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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 09 2017 03:46 GMT
#1741
The fights have been pretty good so far. A little to much angel/beerus/etc talking, but was fun to see Goku and Vegeta work together as well.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-09 05:44:28
July 09 2017 05:43 GMT
#1742
The start of the ep was a bit disappointing with all the heehehehee from like literally every u9 character like holy hell theres need to pad run time when you can have awesome fights, but the second half was awesome seeing vegeta and goku completely out move and blast the opponents out the ring was amazing.

Maybe zenoh's power is linked to the universes and this grand priest some how managed to convince him that they need to purge a couple of the lower class ones so once he loses enough universes the angels will have the power to beat him? maybe but its really interesting to see where they take this angel arc stuff.

Also beerus and old kai calling out the over hyped naming of abilities was pretty great too
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2017 06:26 GMT
#1743
Pretty cool episode overall. As mentioned, the angels bit got me wondering. The powers of the omni king were made out to be infinite but makes you wonder now.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
July 09 2017 07:42 GMT
#1744
I have been thinking that Grand Priest was the actual strongest being, but the universe draining theory makes more sense. I think whenever the grand priest makes his move, it's all going to come down to Whis, and which side he chooses.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 09 2017 08:01 GMT
#1745
On July 09 2017 12:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I knew Grand Priest sama was the real threat. Angels want to overthrow Zen-O and be free from his childish reign. They can probably rally the other universes that aren't in the tournament and come up with something crafty.

This was a really good episode. First half was reused animatied fights, but the second was great.


It's all really odd. Would the angels be the good or the bad guys after zen-o wiped an universe out of a whim?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 09 2017 08:06 GMT
#1746
On July 09 2017 16:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I have been thinking that Grand Priest was the actual strongest being, but the universe draining theory makes more sense. I think whenever the grand priest makes his move, it's all going to come down to Whis, and which side he chooses.

Thats a really good point i feel like whis definitely has a better connection with beerus and u7 considering all the food they got.
The u9 angel seemed to smirk when they all got erased tho their whole universe were pretty clear"bad guys" so maybe hes just evil in his own right. (Tho i feel like this is way less likely)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-09 08:31:45
July 09 2017 08:31 GMT
#1747
On July 09 2017 17:06 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2017 16:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I have been thinking that Grand Priest was the actual strongest being, but the universe draining theory makes more sense. I think whenever the grand priest makes his move, it's all going to come down to Whis, and which side he chooses.

Thats a really good point i feel like whis definitely has a better connection with beerus and u7 considering all the food they got.
The u9 angel seemed to smirk when they all got erased tho their whole universe were pretty clear"bad guys" so maybe hes just evil in his own right. (Tho i feel like this is way less likely)

I'm pretty sure his character profile on Toei's site mentions that he was extremely frustrated because his Supreme Kai and GoD were incompetent fools.

So he's just happy to be rid of them.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
July 09 2017 08:55 GMT
#1748
The Angels & Grand Priest are definitely up to something, all those smirks lol!
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
July 09 2017 09:21 GMT
#1749
On July 09 2017 17:55 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
The Angels & Grand Priest are definitely up to something, all those smirks lol!


I think the same thing.

real good episode , I love it when vegeta gets all cocky and calls himself VEGETA SAMA.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-09 10:16:04
July 09 2017 10:15 GMT
#1750
the universes getting erased is a troll so people fight seriously, gokus in on it.

dont overthink dragon ball
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
July 09 2017 10:36 GMT
#1751
On July 09 2017 19:15 TT1 wrote:
the universes getting erased is a troll so people fight seriously, gokus in on it.

dont overthink dragon ball

U9 was confirmed by Whis to be completely bye-bye. I'm gonna believe him over you if you don't mind.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-09 14:17:57
July 09 2017 12:45 GMT
#1752
I still don't think there is some conspiracy going on in the angel community :O
Dragonball isn't the type of series which would foreshadow something like that with little bits here and there, it's not that "smart".
Though i definitely would like something along those lines, would elevate a lazy tournament arc to something possibly greater and more interesting
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
HKTPZ
Profile Joined May 2017
105 Posts
July 09 2017 14:07 GMT
#1753
Surely, Zeno is able to un-undo Universe 9
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 09 2017 14:15 GMT
#1754
Well on the bright side, slaughtering all those U9 assassins became irrelevant as a result of this.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
July 09 2017 15:34 GMT
#1755
On July 09 2017 23:07 HKTPZ wrote:
Surely, Zeno is able to un-undo Universe 9

...god fucking dammnit...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 09 2017 16:52 GMT
#1756
On July 10 2017 00:34 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2017 23:07 HKTPZ wrote:
Surely, Zeno is able to un-undo Universe 9

...god fucking dammnit...


Can he? I would believe erasing a universe takes a lot less power than re creating it exactly like it was before.

Also, on the plan of angels ganging up on the Zeno's, how could they? Zeno's seem to be incredibly OP, and we don't even know about the guards. It looks like they could raise their hands and wipe them out of existence.

Did they create the universes that actually exist?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 09 2017 17:33 GMT
#1757
Obviously not Zeno, but the Grand Priest will return all the Universes to their original state. He's a Priest, after all.

In any case it serves for more tenseness that they get eliminated as the fighters will, in theory, take it more seriously.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 09 2017 17:35 GMT
#1758
On July 09 2017 11:54 Nakajin wrote:
I feel like the tournament would be more enjoyable if they could kill the opponent, Vegeta blasting those two for example would have been better if he just blast them in pieces.

Still not a bad episode quite curious what the angels plan are, seems like they want to destroy every universe, maybe in order to overthrow the omniking?


I think this is a somewhat possible outcome. But there's also the fact that all the angels seem incredibly relaxed about the idea of universes being eliminated. It could be that this has already happened plenty of times. This chaos may actually be regarded as a crucial step towards creating strong universes. Maybe U7 took a lot of erasures to make U7 this strong.

On July 09 2017 17:01 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2017 12:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I knew Grand Priest sama was the real threat. Angels want to overthrow Zen-O and be free from his childish reign. They can probably rally the other universes that aren't in the tournament and come up with something crafty.

This was a really good episode. First half was reused animatied fights, but the second was great.


It's all really odd. Would the angels be the good or the bad guys after zen-o wiped an universe out of a whim?


It seems like the idea of casually erasing universes isn't taboo to anyone at the level of angel or above. Since they are far and away the strongest around, and seem to have utter and complete power over universes, it isn't even really up for discussion. It seems like they've been through a lot of universes.

But I do think that it IS possible that zenoh gets overthrown. But it doesn't really make sense. Look at the methods through which he destroyed universes. But is it possible he's actually incredibly physically weak? What if he would die in 1 punch? He has this fleet of body guards who are VERY defensive, so it is possible that Zenoh is actually very physically vulnerable, while being totally omnipotent otherwise.

On July 09 2017 23:07 HKTPZ wrote:
Surely, Zeno is able to un-undo Universe 9


I think this as well. If Angels can reverse time in some limited amount, I think Zenoh can undo time across a whole universe for an unlimited amount of time. Or at least an hour. Basically I think Zenoh can reverse time without limit and without scope. If he destroys universes in the way he does, he can be assumed to have actually limitless power IMO.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
July 09 2017 18:05 GMT
#1759
On July 10 2017 01:52 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2017 00:34 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 09 2017 23:07 HKTPZ wrote:
Surely, Zeno is able to un-undo Universe 9

...god fucking dammnit...


Can he? I would believe erasing a universe takes a lot less power than re creating it exactly like it was before.

Also, on the plan of angels ganging up on the Zeno's, how could they? Zeno's seem to be incredibly OP, and we don't even know about the guards. It looks like they could raise their hands and wipe them out of existence.

Did they create the universes that actually exist?


I mean I guess he could, depend how the writers feel.

The whole creation thing is pretty vague, I mean the gods were suppose to create the worlds, but they don't seem to ever do shit.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 09 2017 18:50 GMT
#1760
On July 10 2017 03:05 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2017 01:52 GoTuNk! wrote:
On July 10 2017 00:34 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 09 2017 23:07 HKTPZ wrote:
Surely, Zeno is able to un-undo Universe 9

...god fucking dammnit...


Can he? I would believe erasing a universe takes a lot less power than re creating it exactly like it was before.

Also, on the plan of angels ganging up on the Zeno's, how could they? Zeno's seem to be incredibly OP, and we don't even know about the guards. It looks like they could raise their hands and wipe them out of existence.

Did they create the universes that actually exist?


I mean I guess he could, depend how the writers feel.

The whole creation thing is pretty vague, I mean the gods were suppose to create the worlds, but they don't seem to ever do shit.


Goku goes on to be god of creation of a universe? Zenoh likes Goku and it kind of gives Goku a reason to not be the primary good guy. Gohan's time to ascend while Goku fosters talent to make a universe have a higher power?
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