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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 14 2019 00:10 Sbrubbles wrote: How's about a little poll: Poll: Who will kill Dany in the last episode? Jon (12) Arya (10) Tyrion (6) Other (1) Dany lives (1) 30 total votes Your vote: Who will kill Dany in the last episode? (Vote): Arya I'd put my money on Tyrion, but that's only if she doesn't execute him in the first 5 minutes for releasing Jaime. One of Tyrion/Jon will burn for sure. Gotta put Cersei for the long shot. With these writers no body = not dead. Her odds of surviving that rockfall are greater than Jaime/Brienne/Jon getting out of some of the wight piles in the Battle of Winterfell, imo. | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On May 14 2019 00:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The real losers of this episode are the Iron Bank investment vehicle consultants. The spreadsheets said backing Cersei was the best option. But they failed to research that a dragon could delete their army in a second. Thus began the Dragon Insurance Mutual of Braavos. | ||
fishjie
United States1519 Posts
so yes, euron's ships with cloaking tech, homing missiles, and teleportations, stop working, and dany fries all of them to death. dany, whose been hinted at being a bad guy, suddenly goes full bad guy. it was obvious they were going to do it, its just that there was no way it could've been believable in one episode. they killed varys, but not surprising how dirty they did littlefinger, and i'm pretty sure tyrion is going to be executed after having been so useless all these seasons. i am goign to keep watching because i am curious: will arya kill dany BEFORE dany kills jon snow? or after will tyrion get to do anything useful before he just gets killed off? | ||
crms
United States11933 Posts
I can't believe Jamie said 'ive never much cared for innocents' in his farewell to Tyrion. The guy broke oath and stabbed a fucking KING to death to prevent the loss of innocent life, a move that set his entire story arch into action lol. What a clown show. | ||
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United States7542 Posts
On May 14 2019 00:49 fishjie wrote: the episode was as good as it could have been, given the writing quality and there only being one episode left now. it was obvious that in this episode cersei would lose, after they dramatically "evened" out the odds last episodes with blink stalkers sniping a dragon, and that dany would go mad and slaughter a bunch of innocents so yes, euron's ships with cloaking tech, homing missiles, and teleportations, stop working, and dany fries all of them to death. dany, whose been hinted at being a bad guy, suddenly goes full bad guy. it was obvious they were going to do it, its just that there was no way it could've been believable in one episode. they killed varys, but not surprising how dirty they did littlefinger, and i'm pretty sure tyrion is going to be executed after having been so useless all these seasons. i am goign to keep watching because i am curious: will arya kill dany BEFORE dany kills jon snow? or after will tyrion get to do anything useful before he just gets killed off? It's amazing how much the execution of Littlefinger, Varys, and (soon) Tyrion is just the show blatantly saying they don't know or care to do intrigue & dialogue anymore. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
I liked Sandor quite a bit but the entire CleganeBowl and his end didn't really live up to the hype and also felt pointless. Most of the characters do uncharacteristic things in this episode. Thankfully next week they'll wrap it all up and I'll be able to forget all about this show. | ||
Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On May 13 2019 22:05 Stratos_speAr wrote: The problem with this "madness" is that there was no setting for it prior to this. People try to quote prior seasons, but at no point has Dany displayed this "madness". Her father was referred to as mad because he was extremely paranoid and probably mentally ill due to several horrible events in his life in rapid succession. We're talking psychiatric illness mad, not "cold, callous, and brutal" mad. Dany has never once displayed any of this. Everything that Arienne and others refer to is just her being brash, immature, willful, or otherwise just kind of angry. The whole idea about it being in "her blood" and "her fate" to go mad is pretty lazy at best. The show has just simplified it to basically running in her family, which is half-assed writing that doesn't address the fact that the source material shows the Mad King going mad because of a whole slew of events, including being trapped in a dungeon for 6 months by one of his subjects. So all in all, in about 1 full episode's worth of time she suddenly goes "mad". It's rushed and poorly executed. Also, as others have mentioned, every other character is just stupid or a caricature of their original selves. Both Tyrion and Varys consistently act like idiots when they've been the smartest people in the show for years and years, Jaime returning to King's Landing is patently ridiculous, and Grey Worm being OK will killing innocents is completely out of character. The "Breaker of Chains" title refers to her ending slavery, which she was very explicitly against since the beginning of the series. Well they are kind of in a hurry , so I guess you are right. She was already a tyrant. The way from "I will burn everyone, who doesn't bend the knee" to "I will burn everyone." is not that long. A couple of betrayals here and there, the death of people(and dragons) close to her and I can totally see her snapping. Remember that her original plan was to burn everything. Well, she returned to that plan after everyone betrayed her or died. Maybe it's actual madness, maybe it's just desperation and sorrow. | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 14 2019 00:56 crms wrote: The more I think about the episode the more disappointed and sad I get. I can't believe Jamie said 'ive never much cared for innocents' in his farewell to Tyrion. The guy broke oath and stabbed a fucking KING to death to prevent the loss of innocent life, a move that set his entire story arch into action lol. What a clown show. Jaime's story turned from an arc into a circle in the span of 1.5 episodes. Once a dick, always a dick I guess. Maybe Cersei is just that much better at sex than Brienne. On May 14 2019 01:05 Pr0wler wrote: Well they are kind of in a hurry , so I guess you are right. She was already a tyrant. The way from "I will burn everyone, who doesn't bend the knee" to "I will burn everyone." is not that long. A couple of betrayals here and there, the death of people(and dragons) close to her and I can totally see her snapping. Remember that her original plan was to burn everything. Well, she returned to that plan after everyone betrayed her or died. Maybe it's actual madness, maybe it's just desperation and sorrow. I never got the sense her original plan was literally "burn down all of King's Landing." Burn the Red Keep, maybe, "kill indiscriminately until they surrender," maybe, but not "kill all innocent people even after they surrender." That's what was really jarring about her break for me, she didn't even fly up and torch Cersei herself (instead rocks fell and we never saw a body). | ||
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United States7542 Posts
She also has one of the rare moments of character development in the entire season, as she's convinced to abandon her revenge plot. Dieing due to dragon fire or trampling would be the exact opposite of early seasons of the show. I don't really know why everyone is convinced the early seasons of the show just tossed out characters randomly. That literally never happens until you get to Selmy/Dorne where the show starts trying to trim the cast for the sake of time. | ||
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TheEmulator
28090 Posts
On May 14 2019 00:56 crms wrote: The more I think about the episode the more disappointed and sad I get. I can't believe Jamie said 'ive never much cared for innocents' in his farewell to Tyrion. The guy broke oath and stabbed a fucking KING to death to prevent the loss of innocent life, a move that set his entire story arch into action lol. What a clown show. Remember when Bran let him live because he said he would be useful later LOL. He didn’t really do anything in the NK siege except kill some wights (and considering he’s a cripple his kill count was probably on the low end). I guess he killed Euron, but he had already lost his fleet so he was useless. Bran literally let him live just so he could betray them one more time... | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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semantics
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
On May 14 2019 01:18 Plansix wrote: Sound terrible but probably better then what the actual ending will be.Ok, so what if Dany end up on the throne, Jon goes back to the North and Arya kills her a decade or more later? We get a nice fast forward 10-15 years, catch up a little bit and then face-mask murder? | ||
M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 14 2019 01:21 Gorsameth wrote: Sound terrible but probably better then what the actual ending will be. To make it not feel rush and terrible, I need to rewind back to hardhome and remove the night king as a concept. Or to make his master plan to bring down the wall and let the long night slowly seep across the 7 Kingdoms. Right now we are just speed running the plot because the show runners and actors want to move on. | ||
karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 14 2019 01:08 Logo wrote: Dieing due to dragon fire or trampling would be the exact opposite of early seasons of the show. I don't really know why everyone is convinced the early seasons of the show just tossed out characters randomly. That literally never happens until you get to Selmy/Dorne where the show starts trying to trim the cast for the sake of time. It's not that characters were killed off randomly in earlier seasons, it's more that if they didn't routinely get put in situations where death was the only realistic outcome, and then come away unscathed. | ||
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United States7542 Posts
On May 14 2019 01:32 M2 wrote: Few weeks ago, there was a plot leakage for the last 3 episodes, I skimmed scanned through it and if I am not mistaken most of it came true for episodes 4&5 so whoever is interested can find it on google and see how dany and the iron throne will end (assuming it is true). It will be quite an awkward ending if it goes that way, but for me its not the story that is the problem, but the execution, the inconsistency and the ill justification of the actions and the story is what kills it for me. Yeah most of the main story beats have been fine, even this season, it's just everything below that turns to ash when you look at it with anything fresher than a distant memory of the previous episodes. Sometimes I feel like long running TV shows get a pass for sloppiness just by having people kind of forget the details of the previous seasons. On May 14 2019 01:35 karazax wrote: It's not that characters were killed off randomly in earlier seasons, it's more that if they didn't routinely get put in situations where death was the only realistic outcome, and then come away unscathed. Fair enough, that's an accurate description of Arya this episode for sure. | ||
Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
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