EPTOn November 10 2019 00:26 Miragee wrote:
Dude, Chihayafuru s3 is running. Or are you waiting for it to finish first?
Dude, Chihayafuru s3 is running. Or are you waiting for it to finish first?
Finish. No point watching that airing.
Anime Discussion Thread - Page 6404
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Numy
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Finish. No point watching that airing. | ||
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Miragee
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Fair enough. I would normally do that, too, but I need something like this in my life right now... | ||
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Sentenal
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On November 09 2019 23:48 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I watched fate stay night, fate zero, that unlimited bladeworks movie, the first heaven feel movie, fate romania, half of fate encore, the FGO prologue movie and still feel a bit lost. We get it, you are a big fan of F/GO and you play the game, but if you don't want me to tell you that what you wrote is not true, you got to stop writing something that is demonstrably false. Hey now, you need to back up why you felt lost, as apparently thats something you need to justify! A brief infodump cliffnotes version of various "mechanics" are hardly enough to allow someone to jump into a story literally at the end of it. Each of the Sigularities are part of a single continuous, consecutive story. Its like comparing different arcs in Shounen anime, trying to tell someone "nah, you can jump right into the Android Arc in DBZ without having watched anything that came prior. Here, just watch this youtube video and you'll be finnneee." | ||
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Slaughter
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The singularities are all self contained stories with the greater goal of solving them all so you fix the incineration of humanity. One does not need to know the events prior to know what is going on. Solomon singularity being the exception to this. Human history got incinerated by Solomon and he sent 7 grails into various points in history to do it. Chaldea sends mages in the past to fix them and uses the only master left who summons servants to help him and has Mash. That is it. That is literally all you need to know to enjoy the anime. Watching all those other properties he listed are useless because they aren't related to the FGO story AT ALL besides that servants and mages are a thing and that holy grails are magical mcguffins. | ||
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On November 10 2019 07:55 Slaughter wrote: Maybe if he said what he is lost about? Perhaps reading Rome singularity to learn about how awesome Nero is or how Giles summed burnt french toast in Orleans because he like *really* loves Jeanne you guys. The early singularities add little to the story besides "there was a singularity there and we fixed it". The big reveal was in London showing that Solomon is behind it all and the Babylonia already showed that part. The singularities are all self contained stories with the greater goal of solving them all so you fix the incineration of humanity. One does not need to know the events prior to know what is going on. Solomon singularity being the exception to this. Human history got incinerated by Solomon and he sent 7 grails into various points in history to do it. Chaldea sends mages in the past to fix them and uses the only master left who summons servants to help him and has Mash. That is it. That is literally all you need to know to enjoy the anime. Watching all those other properties he listed are useless because they aren't related to the FGO story AT ALL besides that servants and mages are a thing and that holy grails are magical mcguffins. Yeah, because knowing the characters of Chaldea and the various returning servants in Babylonia doesn't matter at all. How dare he be lost! | ||
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Your basically arguing "if you don't every servants backstory you are lost" which is nonsense. I don't know much of Ushiwakamaru and Benkei's backstory from when they were alive either despite playing the game. All the servants they are meeting in Babylon might as well be new characters. You act like there is some extensive history with all these characters but there really isn't. | ||
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A lot of stuff you are equating to holes that people get lost in is more like extra flavor shit that players of the game can enjoy that anime onlys won't but its not essential information. MC/Mash/Roman/Davinci is covered in First Order and if your particularly interested the Babylonia episode 0. | ||
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Spazer
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No Guns Life has the most ridiculous MC character design. Decent cyberpunk romp. Honzuki no Gekokujou is an okay isekai. The lack of gamification alone makes this more watchable than most. The entire story works because of the knowledge gap of the MC vs everyone else, but some of it is pretty suspect. Like... how on earth does an entire society not know how to make broth? But yeah, pretty enjoyable show. Babylon has been okay. Reminds me a fair bit of Akumetsu. Someone's having fun with the cinematography. + Show Spoiler [Psycho Pass 3] + It's bizarre. A ton of time has passed, which is fine, but the changes make it unrecognizable. Apparently some of the movies are required watching? Why is Mika competent now? She was totally indoctrinated and utterly useless in 2. Why would she ever support bending the rules? Can't say I really care for the two new inspectors. They're too good, too competent, too morally sound. Detective Vision is dumb. They're unapologetically Gary Stus. Overall? Meh. The only reason I'm still watching is for the random cameos and to see how they'll end up handling the current events stuff. Kemono Michi blows. Kandagawa Jet Girls airs on AT-X. This is the only reason why anyone would watch this show. Granblue Fantasy still has an awful story. But at least it looks pretty. Houkago Saikoro Club is mediocre. Cute girls playing board games isn't a terrible idea, but there's not much to explore when they change the game every week. It ends up being more of a slice of life than anything else, and the characters aren't interesting enough to make it work. FGO... exists. Can't really put my finger on it, but the adaptation just feels half-assed to me. I don't even like the fights that much. Build Divers Re:rise is shockingly competent after the double disaster of Try and Build Divers. It's been a long time since the series felt like it was made by people that actually enjoy the franchise. The change in setting helped a ton here. The banana hair in the LoGH remake still bothers me. + Show Spoiler + Not that it matters, but why are they using swords? At least the battle axes had some logic behind it. | ||
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On November 10 2019 10:25 Sentenal wrote: Dangermousecatdog is right, you are way too fixated on looking at things from the perspective of someone who has read through it, are just taking everything you know for granted. MC/Mash/Roman/Da Vinci are barely covered at all. There is a ton of stuff that they go through for the first parts of the game, and its all just glossed over. Not to mention the player by that point in time knows exactly who Ushi and the rest are, and are therefore comfortable with them literally showing up out of nowhere with barely any explanation. We know exactly how and why they showed up: Gil summoned them. That is like saying "who are all these servants in FSN and Fate Zero...they came out of no where!" You meet random servants where ever you go in the fateverse, don't pretend fgo is the only one that you need bond 10 with in the game to understand why they are there. | ||
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I mean I assume the 1st time you saw Cu in Fate Stay Night you cried out "This game assumes I know Irish mythology? What garbage" | ||
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On November 10 2019 07:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: For the people who are anime only, grab those tissues. BNHA is about to get sad. And I mean depressing. This arc looks amazing. I caught some feels with the dichotomy of what was happening on the day that Deku went back to school. It's really showing well how everything that has been up until this point has been MOSTLY kids stuff compared to what the real heroes have to deal with. Now I just want to see how all of this rising action and foreshadowing pays off. | ||
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On November 11 2019 00:31 Unleashing wrote: I hope the arc has better pacing in animated format than it did drawn, between Hori being sick, some chapters missing pages and certain flashbacks it was rough to follow on a weekly basis. But I think in animated format it could definitely be good, because I do think it's a good arc, outside of some introduced quirks I think are just bad for the series. (That those quirks exist at all, that is) + Show Spoiler + Eri and Love Lover are two quirks that make absolutely no sense. (not a spoiler, you will see next arc) On November 10 2019 17:05 Vindicare605 wrote: This arc looks amazing. I caught some feels with the dichotomy of what was happening on the day that Deku went back to school. It's really showing well how everything that has been up until this point has been MOSTLY kids stuff compared to what the real heroes have to deal with. Now I just want to see how all of this rising action and foreshadowing pays off. The training camp arc was one of those life or death situations the kids found themselves in. The subsequent arcs (minus one or two) start to get really dark and brutal. I think next season sets up BNVA and it is awesome! | ||
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On November 10 2019 16:25 Slaughter wrote: Dude so don't even know Ushiwakamaru's lore and her story contribution before Babylon has been little to none. So yea ita not outrageous. She could be any heroic spirit, it literally does not matter from a story stand point what hero's Gil summoned. I mean I assume the 1st time you saw Cu in Fate Stay Night you cried out "This game assumes I know Irish mythology? What garbage" K, now I know you are trolling. Keep lying to new people, maybe you can get more people to drop it. | ||
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I've watched 4 previous fate series and 1.67 movies (heavens feel) and the FGO first origins movie. I've also watched El-Mellio Whodunnit but I'm not counting that one as a fate series. You want to know what I feel a bit lost about? You are plunged into essentially a fantasy world, but without the explanation that would go with a fantasy world. maybe the game is light on details too, but unless you played the game you don't know that. It's a constant feeling that things are not explained properly because the anime expects you to already know it already. It's a bit hard as it's a general feeling but I'll try, without having to rewatch everything and I'll probably miss lots. Wtf are magical beasts? They are just introduced as magical beasts. And that's all the information we get. The anime expects us to know what they are and where they come from as already as if we are familiar with them. They look like flesh and blood animals to me. I still have no fucking clue what Mash's powers are. I think there was one mention that she has the heroic spirit of a knight of the round table? Or she has the powers of one? At one point she uses her powers to summon the round table in the embassy, but its not a table but a way of contacting the people at Chaldea or a illusion or something and it's a total suprise. I still have no idea what that was about. The anime already expects us to be familiar with the character Mash and her powers intimately. The anime expects us to already be familiar with Enkidu and Merlin, as they are introduced as if the audience should at least know their names and some backstory beforehand. Maybe the audience isn't supposed to know, but the characters seem to have some sort of knowledge and it is jarring. WTF is Fou? Is it just a rabbit? A rabbit that can travel through time magically? It seems to have connection to Merlin? Fou is never explained. The anime just expects you to be familiar with Fou. Maybe in the game you don't know anything about Fou either, but if you don't play the game, you feel like something that should have been explained isn't explained at all. What's this about the holy grail. It's different from the holy grail that Gilgamesh has? What powers do both of these heroic spirit has? Also this Gilgamesh isn't a heroric spirit but seems to be some sort of god-king, but has the same powers but not armour as the heroic spirit gilgamesh, and he can summon other heroic spirits of his own somehow. Off hand reference to some old mage king wizard (can't remember the exact word) as some being who scattered 7 grails across time. How did he get these 7 metaphysical grails from? How did he scatter them? Is he the main antagonist then? An ally? A god? A natural force? The characters know of them, but the audience does not. The anime already expects us to know already. What was up with that random "evil spirits" under the city of Uruk that Ana was dealing with? Gilgamesh can't detect or care about them? It feel like it should be an important plot point, but it is dealt like an unimportant side story. What was up with the mysterious old begger? Feels like an easter egg character. Speaking of easter eggs, all the other heroric spirits in Uruk feels like easter eggs. Who is that half naked bald man with the sunken eyes and a polearm following the half naked japanese woman general anyways? Maybe he was introduced, but he is never interacted ever again. The anime expects you to have some familiarity with these characters already. Who is that mystery man in the underworld? Wtf is underworld? Merlin remarks that it seems like him. Can't remember the name. And then the anime moves on without care. The anime expects you to have some familiarity with that man already, even if Ritsuka does not. Chaldea seems to consist of exactly 2 people left. Romani and Leonardo da Vinci. That can't be right surely? Leonardo da vinci basically pops up with no real explanation either. Romani by comparison in Ep 0 gets some backstory as some sort of wandering mage as little as it is. World famous historical figure? Not a single explanation. The anime expects you to be familiar with the inner workings of chaldea from the previous 6 series that don't seem to exist. Maybe like you said, some of those things may not be important, or the game doesn't give that much more information than the anime. But you know that already from familiarity with the game and someone who hasn't played the game does not know that. Maybe Enkidu doesn't have a backstory and you know that, but I don't know that. To me he is just a mystery that is never explained properly and it just feels like the anime expects I should had known something from the game. Now imagine what someone who didn't watch 4 previous fate series, and 2 movies and FGO First origins will feel. I can't imagine what some who only watched FGO First Origins or nothing at all previously would think. They would have no clue, because FGO First Order has Ritsuki as the main viewpoint (who is the blandest main character ever btw, and the guy in last encore was a literal blank slate) and so doesn't bother explaining the world properly in the first place. | ||
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