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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
June 18 2015 12:24 GMT
#28561
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
June 18 2015 12:26 GMT
#28562
On June 18 2015 20:42 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 18:28 shin_toss wrote:
Random question, was staring on this map for a while ..

http://imgehd.com/game-of-thrones-map-hbo-background-1-hd-wallpaper.html

Why did Robb's army needed to pass The Twins? But the main road from Winterfell doesn't even pass to the Twins. iirc That Tully guy(Robb's bannerman) only marry one of the Freys bec they wanted to pass right?

Tywin was camping the Kingsroad with the main Lannister army. Jamie was sieging Riverrun with a smaller host. Roose Bolton made a feint at Tywin while Rob crossed the the Green Fork at the Twins and made for Riverrun, catching Jamie off guard.
Lannister didn't have proper scouting so the Stark cheese worked.

Come on jaime, that's what the minimap is for !
I like starcraft
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 18 2015 12:33 GMT
#28563
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?

Imo they made it pretty clear that burning little girls alive does nothing other than making you a disgusting motherfucker. That's kind of the only redeeming thing about the last episode, I sure wouldn't want to watch a show where you can do something like that and get away with it.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2015 12:54 GMT
#28564
On June 18 2015 21:33 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?

Imo they made it pretty clear that burning little girls alive does nothing other than making you a disgusting motherfucker. That's kind of the only redeeming thing about the last episode, I sure wouldn't want to watch a show where you can do something like that and get away with it.

Well it changed the weather and we don't know that stannis is actually dead. Plus common girls are raped / killed constantly in this show look at how easily meryn trant got ahold of a bunch of girls and everyone was okay with it because its just a normal thing.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
June 18 2015 13:44 GMT
#28565
shireen wasn't a common girl, and trant wasn't raping his own daughters. the analogy isn't quite apt enough.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
June 18 2015 15:24 GMT
#28566
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?

Only death can pay for life!
"NO" -Has
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 18 2015 16:45 GMT
#28567
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?


The magic stopped the cold.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 16:50:30
June 18 2015 16:46 GMT
#28568
On June 15 2015 13:11 SwARmZzz wrote:
Are you people serious when you blame HBO for "killing" Jon Snow?
You people do realize it it how GRRM wrote it in A Dance with Dragons?
Sheesh...

And was that really not Lena Headey?? Bummer....


MOD EDIT: Removed minor book spoiler.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 18 2015 17:28 GMT
#28569
On June 18 2015 21:54 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 21:33 BluzMan wrote:
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?

Imo they made it pretty clear that burning little girls alive does nothing other than making you a disgusting motherfucker. That's kind of the only redeeming thing about the last episode, I sure wouldn't want to watch a show where you can do something like that and get away with it.

Well it changed the weather and we don't know that stannis is actually dead. Plus common girls are raped / killed constantly in this show look at how easily meryn trant got ahold of a bunch of girls and everyone was okay with it because its just a normal thing.

Or the weather just changed. Like it does, you know. Every day, you know.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 18 2015 17:53 GMT
#28570
On June 19 2015 02:28 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 21:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2015 21:33 BluzMan wrote:
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?

Imo they made it pretty clear that burning little girls alive does nothing other than making you a disgusting motherfucker. That's kind of the only redeeming thing about the last episode, I sure wouldn't want to watch a show where you can do something like that and get away with it.

Well it changed the weather and we don't know that stannis is actually dead. Plus common girls are raped / killed constantly in this show look at how easily meryn trant got ahold of a bunch of girls and everyone was okay with it because its just a normal thing.

Or the weather just changed. Like it does, you know. Every day, you know.


supposedly not in westoros, decade long winter and all.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 18 2015 18:23 GMT
#28571
On June 19 2015 02:53 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 02:28 BluzMan wrote:
On June 18 2015 21:54 Drazerk wrote:
On June 18 2015 21:33 BluzMan wrote:
On June 18 2015 21:24 Kenpark wrote:
Do we know if Melisandre performed some kind of "magic" with the help of the sac of Stannis' daughter ? Like clearing the weather or sth, so they can walk on winterfell ?

Imo they made it pretty clear that burning little girls alive does nothing other than making you a disgusting motherfucker. That's kind of the only redeeming thing about the last episode, I sure wouldn't want to watch a show where you can do something like that and get away with it.

Well it changed the weather and we don't know that stannis is actually dead. Plus common girls are raped / killed constantly in this show look at how easily meryn trant got ahold of a bunch of girls and everyone was okay with it because its just a normal thing.

Or the weather just changed. Like it does, you know. Every day, you know.


supposedly not in westoros, decade long winter and all.

It's not all out winter just yet, so naturally the weather is unstable. If anything, the whole point of GoT as a show is that you don't need supernatural explanations to trivial events, even in a fantasy setting.

So far there has been no evidence that human sacrifice to the Lord of Light even has any effect. Thoros of Myr doesn't sacrifice anyone to bring Dondarion back, it just happens, none of the real stuff Melisandre does is fueled by sacrifice as well. Her "distant murder" of the false kings and weather change are indistinguishable from common superstition, the former happen for actual real reasons, the latter is as likely to be a whim of nature.

The reason she is so shocked, imo, is not only mistakenly seeing Stannis as a champion of the Lord of Light, but the realization that her whole way of honing her god is fucked up which is probably why she is misled with Stannis in the first place. She realizes that a common drunk is a better servant to her lord than her.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
June 18 2015 18:28 GMT
#28572
you're ascribing your knowledge of weather to a books whose weather is very explicitly a complete fantasy. you can't actually claim to know the truth of how it behaves. it's the most fantastical thing about the show up there with magic and dragons. you can see it go from a foot of snow to melting. as like most things with respect to God(s), you can't prove or disprove it. there's definitely room for stannis to believe.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
June 18 2015 18:32 GMT
#28573
I think they done the Stannis scene like that because they are not sure if he will survive or not in the books.

If hes dead then no harm done and if hes alive then they can do a scene with Briene hitting the tree or smth.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
June 18 2015 19:37 GMT
#28574
On June 19 2015 03:32 SkelA wrote:
I think they done the Stannis scene like that because they are not sure if he will survive or not in the books.

If hes dead then no harm done and if hes alive then they can do a scene with Briene hitting the tree or smth.

The creators of the show know how the entire story ends. They aren't waiting for the books.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 18 2015 19:54 GMT
#28575
I think it's fair to say that Mel's weather magic works in the same way that the leech magic worked on Joffrey and Robb. Dubious, it could be a coincidence, but maybe too great a coincidence? We're not supposed to find out for sure. Maybe the weather magic was a kind of genie's doublesided wish thing, where the gods give Stannis the weather change he wants, but curse him to lose because he killed his own daughter?

The exact nature of Melisandre's god, and the Great Other, isn't supposed to be known yet, because it has to do with the very endgame of the entire series. We know for sure that Mel is capable of some kind of magic, like the assassins, but it clearly can't be done at will or whenever she pleases; as she always stresses, it's ultimately out of her hands. GoT is quite hesitant to show things like magical spells being performed by humans. Melisandre is the closest they've gotten, and as I've said already, the nature of her abilities is highly ambiguous, even to her.
memes are a dish best served dank
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
June 18 2015 20:03 GMT
#28576
How much more in books that has not been shown in the series? Someone told me thats its pretty much caught up with books
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 18 2015 20:13 GMT
#28577
On June 19 2015 05:03 ThePhan2m wrote:
How much more in books that has not been shown in the series? Someone told me thats its pretty much caught up with books


there were a lot of things left out or simplified, the left out things weren't always important for the plot, but they were good for building your background knowledge of the world.
And all is illuminated.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 18 2015 21:14 GMT
#28578
Book 5 has a Melissandre POV. If you are interested in her mind you guys should read it.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#28579
On June 19 2015 05:03 ThePhan2m wrote:
How much more in books that has not been shown in the series? Someone told me thats its pretty much caught up with books


Side plots and background. Only a minor future event that might not even happen in the show.

Because there is more background on the books, there is more material for speculation, so you should still care a little bit for pseudo-spoils.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 22:11:57
June 18 2015 21:33 GMT
#28580
just what i can remember

ahead in tv: tyrion, jorah, stannis, arya(kind of, mixed order of events)
behind in tv: brann, doran, ironborn
same for both: cercei, daenerys, jon
different: jaime, brienne, sansa.

honestly, i dont remember at all what sansa did in the books after her aunt died.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
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