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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 28 2019 23:17 GMT
#128181
Why watch Babylonia for Waifus when MHXX isn't in it?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
November 29 2019 03:55 GMT
#128182
On November 28 2019 21:52 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2019 09:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm no nasuverse noob, just out of the loop with FGO.

Well then you can be our guinea pig and do as Icehism says and just go into the FGO anime cold. Tell us what you think. Don't watch or read anything else including what's here. Although, since if you have been reading our posts, you've gotten tons more information and story and explanation about the anime than the anime will give you, so you aren't exactly the best test subject.

to be honest i've barely read any of those posts.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17789 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-30 13:32:56
November 29 2019 12:54 GMT
#128183
On November 28 2019 21:52 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2019 09:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm no nasuverse noob, just out of the loop with FGO.

Well then you can be our guinea pig and do as Icehism says and just go into the FGO anime cold. Tell us what you think. Don't watch or read anything else including what's here. Although, since if you have been reading our posts, you've gotten tons more information and story and explanation about the anime than the anime will give you, so you aren't exactly the best test subject.


Well, I watched some FGO and FSN animes in the past in random order and without even knowing there were games. Wasn't all that bad, especially that the entire premise is rather simplistic. And really, I couldn't care less if there was some grand overarching story arc to it or not, it doesn't matter and is totally not required to enjoy the shows. You can go in blind and you'll be just fine.

Speaking of simplistic stuff, I've stumbled upon Cautious Hero recently. I appreciate the dumb fun and fumes of absurd, wouldn't for the life of me suspect that you could have a decent comedy out of OP protagonist being totally paranoid and overly cautious.

Edit:
Out of curiosity I've decided to check the FGO game:
"This app is incompatible with all of your devices."
Well, there goes me trying it out...

Edit2:
Got the game to work. It isn't really nothing but your standard fare gacha game, and there are better ones.
Also checked the Babylonia anime. Right now it feels like the worst entry in the series.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 29 2019 23:14 GMT
#128184
Anime is saved

ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
November 30 2019 05:58 GMT
#128185
Well... I don't love it, but all things considered, it actually looks okay.

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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 30 2019 13:59 GMT
#128186
I take back my analysis of Vinland Saga. I did think that one episode I complained about was unnecessary, but now that I see where the show was going, it's redeemed itself in my eyes for some previously slow pacing.

Episode 18 and 19, especially 18, were incredible. Awesome story and writing and amazing voice acting.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 30 2019 16:25 GMT
#128187
On November 30 2019 14:58 Spazer wrote:
Well... I don't love it, but all things considered, it actually looks okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4xhSBY-UY

He just killed two people at the end there.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 30 2019 19:21 GMT
#128188
damn, babylonia ep9 is a must-watch or anyone who likes Rin. No dramatic scenes like ep8 but just all-out Rin episode with lots of funny scenes
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 30 2019 23:40 GMT
#128189
I am tempted but no.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-01 06:16:57
December 01 2019 06:13 GMT
#128190
On December 01 2019 04:21 Toadesstern wrote:
damn, babylonia ep9 is a must-watch or anyone who likes Rin. No dramatic scenes like ep8 but just all-out Rin episode with lots of funny scenes


Yea but next episode tho.

https://twitter.com/FGOAP_ep7/status/1200973039602749440?s=20

It all started with that smile.
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8684 Posts
December 01 2019 20:57 GMT
#128191
On November 30 2019 22:59 travis wrote:
I take back my analysis of Vinland Saga. I did think that one episode I complained about was unnecessary, but now that I see where the show was going, it's redeemed itself in my eyes for some previously slow pacing.

Episode 18 and 19, especially 18, were incredible. Awesome story and writing and amazing voice acting.


Yeah, I agree. Honestly, this anime is so much better when it focuses on story and characters instead of fighting.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8684 Posts
December 03 2019 16:13 GMT
#128192
Just got hyped up because I thought they already announced Haikyuu s5 but it's just s4 which is going to air as a split cour. -.-
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-03 17:28:23
December 03 2019 17:17 GMT
#128193
I was thinking about how great Ascendance of a Bookworm is. At first I was just thinking this is an isekai done right. But it is more than that. The episodes might seem to be nothing more than talking heads, yet everytime when it ends it feels like no time has passed at all, that's how enjoyable it is. There's nothing that stands out as to why time passes so quickly; it's a complete mystery to me. Is it simply good pacing and seamless scene changes? I'm not sure what it is, but whatever it is, other anime directors should learn from it.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-03 19:30:30
December 03 2019 19:29 GMT
#128194
I think it's probably one of the best isekai that has aired in recent years. The pacing is fine, maybe slightly slow at one point, but it's picking up now. You have an MC who's likeable, hardworking and isn't OP like say, Kirito lol. The story is also great in the sense that there is a bit of conflict, internal so to speak but you also feel at peace while watching it and the story progression makes sense. You actually get to see the MC grow slowly over time and relationships and bonds are important. A hidden gem ~
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-06 04:55:21
December 06 2019 04:54 GMT
#128195
Anyone keeping up with the LoGH remake? This is the one that was released last year. They've been releasing more episodes for the last what, 3 months or so. I believe it's a movie released in chunks or something. We just hit the episode where + Show Spoiler +
Sieg ends up dying protecting Reinhard by stopping the assassination although the fact that a bazooka somehow managed to make it through tight security is funny.


Also, having watched a lot of CGI before, I am always amazed at the CGI used in the remake. I think this remake has probably the best CGI I've ever seen in an anime before. Even better than orange's CGI if I'm not mistaken and afaik, they are one of the best!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-07 20:38:04
December 07 2019 17:27 GMT
#128196
Haha Babylonia this week was great. Lucha energy~ Apparently the director for this ep is known for his comedy stuff and he nailed the scenes this week.
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
December 07 2019 21:50 GMT
#128197
On December 06 2019 13:54 BigFan wrote:
Anyone keeping up with the LoGH remake? This is the one that was released last year. They've been releasing more episodes for the last what, 3 months or so. I believe it's a movie released in chunks or something. We just hit the episode where + Show Spoiler +
Sieg ends up dying protecting Reinhard by stopping the assassination although the fact that a bazooka somehow managed to make it through tight security is funny.


Also, having watched a lot of CGI before, I am always amazed at the CGI used in the remake. I think this remake has probably the best CGI I've ever seen in an anime before. Even better than orange's CGI if I'm not mistaken and afaik, they are one of the best!

I think Die Neue These has done a pretty decent job of matching the general feel of the series, but they a little fall short of the OVAs in a lot of places.

+ Show Spoiler [For instance] +

[image loading]
This just straight up doesn't happen in DNP. Maybe this scene was totally invented in the OVA and isn't faithful to the book. I have no idea. However, this one second scene (literally) is so critical to Oberstein's characterization. Throughout the civil war, he's made out to be Machiavellian and manipulative. He deliberately drives a wedge between Reinhard and Kircheis which indirectly leads to the latter's death. The whole point of this scene is to make the viewer doubt their own conclusions. Why would Oberstein try to shield Reinhard? Isn't he supposed to be a self-serving bastard or is there more to him than that? What's his motivation?

[image loading]
I love this scene. The background fades to black as if to emulate Reinhard ignoring everything else, and also to focus the audience's attention. It's clearly still based in reality, as you can see his cape slide off the now hidden seat and the white shadow matching the stairs. His slow walk up to Kircheis, as if in disbelief. It matches Reinhard's and the audience's feelings perfectly.

In DNP:
[image loading]
We get this, it fades to black, and we go straight into the goodbye. That's fine, but it lacks finesse.

[image loading]
Another scene in the OVAs that they didn't replicate in DNP. After Reinhard asks Annerose about Kircheis, Annerose closes her eyes and the call fades into this scene, where Reinhard expresses his renewed confidence. It's a short piece of introspection, but it reestablishes his character, and wraps up the previous scene nicely.

If only Siegfried Kircheis were here to save the directing.


The little things matter a lot to me. They're not enough to ruin the series but it definitely makes it pale in comparison to the OVAs. While DNP has taken a lot of directing cues from the OVAs, their implementation just isn't as good in most cases.

If there's anything that does actually damage the series in my eyes, it's the fucking music. It's so lackluster and flat. If you played it to me outside of the context of the show, I'd assume it was royalty free.



I mean sure, you're never going to match Dvořák or Mahler, but goddamn I hate that OST.

On cgi... I can't agree at all. DNP doesn't really have anything going for it other than decent resolution on their models and okay looking explosions. Ignoring stylistic differences, it looks better than the OVAs but that's not exactly a high bar. What sets Orange apart isn't fancy effects or better technology - IMO their strength is their choreography and attention to detail.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 12 2019 05:15 GMT
#128198
On December 08 2019 06:50 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2019 13:54 BigFan wrote:
Anyone keeping up with the LoGH remake? This is the one that was released last year. They've been releasing more episodes for the last what, 3 months or so. I believe it's a movie released in chunks or something. We just hit the episode where + Show Spoiler +
Sieg ends up dying protecting Reinhard by stopping the assassination although the fact that a bazooka somehow managed to make it through tight security is funny.


Also, having watched a lot of CGI before, I am always amazed at the CGI used in the remake. I think this remake has probably the best CGI I've ever seen in an anime before. Even better than orange's CGI if I'm not mistaken and afaik, they are one of the best!

I think Die Neue These has done a pretty decent job of matching the general feel of the series, but they a little fall short of the OVAs in a lot of places.

+ Show Spoiler [For instance] +

[image loading]
This just straight up doesn't happen in DNP. Maybe this scene was totally invented in the OVA and isn't faithful to the book. I have no idea. However, this one second scene (literally) is so critical to Oberstein's characterization. Throughout the civil war, he's made out to be Machiavellian and manipulative. He deliberately drives a wedge between Reinhard and Kircheis which indirectly leads to the latter's death. The whole point of this scene is to make the viewer doubt their own conclusions. Why would Oberstein try to shield Reinhard? Isn't he supposed to be a self-serving bastard or is there more to him than that? What's his motivation?

[image loading]
I love this scene. The background fades to black as if to emulate Reinhard ignoring everything else, and also to focus the audience's attention. It's clearly still based in reality, as you can see his cape slide off the now hidden seat and the white shadow matching the stairs. His slow walk up to Kircheis, as if in disbelief. It matches Reinhard's and the audience's feelings perfectly.

In DNP:
[image loading]
We get this, it fades to black, and we go straight into the goodbye. That's fine, but it lacks finesse.

[image loading]
Another scene in the OVAs that they didn't replicate in DNP. After Reinhard asks Annerose about Kircheis, Annerose closes her eyes and the call fades into this scene, where Reinhard expresses his renewed confidence. It's a short piece of introspection, but it reestablishes his character, and wraps up the previous scene nicely.

If only Siegfried Kircheis were here to save the directing.


The little things matter a lot to me. They're not enough to ruin the series but it definitely makes it pale in comparison to the OVAs. While DNP has taken a lot of directing cues from the OVAs, their implementation just isn't as good in most cases.

If there's anything that does actually damage the series in my eyes, it's the fucking music. It's so lackluster and flat. If you played it to me outside of the context of the show, I'd assume it was royalty free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgKi1f_jkaI

I mean sure, you're never going to match Dvořák or Mahler, but goddamn I hate that OST.

On cgi... I can't agree at all. DNP doesn't really have anything going for it other than decent resolution on their models and okay looking explosions. Ignoring stylistic differences, it looks better than the OVAs but that's not exactly a high bar. What sets Orange apart isn't fancy effects or better technology - IMO their strength is their choreography and attention to detail.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I certainly don't think it's better than the original. The original had at least 100+ episodes and you had several movies to watch as well that gave you a lot of information. + Show Spoiler +
For instance, we got information about why Mittenmeyer and Reuentel were working with Sieg and Reinhard, but that information was never given in the current series. Likewise, there are a lot of things missing.

When I was watching that assassination scene, I thought I remembered Reinhard being on a much smaller platform and infront of his admirals only. I also vaguely recalled Oberstein trying to block the shot too so I'm glad that I didn't misremember that. Having said that, I also don't remember if the current running anime is on par episode-wise with the OVA and I would certainly have liked for them to include more information.

Here's the thing though: maybe it's because I watched the OVA, but it feels like you can tell by then what his motivation is. He has spoken repeatdly of not needing a #2 and that his wish (I believe he spoke of this in current series) is to get rid of the current dynasty and bring on another one, aka he will support Reinhard even if it includes his death if the whole system gets changed. You didn't really need that scene imo to get that point across, but it would've certainly been a really nice touch!


From my perspective, it comes down to the fact that it's much much easier to recommend it to someone who may not be as hardcore into anime compared to telling someone to watch 100+ episodes and some movies. I even balked at the idea when it presented years ago and only started to watch it once I got interested enough. On top of that, the quality isn't that bad. I agree that the resolution is decent and the explosions are okay, and maybe comparing it to Orange was a stretch, but most people aren't going to be paying attention to details tbh even if those details make things that much better.

Music was ok from my perspective. I listened to part of what you linked. Part of it was ok, not bad and some parts could be improved. I'm not much into audio and from my limited experience, it sounds just fine. It's not the highest quality, but it's also not the worst ever. I also found the OP quite memorable while I skipped the OP of the OVAs every time.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-12 18:46:57
December 12 2019 18:41 GMT
#128199
Guys, can you help you find a show I vaguely remember watching?

Edit: Ah I just went through all the "School/Romance" shows on MAL and I found it. It was called "Just Because!"

+ Show Spoiler +
It's a fairly standard high school romance/drama with multiple characters/couples. They're in their last year of high school. The main character comes back to his hometown after being away for the first years of high school (so he kinda renews his ties with his old friends). He's in some kind of troubled relationship with the student council president (I think she was red-headed, she also takes part in some kind of sports club). It's even more troubled because I think there is some sort of love triangle with a kouhai in the photography club. His best friend is taller than him, and there is this leitmotiv throughout the show where they play 2-player baseball like it's very important :D. The kouhai wins a photography contest with one of these baseball scenes. The best friend's love interest is a kind girl who has a lot of siblings and she takes care of them. I think at the end he decides not to go to university, to get a job and support her asap or something.

Does that ring any bell?

ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-12 18:47:48
December 12 2019 18:47 GMT
#128200
That's def a Toad or Miragee anime. I want to say it does, but I don't remember those slice of life anime too well.
EDIT: Well, good stuff!
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