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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-11 15:00:11
November 11 2019 14:59 GMT
#128081
There are SOME parts of the anime that are meant to be a mystery. Like for instance, the mysterious old begger, or the mysterious old man in the underworld, and who they are will eventually be elaborated on. Other stuff, like 'whats the underworld', or evil spirits under Uruk, or Enkidu, are instances of the game text offering a lot more exposition than the anime.

But for the most part, pretty much every other question up there is just something the players of the game would be very familiar with by this point in the story, that the anime assumes the viewer is too.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 11 2019 15:12 GMT
#128082
Yeah, that's exactly it. Everything is a mystery, and unlike someone who has played the game, I have no clue what is supposed to be a mystery, and what is a mystery because the anime thinks you should already know from the game.

Btw, I reread some of Slaughter's post, and I realised I just been spoilered on some bits. Thanks Slaughter, maybe don't reveal important plot points to people who don't play the game?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-11 17:29:55
November 11 2019 17:08 GMT
#128083
I spoiled nothing? Oh did I spoil that Nero is awesome? Sorry

Most of your concerns are literal mysteries that the story prevents and reveals to you or stuff you obviously haven't been paying attention, especially for someone who supposedly watched other Fate series and for what the the series itself have provided you.

What is Mash's powers? Apparently did not watch First Order.

Who/what is Gil? They literally spell it out for you but apparently you have no clue who the most iconic Fate villain is or what his deal is with his abilities.

Who is Merlin? Really? Again one of the most famous mages in history. Yes he has knowledge and he keeps it to himself and reveals shit when he feels like it.

Babylonia is literally Enkidu's 1st appearance and his story will be told but you demand to know everything within the 1st quarter of the series and haven't even let it BREATHE before whining about it.

Anyone who played the game didn't know what Fou was at this point either *shrug*

an FGO player knew little about the mage king by this point. You summed it up nicely with sending 7 grails back to distort 7 parts of history *shrug* yet again you demand to know every little detail right off the bat.

Yea Chaldea is pretty much as far as anyone is concerned Romani and Davinci. As you could see in the anime there *are* others but they are just background. Again I said it before those 2 up to that point in the game are literally just info dump characters and their histories haven't been revealed. There is little to them besides what is presented in the anime to that point.

You seriously are overthinking it/ demanding the series answers everything right away and not letting the story gradually reveal things to you because you are determined to be insulted by it.

And to your point again

MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE FATE FANS HAVE FGO AS THEIR ENTRY POINT TO THE SERIES. First Order literally does the prologue which is what most Fate fans have as their 1st experience of the series (that is they did not watch all the shit you think matters). They seem to get around just fine.


So stop bringing up unrelated series that may as well confuse you because they are so different?
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-11 18:55:14
November 11 2019 18:54 GMT
#128084
Rejoice my anime brother and sisters, Kingdom season 3 is coming! :D

https://myanimelist.net/anime/40682/Kingdom_3rd_Season

Been a while since I watched the first 2 seasons. Maybe time for a rewatch :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 11 2019 19:37 GMT
#128085
Wow. I didn't expect it after so long. Wonder if it'll continue to improve the animation.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 11 2019 20:03 GMT
#128086
On November 12 2019 04:37 Numy wrote:
Wow. I didn't expect it after so long. Wonder if it'll continue to improve the animation.

Same. Heard that this next arc is going to be good and if I recall properly, it ended on a nice note.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 11 2019 22:34 GMT
#128087
Honestly I can't even remember how it ended. Think the girl was finally hardcore?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 04:54:19
November 12 2019 04:53 GMT
#128088
On November 12 2019 07:34 Numy wrote:
Honestly I can't even remember how it ended. Think the girl was finally hardcore?

Sorry, should've clarified. What I meant was that I remember thinking that they were setting up for another war arc or at least seemed like it though I don't remember the details. Been too long since I last watched it. As for the girl, I believe so. She left the group earlier, but that's where my memory of her ends.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2019 05:13 GMT
#128089
Anyone here watching High School Girl? The CGI felt a bit jarring in the first season, but you get used to it and this second season has been full of drama and funny situations from the get-go. Latest episode was also really good and set the stage for what could be a big turning point in the show.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 15:44:30
November 12 2019 15:42 GMT
#128090
On November 12 2019 02:08 Slaughter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I spoiled nothing? Oh did I spoil that Nero is awesome? Sorry

Most of your concerns are literal mysteries that the story prevents and reveals to you or stuff you obviously haven't been paying attention, especially for someone who supposedly watched other Fate series and for what the the series itself have provided you.

What is Mash's powers? Apparently did not watch First Order.

Who/what is Gil? They literally spell it out for you but apparently you have no clue who the most iconic Fate villain is or what his deal is with his abilities.

Who is Merlin? Really? Again one of the most famous mages in history. Yes he has knowledge and he keeps it to himself and reveals shit when he feels like it.

Babylonia is literally Enkidu's 1st appearance and his story will be told but you demand to know everything within the 1st quarter of the series and haven't even let it BREATHE before whining about it.

Anyone who played the game didn't know what Fou was at this point either *shrug*

an FGO player knew little about the mage king by this point. You summed it up nicely with sending 7 grails back to distort 7 parts of history *shrug* yet again you demand to know every little detail right off the bat.

Yea Chaldea is pretty much as far as anyone is concerned Romani and Davinci. As you could see in the anime there *are* others but they are just background. Again I said it before those 2 up to that point in the game are literally just info dump characters and their histories haven't been revealed. There is little to them besides what is presented in the anime to that point.

You seriously are overthinking it/ demanding the series answers everything right away and not letting the story gradually reveal things to you because you are determined to be insulted by it.

And to your point again

MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE FATE FANS HAVE FGO AS THEIR ENTRY POINT TO THE SERIES. First Order literally does the prologue which is what most Fate fans have as their 1st experience of the series (that is they did not watch all the shit you think matters). They seem to get around just fine.


So stop bringing up unrelated series that may as well confuse you because they are so different?


You completely spoiled about the 6 previous series and 7 holy grail things and solomon, which I only realised after I written all that about the old king mage wizard and then realised actually that 7 holy grails being spread was never mentioned in the anime, I actually got all that information from you guys and solomon (hey there can only be one Solomon in history right?) and put two and two together (Hey I am smart). So I guess at the end of FGO Babylonia, they fight Solomon as the big end boss and save humanity or something. Or not iI don't know, but you play the game and are revealing loads of things those who are watching the anime would not know to "prove" yourself right.

Maybe if you have to spoil the anime to "prove" that you can go into the anime without knowing beforehand you would realise that you completely wrong, but you are either trolling so hard or so blinkered you don't even realise it.

And stop with this MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE FATE FANS HAVE FGO AS THEIR ENTRY POINT TO THE SERIES bullshit. FGO babylonia has only been out for what 6 episodes? How the fuck is that even possible? The anime is not even complete yet as opposed to all the other complete and popular series, and you determine that most fate fans have FGO babylonia as their entry point. WTF?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 12 2019 17:22 GMT
#128091
On November 13 2019 00:42 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2019 02:08 Slaughter wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I spoiled nothing? Oh did I spoil that Nero is awesome? Sorry

Most of your concerns are literal mysteries that the story prevents and reveals to you or stuff you obviously haven't been paying attention, especially for someone who supposedly watched other Fate series and for what the the series itself have provided you.

What is Mash's powers? Apparently did not watch First Order.

Who/what is Gil? They literally spell it out for you but apparently you have no clue who the most iconic Fate villain is or what his deal is with his abilities.

Who is Merlin? Really? Again one of the most famous mages in history. Yes he has knowledge and he keeps it to himself and reveals shit when he feels like it.

Babylonia is literally Enkidu's 1st appearance and his story will be told but you demand to know everything within the 1st quarter of the series and haven't even let it BREATHE before whining about it.

Anyone who played the game didn't know what Fou was at this point either *shrug*

an FGO player knew little about the mage king by this point. You summed it up nicely with sending 7 grails back to distort 7 parts of history *shrug* yet again you demand to know every little detail right off the bat.

Yea Chaldea is pretty much as far as anyone is concerned Romani and Davinci. As you could see in the anime there *are* others but they are just background. Again I said it before those 2 up to that point in the game are literally just info dump characters and their histories haven't been revealed. There is little to them besides what is presented in the anime to that point.

You seriously are overthinking it/ demanding the series answers everything right away and not letting the story gradually reveal things to you because you are determined to be insulted by it.

And to your point again

MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE FATE FANS HAVE FGO AS THEIR ENTRY POINT TO THE SERIES. First Order literally does the prologue which is what most Fate fans have as their 1st experience of the series (that is they did not watch all the shit you think matters). They seem to get around just fine.


So stop bringing up unrelated series that may as well confuse you because they are so different?


You completely spoiled about the 6 previous series and 7 holy grail things and solomon, which I only realised after I written all that about the old king mage wizard and then realised actually that 7 holy grails being spread was never mentioned in the anime, I actually got all that information from you guys and solomon (hey there can only be one Solomon in history right?) and put two and two together (Hey I am smart). So I guess at the end of FGO Babylonia, they fight Solomon as the big end boss and save humanity or something. Or not iI don't know, but you play the game and are revealing loads of things those who are watching the anime would not know to "prove" yourself right.

Maybe if you have to spoil the anime to "prove" that you can go into the anime without knowing beforehand you would realise that you completely wrong, but you are either trolling so hard or so blinkered you don't even realise it.

And stop with this MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE FATE FANS HAVE FGO AS THEIR ENTRY POINT TO THE SERIES bullshit. FGO babylonia has only been out for what 6 episodes? How the fuck is that even possible? The anime is not even complete yet as opposed to all the other complete and popular series, and you determine that most fate fans have FGO babylonia as their entry point. WTF?


Haven't spoiled anything. The anime specifically mentioned solomon by name and what his deal is? You are just assuming things about the series then making leaps of logic to assume something is a spoiler (its not). Stop making shit up.

And yes FGO *is* Fate fans entry to the franchise for most of them...the game silly not the anime. My point was that First Order OVA is the games prologue chapter which explains all the basics for people to get them started. They don't need to watch other Fate shit to get into the FGO story. The more you talk the more I think you didn't bother to watch First Order or half pay attention while you watch anime.
Never Knows Best.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 18:12:14
November 12 2019 18:00 GMT
#128092
On November 13 2019 02:22 Slaughter wrote:

Haven't spoiled anything. The anime specifically mentioned solomon by name and what his deal is? You are just assuming things about the series then making leaps of logic to assume something is a spoiler (its not). Stop making shit up.
The anime doesn't mention Solomon ever. It also never mentions 7 grails. Stop making shit up. Most of your replies are just saying the viewer should just know things from the movie, which was never in the movie but you only know from the game. I just deduced things from your posts because you are spoilering the anime so hard. You are far up your trolling/fanboyism you don't even care/know.

Also who cares if the game is or isn't an entry to the franchise or not? What relevance does the game explaining things has to the anime not explaining things? We are talking about the anime and whether it is suitable to people who haven't watched fate before. In your attempts to explain that it is suitable to the uninitiated, you had to use information and spoilers from the game, but without that realisation that you are doing so somehow.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 19:24:21
November 12 2019 18:36 GMT
#128093
Yes the anime did name Solomon by name... What is with your selective ignorance? Just don't watch the thing if it triggers you so much Jesus.

My point about the game explaining things is that FIRST ORDER IS THE GAME. You kept bringing up how you watched "all these other Fate shows" like it meant anything. It does not as you don't need Fate background. Apparently you just never bothered to watch it. And no I didn't have to use spoilers to explain anything. You assume a lot based on what little information you apparently gleam from any given anime episode you consume.

For Fucks Sake I don't even remember the plot or what servants were there for the early singularities....they are that bad and irrelevant.
Never Knows Best.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 21:47:52
November 12 2019 21:17 GMT
#128094
Well shit Slaughter, if you to not only barefaced lie, and at the same time say that they have to play the fucking game to understand FGO babylonia, then maybe the audience wouldn't be fine just by watching the FGO prologue would they?

I watched 4 different fate series, 1.67 movies, and FGO First order. Yet I feel a bit lost. How do you think someone who hasn't even watched a single fate series will feel?

And what are you even bothering to claim I didn't watch? Apparently I didn't bother to watch "it". Wtf is "it"? Everything you write is "it" or abbreviated, it's impossible to know what you are even talking about, like saying FGO, and you mean the game instead of the anime we are talking about which you also called...FGO.

Actually you know what you are just insane. I wrote a whole list off stuff that gave me the feeling of feeling lost like you asked and you just tell me that I am supposed to know all this stuff already without realising you are proving yourself wrong. You've actually turned me off watching the anime now. I am just going to drop the anime. I was going to slog through it through a love of previous fate series, but you've convinced me it's not worth it. Only the animation is any good, the main characters are bland, the story is just trash, thanks for convincing me of that, I hope you are happy now.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-12 22:09:09
November 12 2019 22:05 GMT
#128095
I said it many times. IT is First Order OVA which everyone said you should watch before Babylonia. The other Fate series don't matter. Then getting desperate saying I was spoilering you.

I didn't say play the fucking game. I made the point that if people who use FGO the game as their entry point into Fate don't get lost and if First Order covers the prologue of the game then why are you whining so much when for those fans that is their entire exposure and I will say it again FIRST ORDER OVA covers the same material. So apparently you get confused the more you watch?

The shit you say confused you was stuff that you are meant to be in the dark. Christ it was 6 episodes in you didn't even let the show explain anything to you before you go whining. It is probably for the best you drop it because apparently you can't retain information. Good riddance.
Never Knows Best.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 12:39:09
November 13 2019 12:38 GMT
#128096
I've watched First Order OVA. I written this like 5 times already. Your insistence that I haven't watched it is just your delusion. Your supposing of information that you got from playing the game that you say is in First Order or Babylonia is also your delusion. But I've decided to drop FGO babylonia anyways. Thank you for being so rabidly toxic I decided to drop the series. I suppose you are happy now.
Aznupdown
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada318 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 14:55:00
November 13 2019 14:54 GMT
#128097
I'm enjoying this. Slaughter wouldn't it help if u quoted time/episode to help your argument it would probably solve this.
I said hiii
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 13 2019 18:53 GMT
#128098
^ lol. It's certainly an interesting convo that isn't moving anywhere.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 22:46:11
November 13 2019 22:44 GMT
#128099
I dont even know what they are discussing at this point.

An OVA being a good entry point for a franchise? The serie being confusing? Game being canon? Unintentional spoilers?

Haaalp.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 14 2019 06:16 GMT
#128100
Maybe I should get into Gintama instead of Fate
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