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ujonecro
United Kingdom846 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:42 Torte de Lini wrote: I thought bonus was under tradition. Is it liberty? if not, isn't tradition contradictory to the goal of spamming cities? Meritocracy is under Liberty and applies the -Unhappiness thing to all cities in the empire if they're connected. I think you're thinking of Monarchy which is the one in Tradition but only applies it to the capital. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I played my first BNW game as Shoshone and got about 4 fast cities and a 5th later on. I pretty much produced everything relevant ,but am not sure what to do next. I like the idea of spiraling a lot of cities during the first two eras, what would be the best religion to take advantage of this + the idea that my enemies hardly ever attack until modern era (I play multiplayer with friends) | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:15 MoonBear wrote: Did you know that Siam with the Jesuit Education Reformation belief can purchase Universities in addition to building their Wat? The abilities of the two buildings also stack. No I did not know that, but honestly that sounds more like a bug than a reason to go piety :p | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:53 Torte de Lini wrote: Yeah, I was. Thanks! I played my first BNW game as Shoshone and got about 4 fast cities and a 5th later on. I pretty much produced everything relevant ,but am not sure what to do next. I like the idea of spiraling a lot of cities during the first two eras, what would be the best religion to take advantage of this + the idea that my enemies hardly ever attack until modern era (I play multiplayer with friends) This is a guide I've been enjoying using recently. It's quite fun although I can't vouch for its effectiveness in multiplayer because I don't play multiplayer. On July 30 2013 06:57 Ramong wrote: No I did not know that, but honestly that sounds more like a bug than a reason to go piety :p Yah it's a bug. But hey, it's hilarious! Make a couple of side cities in heavy jungle areas, ship some Food there so it grows fast and then Faith buy all the Science buildings. Eat your heart out Korea. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
At least on emperor I am still able to expand faster than the AI, which obviously helped in the middle- to late game but I got dow´d from monty, Darius and Babylon because of my aggressive expanding. I barely held them off (and the conquered them except Darius) and then started to catch up with the leading civs (Suleiman, Pacal and Rameses who was on his way to a culture victory). Though I was behind in tech in the industrial era my production was pretty sick and I was able to overwhelm Rameses and shortly after claim my victory with heavy use of naval warfare and ofc bombers. I´d really wish the AI was better at naval war. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On July 30 2013 02:08 Ramong wrote: The Piety tree is kinda lackluster I agree. Its opener don't really help you with getting religion. Tradition is just such a strong tree compared to the 3 other ancient era trees. Liberty will only be good if you play with the "plenty resources" or more enabled since you can rarely found more than 3 or 4 cities on immortal/diety. Honor is just meh, and same with Piety ohh and liberty are great for domination as well, but I rarely play that :p though I guess going Piety with Theodora could be fun :p I dunno, the only game I won on Deity (diplomatic victory), I went Liberty/Commerce... although I had a secluded spot and lots of open space, so that helped I'm sure. I think Tradition is the "standard" opening, but it really depends. Not sure if coincidence, but the last two times I rolled Denmark, I had multiple neighbors in my face and had to pick Honor just to survive. Pretty hilarious how it went- first game I was surrounded and DoW'd by three AI's early (I should have ss'd it) but without the early citadel itwould have been impossible even though I still lost both times (second time was more my mistake). Don't have much experience with the piety tree, but tried it after taking the Tradition opening before and seemed to be decent. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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eX Killy
Taiwan906 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:53 Torte de Lini wrote: Yeah, I was. Thanks! I played my first BNW game as Shoshone and got about 4 fast cities and a 5th later on. I pretty much produced everything relevant ,but am not sure what to do next. I like the idea of spiraling a lot of cities during the first two eras, what would be the best religion to take advantage of this + the idea that my enemies hardly ever attack until modern era (I play multiplayer with friends) same idea as starcraft, the earlier you expand the stronger you will be later on. especially with shoshone you can land grab easily and deny your opponent good land. piety is good if you can get the start. gems or pearls or enough quarries are decent. ofc tundra/desert folklore are the best. if all else fails, just be spain - that shit's fucked. either way, you want Stonehenge, chop trees for it as if you're doing a GL rush and get it before turn 30 and you're pretty much set to be first to a religion, which is important. get pagodas (you need these badasses) and get either monasteries or mosque, and stronger prophets or cheaper missionaries. first founder belief doesn't really matter, you can choose depending on ur civ ( tithe or papal primacy or burial). get cheaper faith purchase with piety and get pagodas in all your cities before you pass medieval. proceed to laugh at your opponents because you're running 50 faith per turn. save faith up and buy scientists to bulb labs or for that GE to smash out some big wonders or buy artists/musicians/writers and win through tourism. @complete, put your missionary beside the city that you want to convert and hit spread religion. they can walk into other ppl's borders without declaring war or having open borders, but without open borders they will lose 250 strength per turn (out of default 1000) which means they will convert less and less population and become less and less effective. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
Though if your cities are close your faith will spread naturally. Nothing wrong with using missionaries to spread your faith to your cities. You don't NEED open borders to spread it to the other civ, but if you don't have open borders your missionaries strength will decay. Faith can be used for A LOT other than buying missionaries, great prophets for example. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
Not from them, but from the other CS | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On July 30 2013 12:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Eh. that means he is suffering a 75% when it comes to research. After a while you can just kick the whole rotten structure in and raze, raze, raze. He's leading the tech race currently. But yes, I'm setting myself up to dish out a money-fueled, autocracy beat down. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 30 2013 12:14 Torte de Lini wrote: Which civ would be best for these early fast-expansions? Shoshone are the kings of the game, lords of all, the most broken civilization known to man. | ||
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