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On June 17 2015 06:00 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 04:22 BluzMan wrote:
Can't hurt to add another stone to the sand snake fiasco.
We know that Myrcella and Tristane are in love and dornishmen don't show much restraint in those matters. So, delivering poison by a kiss when both of those are about to embark on a journey together is the nicest idea ever. Goes well in line with poisoning weapons when about to steal Myrcella from the gardens. The whole damn plan is absolutely retarded to begin with. What they should have done is go to KL, accidentally make Tommen deaded and then BAM! Trystane of the House Martell, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm Myrcella is the only road to Martell influence in the capitol and they just murdered her. Brilliant. Taking a 50/50 on also killing the only (as far as we know) Martell heir is just icing on top.
Why would be Tristane King? How would they kill Tommen ? Sand snakes vs Kings Guard + Lannister guards ? LOL.
The assasination was planned by Ellaria and 3 girls alone. Dorne king has nothing to do with it (thats why he is sending tMycella in the first place). They(ellaria & 3girls) don't give a fuck even if Tristane die, they just want to provoke Lannisters to declare war to avenge Oberyn.
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This stuff is getting suspicious, why are they so keen on confirming all the deaths ... maybe there is more to it.
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On June 17 2015 19:45 shin_toss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 06:00 Vorenius wrote:On June 17 2015 04:22 BluzMan wrote:
Can't hurt to add another stone to the sand snake fiasco.
We know that Myrcella and Tristane are in love and dornishmen don't show much restraint in those matters. So, delivering poison by a kiss when both of those are about to embark on a journey together is the nicest idea ever. Goes well in line with poisoning weapons when about to steal Myrcella from the gardens. The whole damn plan is absolutely retarded to begin with. What they should have done is go to KL, accidentally make Tommen deaded and then BAM! Trystane of the House Martell, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm Myrcella is the only road to Martell influence in the capitol and they just murdered her. Brilliant. Taking a 50/50 on also killing the only (as far as we know) Martell heir is just icing on top. Why would be Tristane King? How would they kill Tommen ? Sand snakes vs Kings Guard + Lannister guards ? LOL. The assasination was planned by Ellaria and 3 girls alone. Dorne king has nothing to do with it (thats why he is sending tMycella in the first place). They(ellaria & 3girls) don't give a fuck even if Tristane die, they just want to provoke Lannisters to declare war to avenge Oberyn.
If Tommen dies without any sons, brothers or Baratheon uncles, I think the crown would go to his sister Myrcella. As the queen's husband, Tristane would be king in name and have some power himself.
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Quote from the link: "Did you actually film any kind of violence toward Stannis, her sword going into him?
Not at all. It wasn’t even filmed for safety. Dave and Dan were very clear with how they wanted the scene dealt with and handled, and I was there to provide that for them."
This does not sound like Stannis IS dead, but more like that D&D made them film the scene so that no one knows if he is alive or not, not even the crew. This has been the case with some other previous events so that the people involved can act it out better when they really don't know the outcome.
If Mannis is alive I hope that he teams up with Brienne and Pod for future endeavours and grammar-humour.
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Generally if a sister becomes queen, her husband is prince consort, not king
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On June 17 2015 21:20 KOFgokuon wrote:
Generally if a sister becomes queen, her husband is prince consort, not king
Actually, no queen has ever inherited the Iron Throne apparently. In cases of no direct male heir it seems to go to either distant male heirs or war breaks out. Regardless, If Tommen were to die (sitting the Iron Throne seems to be pretty dangerous these days) having Myrcella engaged to Tristane and IN DORNE, would grant a lot of power.
As far as Doran being in on it, I'm in doubts. There are some weird looks between him and Ellaria at the docks, that might mean something. Or might mean nothing. I don't think he's stupid though. He's been portrayed as more of a thinker than fighter in contrast to his brother, so I don't think Ellarias actions should come as a surprise. Unless he is in fact stupid in which case I guess it makes sense. It makes for a dumb plot, but it makes sense. If that's true why cut the Greyjoys, who were at least interesting, for Doran? :s
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On June 17 2015 21:56 Vorenius wrote:
He's been portrayed as more of a thinker than fighter in contrast to his brother
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Yeah the wheelchair gave me the hint too
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I decided that instead of a 2nd watch I am going to read "That Which Shan't Be Named". I wonder if I will be back with all new insights and super informed about everything. It's been fun again guys, see you when the first announcements for the next season are made!
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On June 18 2015 01:42 Nesserev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 01:20 B.I.G. wrote:
I decided that instead of a 2nd watch I am going to read "That Which Shan't Be Named". I wonder if I will be back with all new insights and super informed about everything. It's been fun again guys, see you when the first announcements for the next season are made! Heretic... I just rewatched the whole season again; and now I'm starting to think... why didn't they just cut Dorne? Did anything change? Marcella is dead... that's it? Is it fair to say that Dorne didn't progress the overall story at all?
I think Dorne might be much better in the next season.
They are supposed to be neutral unless attacked (I think) so i'm pretty sure we're going to find out why Aegon the conqueror left the alone after a while.
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On June 18 2015 01:42 Nesserev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 01:20 B.I.G. wrote:
I decided that instead of a 2nd watch I am going to read "That Which Shan't Be Named". I wonder if I will be back with all new insights and super informed about everything. It's been fun again guys, see you when the first announcements for the next season are made! Heretic... I just rewatched the whole season again; and now I'm starting to think... why didn't they just cut Dorne? Did anything change? Marcella is dead... that's it? Is it fair to say that Dorne didn't progress the overall story at all?
I thought the entire tv series was based around pointless deaths of stupid people just when you think that there will be story progression? :p
At least Sam and Tyrion/Varys are still okay.
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So what happens to the wildlings now? Can we have a tormund uprising with his giant friend and recapture the wall. they still only have like 50 dudes right?
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"TIME TO PULL THE BOYS" - Artosis R. Bolton
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On June 18 2015 04:53 Nesserev wrote:Why did Jon Snow stand in line for 6 hours at the Apple Store? + Show Spoiler +
This had me laughing waaaay longer than it should have :DD
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On June 17 2015 17:25 Scorch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 06:00 Vorenius wrote:On June 17 2015 04:22 BluzMan wrote:
Can't hurt to add another stone to the sand snake fiasco.
We know that Myrcella and Tristane are in love and dornishmen don't show much restraint in those matters. So, delivering poison by a kiss when both of those are about to embark on a journey together is the nicest idea ever. Goes well in line with poisoning weapons when about to steal Myrcella from the gardens. The whole damn plan is absolutely retarded to begin with. What they should have done is go to KL, accidentally make Tommen deaded and then BAM! Trystane of the House Martell, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm Myrcella is the only road to Martell influence in the capitol and they just murdered her. Brilliant. Taking a 50/50 on also killing the only (as far as we know) Martell heir is just icing on top. The assassination was obviously not sanctioned by Doran Martell, a reasonable and peaceful man. It was purely Ellaria's doing. She's a very one dimensional character who doesn't think. She's blind with rage and the only thing on her mind is killing Lannisters. We have seen before that Doran cannot keep her under control, but this will have been her last transgression.
Not quite true, it is not simply about wanting to kill Lannisters. She wants to start a war and killing Myrcella is the perfect way to do it.
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On June 18 2015 06:23 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 17:25 Scorch wrote:On June 17 2015 06:00 Vorenius wrote:On June 17 2015 04:22 BluzMan wrote:
Can't hurt to add another stone to the sand snake fiasco.
We know that Myrcella and Tristane are in love and dornishmen don't show much restraint in those matters. So, delivering poison by a kiss when both of those are about to embark on a journey together is the nicest idea ever. Goes well in line with poisoning weapons when about to steal Myrcella from the gardens. The whole damn plan is absolutely retarded to begin with. What they should have done is go to KL, accidentally make Tommen deaded and then BAM! Trystane of the House Martell, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm Myrcella is the only road to Martell influence in the capitol and they just murdered her. Brilliant. Taking a 50/50 on also killing the only (as far as we know) Martell heir is just icing on top. The assassination was obviously not sanctioned by Doran Martell, a reasonable and peaceful man. It was purely Ellaria's doing. She's a very one dimensional character who doesn't think. She's blind with rage and the only thing on her mind is killing Lannisters. We have seen before that Doran cannot keep her under control, but this will have been her last transgression. Not quite true, it is not simply about wanting to kill Lannisters. She wants to start a war and killing Myrcella is the perfect way to do it.
It's an evil way to do it.
We don't hurt little girls in Dorne
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On June 18 2015 06:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:23 Redox wrote:On June 17 2015 17:25 Scorch wrote:On June 17 2015 06:00 Vorenius wrote:On June 17 2015 04:22 BluzMan wrote:
Can't hurt to add another stone to the sand snake fiasco.
We know that Myrcella and Tristane are in love and dornishmen don't show much restraint in those matters. So, delivering poison by a kiss when both of those are about to embark on a journey together is the nicest idea ever. Goes well in line with poisoning weapons when about to steal Myrcella from the gardens. The whole damn plan is absolutely retarded to begin with. What they should have done is go to KL, accidentally make Tommen deaded and then BAM! Trystane of the House Martell, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm Myrcella is the only road to Martell influence in the capitol and they just murdered her. Brilliant. Taking a 50/50 on also killing the only (as far as we know) Martell heir is just icing on top. The assassination was obviously not sanctioned by Doran Martell, a reasonable and peaceful man. It was purely Ellaria's doing. She's a very one dimensional character who doesn't think. She's blind with rage and the only thing on her mind is killing Lannisters. We have seen before that Doran cannot keep her under control, but this will have been her last transgression. Not quite true, it is not simply about wanting to kill Lannisters. She wants to start a war and killing Myrcella is the perfect way to do it. It's an evil way to do it. We don't hurt little girls in Dorne
That's why we hurt them right off the coast of Dorne. 
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On June 17 2015 21:20 Dominator131 wrote:Quote from the link: "Did you actually film any kind of violence toward Stannis, her sword going into him? Not at all. It wasn’t even filmed for safety. Dave and Dan were very clear with how they wanted the scene dealt with and handled, and I was there to provide that for them." This does not sound like Stannis IS dead, but more like that D&D made them film the scene so that no one knows if he is alive or not, not even the crew. This has been the case with some other previous events so that the people involved can act it out better when they really don't know the outcome. If Mannis is alive I hope that he teams up with Brienne and Pod for future endeavours and grammar-humour.
Stannis being alive doesnt serve any purpose in the story now, he has nothing left, I hope he is dead, anyway he realized about the big mistake that he made when he burned his daughter alive, he is just not the same person anymore.
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