• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:44
CEST 16:44
KST 23:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors0Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event8Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results02026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors BW General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1863 users

Civilization V + DLC's, G&K, BNW - Page 163

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 161 162 163 164 165 192 Next
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 12:08 GMT
#3241
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 01 2013 12:26 GMT
#3242
Starting in desert just seems so awesome. First religion pretty much guaranteed if you grab +1 faith from desert tiles, and obviously Petra if you get it.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18285 Posts
August 01 2013 12:38 GMT
#3243
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

Yeah, getting the good wonders on deity is impossible
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2013 13:02 GMT
#3244
On August 01 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

Yeah, getting the good wonders on deity is impossible

Just roll Tradition Ramses with a Marble start and all the worlds wonders will be yours :D
"Yeah buddy"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18285 Posts
August 01 2013 13:08 GMT
#3245
On August 01 2013 22:02 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

Yeah, getting the good wonders on deity is impossible

Just roll Tradition Ramses with a Marble start and all the worlds wonders will be yours :D

Well, until about the renaissance everybody will be outteching you, so they have a headstart. Unless you manage to rush GL, then you have a chance... but it's REALLY hard to get GL on deity, even as Ramses :p
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 14:39:52
August 01 2013 14:39 GMT
#3246
A favourable start with a few forests to chop definitely helps with pushing GL on higher difficulties.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 01 2013 15:14 GMT
#3247
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.


I imagine that's how serial killers are born:

"Sweet! My petra will be complete in 1 turn and my city will be one the best in game!"

*hits next turn*
Petra has been completed by a civilization far away!

*punches the nearest small animals*

xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 15:20:39
August 01 2013 15:19 GMT
#3248
On August 02 2013 00:14 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.


I imagine that's how serial killers are born:

"Sweet! My petra will be complete in 1 turn and my city will be one the best in game!"

*hits next turn*
Petra has been completed by a civilization far away!

*punches the nearest small animals*


I've definitely raged after losing Petra and generally abandon the game. You have to sell out so hard to get Petra that if you miss it, you're kinda screwed on the higher difficulties.

EDIT: My favorite near miss of Petra was watching the Huns build it one turn before I did. I looked at their capital, and the fuckers had ONE desert tile. ONE!
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 01 2013 16:11 GMT
#3249
On August 01 2013 21:08 Scip wrote:
Petra dude, I once had a perfect start for Petra, like 9 desert hills, I beeline currency as hard as I can, detouring just to pottery for granary (got some wheat) and then 1 turn before currency finishes, Petry has been built.. about 2 turns after Hanging Gardens.

1 turn before the research for the gw isnt as bad as 1 turn before you finish yours...especially if you just burnt a ge for it.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 18:46:40
August 01 2013 18:36 GMT
#3250
Could someone please break down exactly what 'great works' do (art,music,writing)? I'm only on my 2nd game and I really don't understand if I should be using culture bombs or creating great works or what. I won my first game with cluture tourism, so I don't really want to do that this game.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2013 19:19 GMT
#3251
great works generate 2 culture and tourism each turn, more of themed with other works in a wonder.

Great artists, musicians and writers work like other great people, you should make them make works of art untill modern era ca. then do golden age and culture bomb etc.

Even if you aren't going for culture victory you should still try to get the guilds at least for some minor tourism to protect you from other ideologies.
"Yeah buddy"
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
August 01 2013 20:01 GMT
#3252
Doesn't culture defend you? Not tourism? Or am I wrong?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#3253
On August 02 2013 05:01 Complete wrote:
Doesn't culture defend you? Not tourism? Or am I wrong?

culture defends you against being influenced by the other ai but i think tourism is what defends you against ideology.

i wouldnt bother with great musicians until the modern age -- all great workers acts cap at the moment of creation (or at least i know for sure musicians are that) so if you get a bunch of early era musicians their culture bomb value will be like 200-300, meaningless by the time you actually want to use them in the industrialish and onward era. (unless, has anyone tried an early culture rush? does it ever work? hard to imagine how it would, youd have to have crazy tourism early...maybe as byzantium that piety thing that gives you +2 tourism, and then your 3 things are all faith buildings and you rush towards artist guilds quickly? seems super wonky). Makes much more sense to save them, as late as even the internet perhaps and then faith buy them and spawn the so you can get 5000-6000 culture attacks per musician. Unless there is some culture run away you should be able to submit them

Anyways, onto other things. How do you guys do a domination victory by reneisance? I've been trying it with zulus but after you take out a civ or two everyone hates you, so no more trades and even though the imp is truly truly glorious and the zulu experience bonus + honor experience bonus means you have a bunch of super upgraded xbowmen and impi running around eventually someone gets to industrial way ahead of you and its gg out.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#3254
The reformation tourism thing is a really easy way to win king and I think emperor on Pangea. Some people had like 170 turns or maybe faster wins on these difficulties. Obviously not gonna win you the game on higher difficulties though, if only because AI prioritizes all the faith building beliefs so that it's almost impossible to get 2 of them.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#3255
Just like MadDjinn did, go autocracy and get the spy steal faster tenent.
That why you can quickly catch up in tech.

as for trade, just find some city states and trade with them :p
"Yeah buddy"
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#3256
On August 01 2013 23:39 Nekovivie wrote:
A favourable start with a few forests to chop definitely helps with pushing GL on higher difficulties.


Doesn't AI start with writing on diety? I'm pretty sure that some AI will begin GL on turn 1 so it's not ever worth rushing to it.
"See you space cowboy"
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#3257
what are people's favorite map size to play this game (# of city states/civs)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 01 2013 23:43 GMT
#3258
I've seen Great Library go on turn 35 on Deity, which is beatable with a really lucky start as an Egyptian. Then again I've seen it go at turn 30 which you just can't achieve.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 02 2013 02:55 GMT
#3259
I love playing Venice but damn starting in the middle of Europe with no CS less than 6 moves away is a pain and a bad bad way to start. Then starting in SE Asia and having Attila as a neighbor, takes on puppet and a stalemate for 1.5k years and stuck at 2 cities has left me nearly behind.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
August 02 2013 03:02 GMT
#3260
What happen when you adopt ideology that someone has already adopted? For example, if i pick order when someone already open 5 of them? Do i get all 5 of that perks?
Prev 1 161 162 163 164 165 192 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14:00
Season 2 - May 2026
RotterdaM654
uThermal425
IndyStarCraft 135
SteadfastSC109
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 654
uThermal 425
mouzHeroMarine 193
IndyStarCraft 135
Railgan 130
SteadfastSC 109
BRAT_OK 81
MindelVK 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 67141
EffOrt 1518
Horang2 1259
Shuttle 753
Hyuk 646
ggaemo 616
Rush 307
Soma 274
firebathero 261
Leta 199
[ Show more ]
Pusan 160
PianO 123
Sharp 88
Last 83
actioN 75
ToSsGirL 53
Barracks 51
Hm[arnc] 49
Sea.KH 48
zelot 21
Sacsri 21
Rock 18
Terrorterran 17
JulyZerg 16
IntoTheRainbow 15
yabsab 15
Noble 15
GoRush 14
Icarus 9
Shine 5
Dota 2
qojqva1830
XaKoH 581
monkeys_forever205
Fuzer 164
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor367
Other Games
singsing2728
B2W.Neo1471
Liquid`RaSZi1156
Beastyqt830
KnowMe235
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV672
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream62
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 5
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV345
League of Legends
• Jankos2721
Upcoming Events
BSL
4h 16m
IPSL
4h 16m
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
9h 16m
Replay Cast
18h 16m
Wardi Open
19h 16m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 16m
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Snow vs Flash
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
1d 20h
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
3 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.