[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 1674

On August 21 2017 23:36 OtherWorld wrote:

Considering the uselessness of the Missandei/Grey Worm scene of a few weeks ago, I don't think they'll resist to give a us a long and useless Jon/Dany scene, though

On August 22 2017 01:17 Plansix wrote:
The plan they had seemed reasonable giving the time constraints that the characters are under. Bran told them that the army is marching that part of the wall. Considering they have seen the Nightking just raise his arms and raise up hundreds of undead, I bet they didn’t want to risk him getting to the wall itself. Because that is when the snowball army begins. So a desperate bad plan is sort of all they had.

On August 22 2017 01:22 KwarK wrote:
I'm fine with having to prove to Dany that the threat is real, it's the proving to Cersei bit that bugs the hell out of me. You don't need to prove shit to Cersei for a few reasons.
1) Cersei has fuck all to offer you. She controls literally just King's Landing. Exactly 0 of the 7 kingdoms.
2) Cersei don't give a fuck about the north, the south, or anyone but herself.
3) Cersei is always going to turn on you.
4) Cersei isn't going to allow of her soldiers to die fighting the dead when she can have your soldiers die instead because she's always going to be thinking of her inevitable fight with you.
5) Cersei is absolutely going to murder any of your dragons she can given any opportunity. You literally can't let her army or people be near any of your shit.
6) To Cersei the army of the dead is probably less scary than the army of the Dothraki + Unsullied + 3 dragons. To her the dead aren't the ultimate enemy to be dealt with first before she fights Dany, Dany is the ultimate enemy.
7) Even if the army of the dead is more scary, the army of Dany is already here.
8) There's still a giant fucking wall, a wildling army, a north filled with her enemies, a riverlands filled with her enemies, and a vale filled with her enemies, between the army of the dead and her. Cersei don't give a fuck about them.
9) You can literally just go kill her whenever and then take her army if you want it. Dragons give an innate deep deployment perk that allows armies to be bypassed.
10) There is no possibility that Dany, through Tyrion, doesn't know literally all of the above.

If they'd had Dany be all unbelieving and Jon went to get a wight for her I'd be fine with that. But Dany's a single mom and Jon was good with her kids so now she's wet for him and his curly hair. So who is the wight for?

On August 22 2017 01:54 Odoakar wrote:
But that's nonsense. If they want to avoid it, they could storm KL. Even if they don't want to do that, there are countless of better plans than 'lets try to capture a wight and bring it to cersei even though we know she won't give a shit about that'.

On August 22 2017 01:57 Plansix wrote:

They literally explained this in an episode. They don't want to storm kings landing because mass murder and the cycle of violence(aka, the wheel). They want to deal with the nightking's army and can't while at war with Cersei. They know they can win, so they want her to sue for peace and reach an armistice where they all fight the nightking's army. They want the wight as proof the army exist.

On August 22 2017 02:02 KwarK wrote:

The explanation was dumb as hell. They cannot fight alongside Cersei. They don't need to kill everyone in King's Landing. They could totally fight the Night King while at war with Cersei because Cersei is a bitch who can't do shit to anyone. They know that Cersei is never going to sue for peace, she'll never submit to another queen, she's always going to die fighting Dany.

On August 21 2017 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
So littlefinger managed to put sisters against each other fairly quickly (not like Sansa helps, she obviously wants to be queen of the north). Now he needs to find a way to convince Sansa that Arya needs to be dealt with. Hopefully Arya is smart enough to steal his face pretty soon.