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MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
August 01 2011 14:12 GMT
#2801
I kinda like the idea that Diablo might actually drop $20. This is also a botters wet dream though so I wonder if Blizzard will be able to stop hacking / bots.
Nesquik
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom600 Posts
August 01 2011 14:12 GMT
#2802
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !
Oh IMMvp won agian but EGHuK getting Ro8 is a way bigger deal - Gootecks
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
August 01 2011 14:13 GMT
#2803
On August 01 2011 23:10 Noximous wrote:
I'm unsure about my position on RMT and the new AH. A situation just came up in my head where I found an extremely rare item. Now say this item is worth over 100$ on the AH based on its rarity, could I find it in myself to keep it, and miss out on the 100$? As a diablo player, I don't want to have to make this decision. I want to get an item and feel satisfied and accomplished, not torn and uneasy.

How does everyone else feel about situations like this? If you found an item worth hundreds of dollars, what would be your course of action?


I'd feel very satisfied finding an item in a video game and getting 100 dollars for it. As long as I don't need the item for my own char I dont see any issue with it.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 01 2011 14:14 GMT
#2804
On August 01 2011 23:10 Noximous wrote:
I'm unsure about my position on RMT and the new AH. A situation just came up in my head where I found an extremely rare item. Now say this item is worth over 100$ on the AH based on its rarity, could I find it in myself to keep it, and miss out on the 100$? As a diablo player, I don't want to have to make this decision. I want to get an item and feel satisfied and accomplished, not torn and uneasy.

How does everyone else feel about situations like this? If you found an item worth hundreds of dollars, what would be your course of action?


Well it would depend. If you have a char that could use said item you could just use it for a while then sell it when you get something better.

But if you find one of those items that is the best for that item slot then I dunno. You could probably use it until your done with that char then sell it to help start up a new char?
Never Knows Best.
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
August 01 2011 14:16 GMT
#2805
All of these things just make it easier for blizzard to police their game. They don't allow them to do it in the first place. They could implement other systems to make antihack etc at a slightly higher cost

The consumer who pays the cost of this solution.

It isn't a debate about multi player vs single player. Its that blizzard sacked the whole single player aspect and attempted to make it another terrible mmo or assassins creed with griefers...
Firewood
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 14:19:03
August 01 2011 14:17 GMT
#2806
On August 01 2011 23:13 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:10 Noximous wrote:
I'm unsure about my position on RMT and the new AH. A situation just came up in my head where I found an extremely rare item. Now say this item is worth over 100$ on the AH based on its rarity, could I find it in myself to keep it, and miss out on the 100$? As a diablo player, I don't want to have to make this decision. I want to get an item and feel satisfied and accomplished, not torn and uneasy.

How does everyone else feel about situations like this? If you found an item worth hundreds of dollars, what would be your course of action?


I'd feel very satisfied finding an item in a video game and getting 100 dollars for it. As long as I don't need the item for my own char I dont see any issue with it.


Remember, don't make too much money orelse Skatteverket will be knocking on your door

EDIT: and btw, with everyone as possible sellers, i think very very few players will get any big numbers for their items.
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Noximous
Profile Joined April 2010
United States29 Posts
August 01 2011 14:17 GMT
#2807
On August 01 2011 23:13 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:10 Noximous wrote:
I'm unsure about my position on RMT and the new AH. A situation just came up in my head where I found an extremely rare item. Now say this item is worth over 100$ on the AH based on its rarity, could I find it in myself to keep it, and miss out on the 100$? As a diablo player, I don't want to have to make this decision. I want to get an item and feel satisfied and accomplished, not torn and uneasy.

How does everyone else feel about situations like this? If you found an item worth hundreds of dollars, what would be your course of action?


I'd feel very satisfied finding an item in a video game and getting 100 dollars for it. As long as I don't need the item for my own char I dont see any issue with it.


What if you did though? Would it be a tough decision to keep it for your own character versus selling it? And what if one of your friends wanted it? Could you give your friends items, particularly ones worth significant amounts of real money?
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
August 01 2011 14:17 GMT
#2808
On August 01 2011 23:10 Noximous wrote:
I'm unsure about my position on RMT and the new AH. A situation just came up in my head where I found an extremely rare item. Now say this item is worth over 100$ on the AH based on its rarity, could I find it in myself to keep it, and miss out on the 100$? As a diablo player, I don't want to have to make this decision. I want to get an item and feel satisfied and accomplished, not torn and uneasy.

How does everyone else feel about situations like this? If you found an item worth hundreds of dollars, what would be your course of action?



I understand your dilema on this. It does bring a new look on the procuration of items. My reaction would depend on several things.. Now a guy like me who likes to play the Auction House may sell it, espeically for real money and definitely if I needed the money at the time! However, the stat min/maxer in me says that if it's something I have been desperately looking for to complete a build, I may keep it regardless of the price.
We march to victory!
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
August 01 2011 14:18 GMT
#2809
On August 01 2011 23:12 Nesquik wrote:
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !



Such a shame you let something that has little to no effect on you ruin your experience.
We march to victory!
PJFrylar
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
August 01 2011 14:19 GMT
#2810
I feel like I'm in that South Park episode where Lucas/Spielburg were raping Indiana Jones. Some of these changes are just simply disappointing. I feel like between stat/skill allocation being removed leveling has become greatly trivialized. Sure you still increase in power, but it just doesn't feel right to have nothing to assign when you level. I also am not a huge fan of the theoretical new rune system.

I dislike the idea of a RMT AH, but I can get over that by just choosing not to use it. However, between that and not displaying a record/rating, I feel this really hurts pvp.

I'm not going to make some knee jerk false claim like I won't buy the game anymore. But I'm certainly not hyped up about it anymore, and I probably won't put anywhere near the time in this game that I originally would have.
Souljah
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States423 Posts
August 01 2011 14:19 GMT
#2811
The AH doesn't bother me one bit. Its simple for me really, if I don't like it, I won't use it. It really comes down to how hard the game is going to be with the items you find. If it gets to a point where you need items from the AH, then I see this is an issue.
Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
August 01 2011 14:20 GMT
#2812
On August 01 2011 22:45 Furycrab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 22:12 mewo wrote:
This is pretty awful news - http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/01/diablo-iii-no-mods-online-only-cash-trades/

(1)No offline
(2)No mods
(3)Cash shop

We need to start a movement. March in the streets. Have a parade of activision hate.



(1) This really surprise you? I mean really? Sure it's exactly what Ubisoft has been doing. Sure it's on par with being frisked by airport security. However it's in no way surprising.

(2) If I had to choose between UI mods and features, and no Bots/cheating plaguing the game... I'd pick no bots. If later down the line they can give us both, more power to them... In the mean time, if the first option is really your thing, TL2 is going to be doing that... However they obviously can't make the second option happen.

(3)I honestly kinda like the system. It looks like a huge money grab, but I don't know... It sounds like something I could like. If someone out there is going to be trying to sell stuff anyways, why shouldn't I be also able to do the same, and safely.

Not the best news, but "Marching the streets"? Please...

(1) Wait, are you saying Ubisoft is a good example? I had to download a pirated version of the game I bought from them, because they were having problems AT THEIR END for 3 WEEKS, wich meant I couldn't even start my SINGLEPLAYER ONLY game. (as a compensation, I did get a free 20 euro game... WICH I COULDN'T START IETHER BECAUSE OF THEIR DRM!)

(2) The pick is not between UI mods and bots/hacks vs niether. Bots and hacks will exist even whitout the UI mods.

(3) I'll just use blizzards argument as to why I think it's a dumb idea. "If I have more money than time I can purchase items, or if I’m leet in the game I can get benefits out of it." Added with this next quote: "Blizzard will take a small cut, but they’re not expecting to make too much of a profit out of it themselves.". And level caps on items... what was wrong with D2s version of getting strength for better items?
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
August 01 2011 14:21 GMT
#2813
On August 01 2011 23:18 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:12 Nesquik wrote:
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !



Such a shame you let something that has little to no effect on you ruin your experience.

Well some people have principles. And it does affect people. For example, people can PvP with better gear without investing anything (except cash). In PvP everybody are affected.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 14:24:12
August 01 2011 14:23 GMT
#2814
As long as the game's interface works, I don't care about the rest as it will probably work out well. SC2 has been a mild disaster in that regard for me, with the horrible failure that the new battle.net UI was and still is. I have very high hopes for D3.

Noone knows yet how the new skill system will play out and how it will influence the game. There are justified concerns, we'll see if Blizzard plans to adress them if neccessary or if the game will be awesome anyways. Gameplay-wise, both of the last two games - SC2 and WoW(+addons) - have cemented Blizzard's position on the respective genre's thrones, and I don't think they'll fail with their latest title.

As for the RMT auction house: Why not? That's not the end of the world, people don't need to use it that way, and folks with money to spend on games will do so anyways. Better Blizzard controls the market than people dealing with fg on 3rd party sites.

However, I'll get Torchlight 2 as well. Just because of how awesome Mythos was, how good Torchlight became, and how much untapped potential the developers there still have.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 14:24:12
August 01 2011 14:23 GMT
#2815
On August 01 2011 23:21 phanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:18 demonik187 wrote:
On August 01 2011 23:12 Nesquik wrote:
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !



Such a shame you let something that has little to no effect on you ruin your experience.

Well some people have principles. And it does affect people. For example, people can PvP with better gear without investing anything (except cash). In PvP everybody are affected.


When was this game ever about PvP? Its pretty much been stated that Blizzard will not balance the game around PvP, thus items will have as much meaning as imbalanced classes.
Nesquik
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom600 Posts
August 01 2011 14:24 GMT
#2816
On August 01 2011 23:18 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:12 Nesquik wrote:
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !



Such a shame you let something that has little to no effect on you ruin your experience.


It's not just this little thing, I've been following the news every since they announced D3 i just think it won't have that Diablo feeling that i had playing D1 & D2 for hours even day's. I just don't agree the way Blizzard are approaching this game.
Oh IMMvp won agian but EGHuK getting Ro8 is a way bigger deal - Gootecks
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 01 2011 14:25 GMT
#2817
On August 01 2011 23:23 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:21 phanto wrote:
On August 01 2011 23:18 demonik187 wrote:
On August 01 2011 23:12 Nesquik wrote:
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !



Such a shame you let something that has little to no effect on you ruin your experience.

Well some people have principles. And it does affect people. For example, people can PvP with better gear without investing anything (except cash). In PvP everybody are affected.


When was this game ever about PvP? Its pretty much been stated that Blizzard will not balance the game around PvP, thus items will have as much meaning as imbalanced classes.


Also, can you use the purchased items in PvP?
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Necrophantasia
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan299 Posts
August 01 2011 14:25 GMT
#2818
Damn this is really too bad. I was really psyched about Diablo III seeing as how they have driven WoW into the ground with Catalcysm.

Unfortunately they seem to have driven Diablo III into the ground even before release.

Blizzard's lost my sale, though I'm sure there won't be enough people giving up on buying the game even though Blizzard is falling into the abyss of hell, aka Activision.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 14:33:11
August 01 2011 14:26 GMT
#2819
On August 01 2011 23:18 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 23:12 Nesquik wrote:
I for one won't be buying D3 anymore. As a massive fan of D1 & D2 putting countless hours into it and having a great time and fun. This is to far for me. Sleep well Princess !



Such a shame you let something that has little to no effect on you ruin your experience.


Little to no effect? You're joking right?

Blizzard now supports there very thing that disgusts the vast majority of players, namely gold sellers, power levelers, character sellers alike.

Meaning there is no more "honor" i Diablo 3 (perhaps only in hardcore mode) because "lulz n00b, everyone can buy the gear you have". If you haven't noticed itemization is a huuuuuuuuuge thing in D3 and Blizzard ruining it means they pretty much ruin the effort put into the game for many of us.

I for one will definetely not buy the game either. This step was too big and in the wrong direction. The same reason I stopped playing Activision FPS games, because they too are going in an awful direction where soon more money = better gamer rather than hours spent/practiced.
Logikz
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States65 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 14:28:50
August 01 2011 14:28 GMT
#2820
As someone who made thousands of dollars playing diablo 2, I think the new AH is going to be great. A lot of people took advantage of that stuff and tried to scam people of their money and such, now it's going to go through legit methods. People are going to do it anyway.
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