivable case make the game BETTER, hence being a must-have feature of any game to reach the highest heights of gameplay enjoyment.
Bots and cheats are additive too. Online gaming and no-mods are the best way to counter hacks and piracy. I agree 99% with Blizzard.
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My first game was starcraft which I still play today, my first rpg was diablo2. I play both games even till today. In the past, you brought a game and you got 100% from good developer. Modern gaming: You buy a game and you want more you have to pay for DLCs. I don't want the gamer friendly blizzard I used to know to become like this. It is like your best friend becomes a stranger.
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Awesome news... Get money playing a game I love. What's the problem?
To clarify: I rocked the AH in WoW and made ALOT of gold. Will the Diablo 3 AH with RMT allow me to make ALOT of real money now?
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I can't believe this surprises any of you. You are on Teamliquid.. did you not see the fiasco over online-only play and no LAN with Starcraft 2? You did? Well guess what, so far Blizzard has won because everyone has bought Starcraft 2 and continues to buy it, so their decision to prevent offline play has been vindicated.
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On August 01 2011 23:04 demonik187 wrote:
Awesome news... Get money playing a game I love. What's the problem?
To clarify: I rocked the AH in WoW and made ALOT of gold. Will the Diablo 3 AH with RMT allow me to make ALOT of real money now?
If by "a lot" you mean a fraction of what the chinese botters/hackers will be making, then yeah!
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On August 01 2011 23:07 grobo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 23:04 demonik187 wrote:
Awesome news... Get money playing a game I love. What's the problem?
To clarify: I rocked the AH in WoW and made ALOT of gold. Will the Diablo 3 AH with RMT allow me to make ALOT of real money now? If by "a lot" you mean a fraction of what the chinese botters/hackers will be making, then yeah!
lol touche my friend. Maybe I will put together a sweatshop of my own muahahaha
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On August 01 2011 23:07 Psyqo wrote:
I can't believe this surprises any of you. You are on Teamliquid.. did you not see the fiasco over online-only play and no LAN with Starcraft 2? You did? Well guess what, so far Blizzard has won because everyone has bought Starcraft 2 and continues to buy it, so their decision to prevent offline play has been vindicated.
You could still play SC2 single player offline.
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On August 01 2011 22:54 Perseverance wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2011 22:33 Firewood wrote:On August 01 2011 22:27 Perseverance wrote:On August 01 2011 22:02 Technique wrote:On August 01 2011 21:50 Perseverance wrote:
It's funny to see so many retards crying about RMT when it was HUGELY prevalent in Diablo 2. The only difference is that Diablo 2 had thousands of times the items to sell than what Diablo 3 will have. This is because of Duping, Botting, and even Hacking items to create completely new gear. And who says it won't be like this in d3? With the RMT feature added there is no downside. WORST CASE scenario is that duping/botting/hacked items still end up existing (Just like in D2) BUT at least with the AH there is a SAFE way to purchase items, rather than buy $500 from a site and then get ripped off with no way to prove it. Why should Blizzard care about the lame idiots that visits shady sites TO BUY items that they are to retarded to get on their own? Just asking. I gave an example of the WORST case scenario. Best case (and most likely) scenario is that there wont be massive retarded amounts of botting/duping/creating hacked items. Especially since Blizzard will have ALL KINDS of money from the RMT to fund combating hackers. RMT = Best decision Blizzard has made in a while. All you tards are just crying because you don't understand what Blizzard just did.
I totally understand why they did it. They had a few choices, ban people buying from other sites (requires resources to monitor and execute, costs money, no income) or the could go after the sites with legal actions (requires resources, costs money, no income) or they could just control the market themselves by creating this simple tool and then take 3 types of fees to make an income. Money they can spend on developing the game.
And all this works, because we fans loves to complain but we don't stand up for our opinions when it all comes down. We'll sit there and play the game. I'll do it no matter what. But i guess it's gonna be like in WoW, i'll sit in my bubble with my friends and enjoy the game and everyone outside that bubble is an retard or an ebayer.
I just don't like it, but i understand why. You just have to ask yourself how much is it worth to risk to actually gain something. I'm pretty sure my experience as a legit player, will suffer more from this RMT AH than with shady third party sites.
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On August 01 2011 23:07 Psyqo wrote:
I can't believe this surprises any of you. You are on Teamliquid.. did you not see the fiasco over online-only play and no LAN with Starcraft 2? You did? Well guess what, so far Blizzard has won because everyone has bought Starcraft 2 and continues to buy it, so their decision to prevent offline play has been vindicated.
You need to understand that not every single consumer frequents TL and other gaming forums, so they have no clue what they get other than the game, back when i was a kid i went in to the store and bought a game i though looked cool, i had no idea if they where stripping half of the game at release only to make you pay for it next year.
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I'm unsure about my position on RMT and the new AH. A situation just came up in my head where I found an extremely rare item. Now say this item is worth over 100$ on the AH based on its rarity, could I find it in myself to keep it, and miss out on the 100$? As a diablo player, I don't want to have to make this decision. I want to get an item and feel satisfied and accomplished, not torn and uneasy.
How does everyone else feel about situations like this? If you found an item worth hundreds of dollars, what would be your course of action?
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