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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 04 2017 03:12 GMT
#1701
On July 04 2017 10:37 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2017 05:44 andrewlt wrote:
I just keep telling myself that Saiyan strength is inversely correlated with their iq while watching the show. It makes the story more logical.

Explain Nappa.

nappa was a genius, he knew he didnt have the power to stop the incoming threats of buu other universe destroying beings thus he followed vegeta pretending to be a dumb lackey but instead hoping that his sayian prince was the one to save them all from frieza. But when he encounter goku he needed to push goku to his limit sensing the overwhelming potentail beneath him also to give vegeta a rival so they would both try to out do each other. So he had to play the final villain of his story and sacrifice himself.

Truly the we do not deserve nappa...
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 04 2017 03:59 GMT
#1702
Nappa dumb? He is the one who made Satan a star and is a big shot producer in hollywood now
Never Knows Best.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 04:00 GMT
#1703
Nappa isn't weak, he just got power creeped by the end. He kicked everyone's ass in the Saiyan arc.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 04 2017 08:08 GMT
#1704
Both Vegeta and Goku were miles above him at that time.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 14:47 GMT
#1705
Saw this, thought it was interesting.



Basically argues that Zamasu is the Mary Sue of anime villains with a generic motivation, stupid plot escalation, and too much anticlimactic stupidity. I can certainly sympathize; this arc really dropped the ball in the last part.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 04 2017 15:09 GMT
#1706
I absolutely agree with the video here. Zamasu had potential, but it was never realized. The arc was mostly about the mystery of goku black, there really wasn't a lot of other motivation to care about it and then the reveal was mediocre.
I don't expect dragonball super to be on the lvl of other things like HxH, but i expect it to be on the level of dbz. Hopefuly the tournament can deliver (and set up an interesting next arc)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 04 2017 15:18 GMT
#1707
On July 04 2017 23:47 LegalLord wrote:
Saw this, thought it was interesting.

https://youtu.be/hQGov2c7lnk

Basically argues that Zamasu is the Mary Sue of anime villains with a generic motivation, stupid plot escalation, and too much anticlimactic stupidity. I can certainly sympathize; this arc really dropped the ball in the last part.

I think people understatement just how had zamasu and his arc really were. A tragedy.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 15:21 GMT
#1708
The ending certainly left me feeling empty. Like, what the fuck was all this hype and buildup for when you're just going to end it in the least satisfying way possible?

It really started to fuck up when Black Goku did the scythe bs. I could forgive many missed opportunity because DB was never the epitome of deep storytelling; it was more like a semi-mindless but still fun show to watch when I need to waste many hours. But that ending? Ugh. Words cannot describe.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 04 2017 15:29 GMT
#1709
You are saying DB was never deep, well yeah ofc not. But the narrative still worked more or less. With super i don't have the feeling that it works well at all. Like we are 100 episodes in and at the end of the day we didn't have a really enjoyable arc yet, with a villain we care for (i am not even asking for a villain with an understandable motivation) and the needed seriousness. I think that's my biggest problem with super actually, it lacks the darker tone a lot. It feels more like dragonball even though the scope got even bigger than in dbz. I think that's a problem
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 15:32 GMT
#1710
I think what we have is "George Lucas syndrome" here with DBS and even with Buu arc DBZ. These creative types with great ideas have many, many stupid ideas and there needs to be some asshole in the editing staff keeping them in line - or else the end product is going to look like Zamasu arc ending or the SW prequels.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
July 04 2017 18:59 GMT
#1711
On July 04 2017 17:08 TMG26 wrote:
Both Vegeta and Goku were miles above him at that time.

Just had to rewatch this fight:



Nappa gets beat up so bad lol.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 19:30 GMT
#1712
The dub for that arc was really bad, lol.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 04 2017 21:35 GMT
#1713
I don't recall a scythe in the manga
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 22:12 GMT
#1714
There wasn't one.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
July 04 2017 22:17 GMT
#1715
On July 05 2017 04:30 LegalLord wrote:
The dub for that arc was really bad, lol.


FTFY
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 04 2017 22:44 GMT
#1716
On July 05 2017 07:17 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2017 04:30 LegalLord wrote:
The dub for that arc was really bad, lol.


FTFY

It always blows my mind when I see someone talking about how they wait for the dub.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 22:45 GMT
#1717
To be fair, since Kai the dub has gotten a lot better.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 04 2017 23:01 GMT
#1718
On July 05 2017 07:45 LegalLord wrote:
To be fair, since Kai the dub has gotten a lot better.

I guess I've never had a reason to find out. Do you watch dub sometimes or something? I guess that allows you to have it in the background, assuming you don't know Japanese...
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 04 2017 23:34 GMT
#1719
I always watch both. But I'm waiting until the dub finishes for Super.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 03:34:34
July 05 2017 03:33 GMT
#1720
On July 05 2017 07:45 LegalLord wrote:
To be fair, since Kai the dub has gotten a lot better.


I still don't see the problem with the original funimation dub. Sounds good to me and I like parts of it better than Kai for sure (and vice versa). But I guess I am the weird one as a lot of people say it sounds like shit. To me something has to sound really really bad for me to think that way, guess I am lucky that way.
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