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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

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Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
February 27 2017 12:42 GMT
#641
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 27 2017 18:36 GMT
#642
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...


I see Zeno as an exaggerated version of Buu. Remember Buu dancing around towards his opponent, then landing a subtle punch, launching them miles into the air? Followed by a brief grin? Seems similar here. Extremely care free and somewhat troll'ish
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2017 19:40 GMT
#643
Hm nah Zeno seems like a little child. I dislike that quite a bit actually, sometimes you need to be serious with character design :/
I would have prefered it if Zeno would be more like Dr Manhattan / One of the Endless (Sandman)
It is ok to have comic relief characters but thw hole tone in super is so childish a lot of the time. I just wanna have a serious arc well done :/ That's what made DBZ great imo.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 22:52:58
February 27 2017 19:45 GMT
#644
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...

At the same time, because he seems so childish and somewhat naive, I think if what the Grand Priest said wasn't 100% true Zeno would just say so, you know.

Although tbh the whole "Zeno planned it all along" thing to me seems like they just needed an out after they realized "Wait a second, prompting the annihilation of that many Universes makes our hero look really bad".
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
February 28 2017 01:47 GMT
#645
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...


My co-worker said the same time. "What if the grand priest is actually the real god and Zeno acts as a placeholder!?!"
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 28 2017 02:28 GMT
#646
On February 28 2017 10:47 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...


My co-worker said the same time. "What if the grand priest is actually the real god and Zeno acts as a placeholder!?!"

But zeno pretty nuch acted and presented himself as god in the future time line being able to erase that whole universe if hes jyst a place holder how much stronger can the grand priest be if hes the real god of all.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 28 2017 17:35 GMT
#647
On February 28 2017 11:28 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 10:47 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...


My co-worker said the same time. "What if the grand priest is actually the real god and Zeno acts as a placeholder!?!"

But zeno pretty nuch acted and presented himself as god in the future time line being able to erase that whole universe if hes jyst a place holder how much stronger can the grand priest be if hes the real god of all.


But he didn't erase the entire future universe, right? I'm still convinced of the Buu'ish personality.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2017 18:43 GMT
#648
On March 01 2017 02:35 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 11:28 Shock710 wrote:
On February 28 2017 10:47 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...


My co-worker said the same time. "What if the grand priest is actually the real god and Zeno acts as a placeholder!?!"

But zeno pretty nuch acted and presented himself as god in the future time line being able to erase that whole universe if hes jyst a place holder how much stronger can the grand priest be if hes the real god of all.


But he didn't erase the entire future universe, right? I'm still convinced of the Buu'ish personality.

As far as we know he did. All that was left was a pretty blue background.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 28 2017 18:44 GMT
#649
Zeno does seem to have an addiction to destroying everything though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 28 2017 18:49 GMT
#650
On March 01 2017 02:35 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 11:28 Shock710 wrote:
On February 28 2017 10:47 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
On February 27 2017 21:42 Razhil wrote:
I don't understand why nobody is questioning the fact that "Zeno has planned something". Zeno is childish and acts on impulse, it's totally not in his character to plan anything. I think the High Priest is the one really taking decisions (by manipulating Zeno somehow). Or maybe I'm overthinking Dragon Ball...


My co-worker said the same time. "What if the grand priest is actually the real god and Zeno acts as a placeholder!?!"

But zeno pretty nuch acted and presented himself as god in the future time line being able to erase that whole universe if hes jyst a place holder how much stronger can the grand priest be if hes the real god of all.


But he didn't erase the entire future universe, right? I'm still convinced of the Buu'ish personality.

I don't buy it. There was never any indication that he had a Buu'ish personality at all. In fact, we see him erase the future universe because he didn't like what he saw, simple as that. I don't think the show is trying to make us wonder who Zeno really is. Rather, I think the idea is that he's pretty childish and will act out on a whim, destroying whatever he doesn't like.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 28 2017 18:55 GMT
#651
Are paired universes destroyed together? I think it might be possible that pairs work together. Would make sense both as a way to make the arc shorter and cut out a pointless Hit-Goku rematch that would add nothing. And Vegeta-Cabba friendship.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 28 2017 18:57 GMT
#652
On March 01 2017 03:55 LegalLord wrote:
Are paired universes destroyed together? I think it might be possible that pairs work together. Would make sense both as a way to make the arc shorter and cut out a pointless Hit-Goku rematch that would add nothing. And Vegeta-Cabba friendship.

I want to say no, it was never indicated that if universe 6 or 7 loses, the rest is history.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 28 2017 18:58 GMT
#653
What makes me suspicious is that the universes that High Priest mentioned were pairs. Could be a coincidence but might not be.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2017 19:03 GMT
#654
On March 01 2017 03:58 LegalLord wrote:
What makes me suspicious is that the universes that High Priest mentioned were pairs. Could be a coincidence but might not be.

I think it's because since they are pairs, they would have similar starting conditions so to say, so if the development goes well, they'd be nearly equal in whatever the "mortal level" actually measures.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 28 2017 19:04 GMT
#655
On March 01 2017 04:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 03:58 LegalLord wrote:
What makes me suspicious is that the universes that High Priest mentioned were pairs. Could be a coincidence but might not be.

I think it's because since they are pairs, they would have similar starting conditions so to say, so if the development goes well, they'd be nearly equal in whatever the "mortal level" actually measures.

Maybe. But also it's further true that some universes were destroyed and all currently existing universes are pairs.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2017 19:09 GMT
#656
On March 01 2017 04:04 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 04:03 Elentos wrote:
On March 01 2017 03:58 LegalLord wrote:
What makes me suspicious is that the universes that High Priest mentioned were pairs. Could be a coincidence but might not be.

I think it's because since they are pairs, they would have similar starting conditions so to say, so if the development goes well, they'd be nearly equal in whatever the "mortal level" actually measures.

Maybe. But also it's further true that some universes were destroyed and all currently existing universes are pairs.

You know, I was considering earlier if there's a possibility that some of the current pairs weren't originally pairs until 6 Universes got wiped out by Zeno.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 28 2017 19:31 GMT
#657
I thought about that briefly - but they aren't just paired willy nilly, they also have shared histories of a sort. Like both 6 and 7 have Saiyans and an Earth.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
February 28 2017 19:46 GMT
#658
On March 01 2017 04:31 LegalLord wrote:
I thought about that briefly - but they aren't just paired willy nilly, they also have shared histories of a sort. Like both 6 and 7 have Saiyans and an Earth.

Mostly the consideration was "What if Zeno didn't destroy 3 pairs of Universes but some independent ones?".

Another interesting option, what if the Universes were originally triplets?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 28 2017 21:36 GMT
#659
Still not gonna be surprised when "Zeno's dad" or some shit shows up. Remember when this guy was the top of the pack?

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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 28 2017 21:37 GMT
#660
Turns out the "12 universes" are just one in a set of universe-sets and there's a lot of other universe-sets, each of which has a being even more important than Zeno.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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