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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 12:08 GMT
#3241
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 01 2013 12:26 GMT
#3242
Starting in desert just seems so awesome. First religion pretty much guaranteed if you grab +1 faith from desert tiles, and obviously Petra if you get it.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
August 01 2013 12:38 GMT
#3243
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

Yeah, getting the good wonders on deity is impossible
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2013 13:02 GMT
#3244
On August 01 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

Yeah, getting the good wonders on deity is impossible

Just roll Tradition Ramses with a Marble start and all the worlds wonders will be yours :D
"Yeah buddy"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
August 01 2013 13:08 GMT
#3245
On August 01 2013 22:02 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

Yeah, getting the good wonders on deity is impossible

Just roll Tradition Ramses with a Marble start and all the worlds wonders will be yours :D

Well, until about the renaissance everybody will be outteching you, so they have a headstart. Unless you manage to rush GL, then you have a chance... but it's REALLY hard to get GL on deity, even as Ramses :p
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 14:39:52
August 01 2013 14:39 GMT
#3246
A favourable start with a few forests to chop definitely helps with pushing GL on higher difficulties.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 01 2013 15:14 GMT
#3247
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.


I imagine that's how serial killers are born:

"Sweet! My petra will be complete in 1 turn and my city will be one the best in game!"

*hits next turn*
Petra has been completed by a civilization far away!

*punches the nearest small animals*

xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 15:20:39
August 01 2013 15:19 GMT
#3248
On August 02 2013 00:14 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.


I imagine that's how serial killers are born:

"Sweet! My petra will be complete in 1 turn and my city will be one the best in game!"

*hits next turn*
Petra has been completed by a civilization far away!

*punches the nearest small animals*


I've definitely raged after losing Petra and generally abandon the game. You have to sell out so hard to get Petra that if you miss it, you're kinda screwed on the higher difficulties.

EDIT: My favorite near miss of Petra was watching the Huns build it one turn before I did. I looked at their capital, and the fuckers had ONE desert tile. ONE!
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 01 2013 16:11 GMT
#3249
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

1 turn before the research for the gw isnt as bad as 1 turn before you finish yours...especially if you just burnt a ge for it.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:46:40
August 01 2013 18:36 GMT
#3250
Could someone please break down exactly what 'great works' do (art,music,writing)? I'm only on my 2nd game and I really don't understand if I should be using culture bombs or creating great works or what. I won my first game with cluture tourism, so I don't really want to do that this game.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2013 19:19 GMT
#3251
great works generate 2 culture and tourism each turn, more of themed with other works in a wonder.

Great artists, musicians and writers work like other great people, you should make them make works of art untill modern era ca. then do golden age and culture bomb etc.

Even if you aren't going for culture victory you should still try to get the guilds at least for some minor tourism to protect you from other ideologies.
"Yeah buddy"
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
August 01 2013 20:01 GMT
#3252
Doesn't culture defend you? Not tourism? Or am I wrong?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#3253
On August 02 2013 05:01 Complete wrote:
Doesn't culture defend you? Not tourism? Or am I wrong?

culture defends you against being influenced by the other ai but i think tourism is what defends you against ideology.

i wouldnt bother with great musicians until the modern age -- all great workers acts cap at the moment of creation (or at least i know for sure musicians are that) so if you get a bunch of early era musicians their culture bomb value will be like 200-300, meaningless by the time you actually want to use them in the industrialish and onward era. (unless, has anyone tried an early culture rush? does it ever work? hard to imagine how it would, youd have to have crazy tourism early...maybe as byzantium that piety thing that gives you +2 tourism, and then your 3 things are all faith buildings and you rush towards artist guilds quickly? seems super wonky). Makes much more sense to save them, as late as even the internet perhaps and then faith buy them and spawn the so you can get 5000-6000 culture attacks per musician. Unless there is some culture run away you should be able to submit them

Anyways, onto other things. How do you guys do a domination victory by reneisance? I've been trying it with zulus but after you take out a civ or two everyone hates you, so no more trades and even though the imp is truly truly glorious and the zulu experience bonus + honor experience bonus means you have a bunch of super upgraded xbowmen and impi running around eventually someone gets to industrial way ahead of you and its gg out.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#3254
The reformation tourism thing is a really easy way to win king and I think emperor on Pangea. Some people had like 170 turns or maybe faster wins on these difficulties. Obviously not gonna win you the game on higher difficulties though, if only because AI prioritizes all the faith building beliefs so that it's almost impossible to get 2 of them.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#3255
Just like MadDjinn did, go autocracy and get the spy steal faster tenent.
That why you can quickly catch up in tech.

as for trade, just find some city states and trade with them :p
"Yeah buddy"
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#3256
On August 01 2013 23:39 Nekovivie wrote:
A favourable start with a few forests to chop definitely helps with pushing GL on higher difficulties.


Doesn't AI start with writing on diety? I'm pretty sure that some AI will begin GL on turn 1 so it's not ever worth rushing to it.
"See you space cowboy"
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#3257
what are people's favorite map size to play this game (# of city states/civs)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 23:43 GMT
#3258
I've seen Great Library go on turn 35 on Deity, which is beatable with a really lucky start as an Egyptian. Then again I've seen it go at turn 30 which you just can't achieve.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 02 2013 02:55 GMT
#3259
I love playing Venice but damn starting in the middle of Europe with no CS less than 6 moves away is a pain and a bad bad way to start. Then starting in SE Asia and having Attila as a neighbor, takes on puppet and a stalemate for 1.5k years and stuck at 2 cities has left me nearly behind.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
August 02 2013 03:02 GMT
#3260
What happen when you adopt ideology that someone has already adopted? For example, if i pick order when someone already open 5 of them? Do i get all 5 of that perks?
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