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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 12:45:49
July 31 2013 10:29 GMT
#3201
Looks impossible to balance 43 civs anyway but still some are really crappy like danemark. But to be honest some civs would be instantly buffed if pre industrial melee was better against range. To be honest i think they should just remove the city backfire when you attack with melee and most of my problems with them would go away.

As a side note I hope their usual fall patch delivers...
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 31 2013 14:59 GMT
#3202
On July 31 2013 12:33 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
Is it me, or do certain civs get way better starting locations than others? I've been rolling some American starts, basically all of which have been ridiculous.


I'm sure that factors into the start bias, doesn't it?

I always knew that civs had certain built-in start biases for terrain types (jungle, desert, coastal, etc). However, what I am talking about here is that the Americans seem to get a lot of starts with high food and high production tiles. I'm seeing a lot of wheat and hills with my American starts. However, when I play someone like the Arabs, I hardly see any hills or any food bonuses outside of a lone cow. What I am wondering is whether the devs manipulated the quality of starts for certain civs that are perceived as having weaker UAs/UUs than the others. Frankly, having a good, high food and high production capital site with potentially one good second city site is more important for winning than anything else.

For example, in my current American game, I have a coastal capital on a river that has 2 wheat, 2 salt, 1 fish, 1 horses, and a bunch of hills. My second city is arguably more ridiculous. It has 2 wheat, 4 fish, 3 salt, 1 cow, a bunch of hills, and is also a coastal start. It's pretty hard to lose with two cities like those.

Just as a side note, I settled my third city next to Kilimanjaro and am cranking out high-altitude trained minuteman for some autocratic shenanigans.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 31 2013 15:47 GMT
#3203
On July 31 2013 23:59 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 12:33 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 31 2013 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
Is it me, or do certain civs get way better starting locations than others? I've been rolling some American starts, basically all of which have been ridiculous.


I'm sure that factors into the start bias, doesn't it?

I always knew that civs had certain built-in start biases for terrain types (jungle, desert, coastal, etc). However, what I am talking about here is that the Americans seem to get a lot of starts with high food and high production tiles. I'm seeing a lot of wheat and hills with my American starts. However, when I play someone like the Arabs, I hardly see any hills or any food bonuses outside of a lone cow. What I am wondering is whether the devs manipulated the quality of starts for certain civs that are perceived as having weaker UAs/UUs than the others. Frankly, having a good, high food and high production capital site with potentially one good second city site is more important for winning than anything else.

For example, in my current American game, I have a coastal capital on a river that has 2 wheat, 2 salt, 1 fish, 1 horses, and a bunch of hills. My second city is arguably more ridiculous. It has 2 wheat, 4 fish, 3 salt, 1 cow, a bunch of hills, and is also a coastal start. It's pretty hard to lose with two cities like those.

Just as a side note, I settled my third city next to Kilimanjaro and am cranking out high-altitude trained minuteman for some autocratic shenanigans.


America--bringing good ol' American freedoms since 4000BC
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 31 2013 15:59 GMT
#3204
On July 31 2013 19:29 rezoacken wrote:To be honest i think they should just remove the city backfire when you attack with melee and most of my problems with them would go away..


Hmm, this would be interesting, and help to make attacking cities more viable with melee armies. Currently if you don't bring archers you might as well go home.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 31 2013 16:19 GMT
#3205
I never attack a city unless I have a shitload of catapults/trebuchets/cannons.

I agree with the suggestion
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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 31 2013 17:16 GMT
#3206
On August 01 2013 01:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
I never attack a city unless I have a shitload of catapults/trebuchets/cannons.

I agree with the suggestion


you are fine with conquering with composite bows & crossbows until the industrial eras
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 17:21:36
July 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#3207
Really? How come? I'm always scared to play as a very aggressive player because I feel that if you fuck up, you'll always be behind (multiplayer)
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Muecke
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany150 Posts
July 31 2013 17:44 GMT
#3208
I just finished a Game with Marokko. I had to start War early because Babylon expanded in my territory and Zulu just declared War on me. So from Round 150 on everybody else hated me! I never had any friendships declarations the whole game. I could not get anyone to like me.
So I was forced into conquering everybody, but man the world congress made it hard. The embargoed me, citystates so I couldn't really the marokko-ultimate.
But the fun thing is. I won a Dimplomatic victory, thanks to all the citystates. :D
I started the game yesterday and played 9hrs straight on the first session. Its crazy how addicting this game is.

rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 31 2013 18:14 GMT
#3209
On August 01 2013 02:44 Muecke wrote:
I just finished a Game with Marokko. I had to start War early because Babylon expanded in my territory and Zulu just declared War on me. So from Round 150 on everybody else hated me! I never had any friendships declarations the whole game. I could not get anyone to like me.
So I was forced into conquering everybody, but man the world congress made it hard. The embargoed me, citystates so I couldn't really the marokko-ultimate.
But the fun thing is. I won a Dimplomatic victory, thanks to all the citystates. :D
I started the game yesterday and played 9hrs straight on the first session. Its crazy how addicting this game is.



Congrats and not wanting to diminish your game but this is a prime example of why I will probably deactivate Diplo Victory for now until fixed I feel its often an easy way out fr the player or a pain in the ass when some AI is close to it before any other possible victories.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
July 31 2013 18:34 GMT
#3210
On August 01 2013 03:14 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 02:44 Muecke wrote:
I just finished a Game with Marokko. I had to start War early because Babylon expanded in my territory and Zulu just declared War on me. So from Round 150 on everybody else hated me! I never had any friendships declarations the whole game. I could not get anyone to like me.
So I was forced into conquering everybody, but man the world congress made it hard. The embargoed me, citystates so I couldn't really the marokko-ultimate.
But the fun thing is. I won a Dimplomatic victory, thanks to all the citystates. :D
I started the game yesterday and played 9hrs straight on the first session. Its crazy how addicting this game is.



Congrats and not wanting to diminish your game but this is a prime example of why I will probably deactivate Diplo Victory for now until fixed I feel its often an easy way out fr the player or a pain in the ass when some AI is close to it before any other possible victories.


I think I'll follow your lead my next game. I agree entirely.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 31 2013 18:40 GMT
#3211
The only problem with disabling diplomatic victories is that it skews the AI's behavior towards forsaking city-states, making it too easy for the play to gain and maintain alliances.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 31 2013 18:54 GMT
#3212
On August 01 2013 03:40 xDaunt wrote:
The only problem with disabling diplomatic victories is that it skews the AI's behavior towards forsaking city-states, making it too easy for the play to gain and maintain alliances.


Didnt know that if thats true.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 31 2013 19:01 GMT
#3213
I disabled diplomatic victories as well.

It is kinda true what xDaunt said, it will make some AI disregard city states, those who try to go for diplomatic victory will of course not try that and because of that not try to get a lot of CS friends. But others like Siam, Alex and Austria will still take CS allies because that is part of their personality
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 31 2013 19:03 GMT
#3214
Guys, maybe some of you may help me. I have a problem with my interface: it seems that the tourism and trade stuff is messed up. To the right of the gold coin in the UI, i have this 'TXT_KEY_TOP_PANEL_INTERNATIONAL_TRADE_ROUTES'. I think it's a problem with the game XML's files, since it also happens in the culture tab (displayed with TXT_KEY_CULTURE_OVERVIEW_TT')

Do you know how to resolve this annoying bug? I red that many people had the problem for example with city names, but in my case it's just on tourism and trade stuff
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
July 31 2013 19:05 GMT
#3215
A game re-install would probably be the best way to fix that.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Muecke
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany150 Posts
July 31 2013 19:08 GMT
#3216
Something wrong in that screenshot...

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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
July 31 2013 19:16 GMT
#3217
Needs more pyramids.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 31 2013 19:23 GMT
#3218
Lack of Pizza Hut near those Pyramids.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18283 Posts
July 31 2013 21:38 GMT
#3219
global warming
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 31 2013 21:47 GMT
#3220
Am I alone in thinking the step between Prince and King difficulty is too big? I win every prince game but when I play King I have no chance wish there was something in between
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