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sharkie
Austria18412 Posts
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UsedEgg3
126 Posts
Then after getting Varys killed, Tyrion immediately does for Jaime what Varys did for him, while giving a lame ass emotional speech about how nobody ever did anything for him but Jaime. WTF? This makes me upset. | ||
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semantics
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 13 2019 15:05 UsedEgg3 wrote: Are we not going to talk about how Tyrion snitched so hard on Varys, who literally saved the shit out of his life way harder than Jaime or Bronn ever did? I mean, Varys completely gave up his position of power in KL and risked himself to personally escort Tyrion out of the dungeons and into Essos. Then after getting Varys killed, Tyrion immediately does for Jaime what Varys did for him, while giving a lame ass emotional speech about how nobody ever did anything for him but Jaime. WTF? This makes me upset. Varys was always acting in the interest of the realm, it wasn't just to save Tyrion because they were buds. Varys up until recently was always conspiring to elevate the Targaryens to the throne and he believed Tyrion would've been a great asset to Dany. It's only in the past episode did they finally not see eye to eye and Tyrion had to get rid of Varys as he was not only throwing his support behind Jon but was already trying to have Dany poisoned. Turns out Tyrion bet the wrong horse. | ||
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UsedEgg3
126 Posts
On May 13 2019 15:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Turns out Tyrion bet the wrong horse. Well yeah everyone saw that coming. I'm just saying, you think he'd have a little more loyalty to the dude who saved his ass, regardless of what the motives were. If he did it for "the realm," then that's actually pretty high praise to Tyrion on top of the, you know, saving his life. The fact that he immediately turns around and betrays the queen after snitching on Varys for betraying the queen is just...ugh. And oh yeah, Varys wouldn't even have known about Jon being Targaryen in the first place except Tyrion was conflicted about it so he confided in him. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
Wait no, the writing of the episode is shit. Mixed that up.. Also feel like Westeros would be a much better place if Jon would just fuck his aunt. Now that's a sentence you dont say that often lol Although it was finally an episode with SOME good scenes. Tyrion and Jaime together, all the shots of Kings Landing "making ready for the attack". And really? the scropions have all been destroyed? I'm sure where they magically found the 1000 guarding the walls they can at least find a couple more. Oh look, the person who has been COMPELTLY MAD FOR THE LAST EPISODES suddenly goes mad and burns everyone. Who would have thought So they worked down their list of "top 10 fan theories we have to do" very nicely and did everything no matter how fucking stupid in the plot it is. Honestly at this point all i want is for Arya to kill Dany in the opening sequence of the last episode and then 50 minutes of credits so we can finally be down with this. Zombie mountain is a nice metaphor for this show because it has been pretty much dead and all they do is parade its corpse arround right now | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Dragon's OP. One episode dragon fire is just flame, and the next it has the force of an avalanche behind it. Full mad queen though. Cleganebowl was acceptable. Night King really needed to step up his game though, his zombies were weak sauce compared to Qyburn. Episode was kinda all over the place IMO. Parts were nice, parts weren't, and I honestly don't know what to think. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
Oh well whatever, I just wanna see Tyrion follow in his brother's footsteps and become the queenslayer in the last ep. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
Now the question is who will kill her. I have no doubt that Arya is already on her way and Jon is thinking about it, as well as Tyrion. It will be a race. | ||
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
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Durnuu
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- Once again absolutely retarded strategy (like episode 3), this time from Cersei (or whomever is in charge, probably not her I suppose) - why is the golden company outside the walls? - Why are there Dothrakis after episode 3? Obviously not unexpected to see them considering Daenerys got an army out of nowhere after said episode, but come on. - Arya's insane plot armor. - And the "rules" (if you can call them that) of the show being inconsistent : The Mountain casually blowing Qyburn's head then failing to choke the Hound (or even breaking his skull earlier considering how much throwing around there was) / Drogon blowing all the scorpions and the entire city, but couldn't do shit against Euron's dozen of ships in episode 4. Could also mention the scorpion bolts looking mighty slow and useless compared to episode 4. Like, I'm not surprised the Mountain has inhuman strength or Drogon being able to blow things up like that, but it's not consistent. - Not sure what to think of Tyrion's/Jaime's actions in this episode tbh Overall I still enjoyed the episode, definitely better than everything else in season 8 so far | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
I can talk in details about all of these, but I ll go with one of them for an example, why didnt they not left both dragons to attack the castle and one of them dying from the balistas and the other one finishing the job. This would have achieved 3 things, 1st balistas would not look stupidly op and then turning into nothing, 2nd the dragons will not look stupidly vulnerable then turn into indestructible monster who won the fight alone while balistas became irrelevant for no fucking reason, 3rd the dany looking how her child is dying can build her momentum rage to go rampart on king's landing. I am not saying that my version is amazing, but what they did was lower than fucking 3 years old children cartoon story | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
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VHbb
689 Posts
Reading this thread is hopeless, bashing on GoT has become the new trend -- it looks like everyone tries to just find the harshest words to bring it down, at this point it does not make too much sense, it's more of a trend than an actual commentary  | ||
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FFGenerations
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jamie x cersei and hound x arya were only things i cared about for a long time no idea why gandolf's horse was there at the end, that was weird bookmarked your book suggestions thanks btw, there's been a small 'grimdark' anime movement lately, check out: Grimgar Made in Abyss Goblin Slayer i liked all 3. very cool i did not like this episode just jamie and cersei escaping was awesome, rest was shit btw i relate strongly to jamie x cersei coz i too am full of love and madness and hate | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
They set up an actual intelligent storyline of intrigue with Tyrion vs Varys last episode. Only to kill it in the first 15 minutes, so its only point was to give the audience something to guess about between episode 4 and 5, storywise there is no real purpose. Rapid fire super accurate ballistics's become neither, because the plot demands it. It could have been 'dragon's have given you everything, now you have to do it on your own'' but nope, dragon superweapon is still a-ok. Jaime gets stabbed in his side twice. But somehow doesn't bleed to death because the plot demands it. Arya forgets how to be a super ninja assassin because the plot demands it. Didn't they have enough extra's to not use the same poor women 4+ times? I don't have a problem with Dany going a bit mad queen. I have a problem with doing it after the city surrenders and simply torching the entire place to the ground rather then just destroying the keep and leaving the city intact. Cleganebowl was decent if utter fan service. Glad the see the golden company earned their pay by standing outside a city wall during a siege... Dothraki charge into the city and then vanish because the 2 armies needed to have a stand-off. Are we sure they arn't ghosts, because they sure act like it. So now we have 1 episode to have everyone bitch at the mad queen, arya killing Dany and Jon leave all sad back to the Wall to guard the realms of men leaving the 7 kingdoms to fend for themselves without an iron throne to bind them together. I'm sure the world will be a better place for all of 5 minutes before the game of thrones continues. I do have to wonder what the point of the suspected Dorne return is going to be. ps. I love how Dany complains that the people don't love her when the only shes done in Westeros is burn people. How about saving the people without burning them Dany? Maybe they will love you then. pps. Loved that the destroyed Jaime's entire arc since meeting Brienne. Nope, not going to kill Cersei, he just wanted to keep fucking here after all /facepalm. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On May 13 2019 19:43 Warri wrote: Im also fine with Dany going mad storywise, it has been foreshadowed and talked about long ago, but i dont like how it went down in the end. The big problem i see is that after all this (before the bell) the audience still roots for her and Cersei is still the worst person imaginable, no nuances. Until that point the worst thing Dany did was burn the Tarlys, but they were enemies so you dont think too much of it. That makes her snapping to the bells kind of random and hard to accept what just happened. Now you cant root for the character you loved anymore. I don't think that Dany snapped, because of the bells and I don't know why so many people think that. What I saw was that she was already mad before the battle. She lost everything and in her eyes everyone betrayed her. And that turned her insane. During the bells I saw her being conflicted. On one hand she really wants to light the whole place up, on the other she realizes how wrong is that, because her enemy surrendered. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On May 13 2019 13:14 Stratos_speAr wrote: It would be even more nonsensical because her entire character development since season 1 would be completely against torching a city of nearly a million people. She hasn't developed into that person at all. Maybe that's just it. Maybe the message here is that when push comes to shove, even the most ideologically driven become hypocrites and will do anything for power. Power corrupts, no "madness" required. That's a GRRM move though, and I don't think the show writers are clever enough for this. To be real, though, the whole "break the chains" this was always bs to begin with. It's a vague and meaningless phrase. The only non-meaningless interpretation is that she was going there to end feudalism and absolutism, and that was never on the table. She was going to establish herself as queen. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
They rushed so many things because there is simply no time in a 6 episode season. But they have time for "100 ways to murder innocent people: a 60 minute montage" ? Yeah i get why they are trying to show how evil and bad it all is. But i feel like a lot less civillian murdering and a little more plot could have done a huge thing here. Would have accomplished the same thing but give the show an extra 30 minutes to get some background/logic/charackter motivation or whatever on screen | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
Dany going Bucky Barnes on us won’t get any further explanation other than for us to speculate that it’s her heritage/fate: “God’s flip a coin etc etc, alone targs are dangerous” blah blah blah. | ||
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