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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 31 2013 06:21 Ramong wrote: I myself like Poland a lot, won every victory type with them on diety. really? on a normal map like continents or pangea /8 ais and everything?respect. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
If anyone is interested, I'm playing denmark on small continents, standard game. No guarantees that I'll finish the whole game (I tend to ragequit a lot) but so far it's going okay. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 31 2013 05:39 Emnjay808 wrote: What are the top tier civs to play. So far I heard it was Babylon and Spain. Spain is not a top tier civ unless you believe in luck. Because you can either find El Dorado on turn 15 and get 1000 gold. And thus win. Or you find nothing or old faithful -- after someone else found it -- and now you have almost no bonuses and a kind of cool but expensive reneinsance army. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
Lake Victoria and Great Barrier Reef are great as well On July 31 2013 09:00 Sub40APM wrote: really? on a normal map like continents or pangea /8 ais and everything?respect. Yes, standard size, standard speed, usually on continents. though I did die some times before I got the domination victory with them. Both the Zulu and Asherbanapalapalapal are better for that | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
So in order to protect your city from unwanted influence you will have to convert all the cities around it to your religion too. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12267 Posts
On July 31 2013 12:27 xDaunt wrote: Is it me, or do certain civs get way better starting locations than others? I've been rolling some American starts, basically all of which have been ridiculous. I'm sure that factors into the start bias, doesn't it? | ||
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Kamille
Monaco1035 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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United States41117 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 31 2013 10:23 Ramong wrote: Spain is luck based that is true, but Spain with the Fountain of Youth are the most OP in the game, I mean 20 happiness. Lake Victoria and Great Barrier Reef are great as well Yes, standard size, standard speed, usually on continents. though I did die some times before I got the domination victory with them. Both the Zulu and Asherbanapalapalapal are better for that i am actually shocked, especially culture victory. usually some liberty ai will go super wide and have 100-200 tourism by modern age...how do you catch up to that? other than of course pillaging their shit... But yes, Spain sure. Any one of the religion mountains + one with nature = first and powerful religion. King solomons mines + one with nature = 12 hammers + 4 faith... but like i said, what if the two wonders you find and can settle are grand mesa and old faithful? and you didnt find them first so you dont even get the money bonus ..its not brutally underpowered like denmark but still, kind of all in the hands of the map generator unlike any other civ. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 31 2013 12:27 xDaunt wrote: Is it me, or do certain civs get way better starting locations than others? I've been rolling some American starts, basically all of which have been ridiculous. ...well yea... brazil will start in some jungle swampland hellhole that almost begs to go pyramids just to make that stuff useful. Venice will start pretty far away from most other civs, so will the Huns. But obviously for very different reasons. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 31 2013 15:27 Erik.TheRed wrote: If you want to argue that their units/abilities are not fun from a pure gameplay perspective-- well that's a different argument. I think that is most people's argument -- at least its mine. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On July 31 2013 06:04 kukarachaa wrote: Really depends on what victory you going for, difficulties, maps etc. For example for deity Venice diplomatic victory is way easier than anything else at that difficulty. No idea why Crushinator considers Shoshone strongest or broken, they are great early game but don't have much going for them after, so unless you playing a duel, I don't see them being that powerful. So much you can do with Shoshone in the early game though. And a great start means you pretty much win. You can just kill 2-3 of your neighbours with contnual pathfinder production, turning 1-2 of them into composite bowmen, if you desire. Or you can take the culture/growth/faith bonuses while expanding like crazy, grabbing lots of land with the bonus. The combat bonus helps alot if your neighbours want to do anything about that. | ||
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
On July 31 2013 17:59 Crushinator wrote: So much you can do with Shoshone in the early game though. And a great start means you pretty much win. You can just kill 2-3 of your neighbours with contnual pathfinder production, turning 1-2 of them into composite bowmen, if you desire. Or you can take the culture/growth/faith bonuses while expanding like crazy, grabbing lots of land with the bonus. The combat bonus helps alot if your neighbours want to do anything about that. City spam with the shoshone is pretty hilarous. You not only get large territory when settling, but also gain tiles at the same rate, so you can just spam cities to grab as many luxuries as you can and deny them to your neighbours, then when they turn against you because you expand too quickly/too close from their frontiers, you crush them on defence with your bonus on your own land, then counter attack and grab even more cities. One of the most satisfying civ to play, I'd say. | ||
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